If you are 50th percentile or below Face and Height, there is no ascension without roids

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If you are not clearly above average in either face or height, you MUST roid.

Say you are 5'8-5'9 and 3.5psl. With surgery you might get to 4.75 psl if you're lucky.

but deep down you know you're a genetic subhuman.

you will no way be NT enough to pull the girls that you could pull- And because your face is nothing special, women aren't going to just jump on your dick.

You're better off roiding hard for 2 years before surgery- this will increase your sense of entitlement and generally you'll start to feel better about yourself as a man. TRT and CBD oil are great for my mindmaxxing.

Then when you actually feel some entitlement and may have gotten a slay or two, Surgerymaxx to 4.75psl, and you will be more likely to capitalise on your newfound smv
 
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well how much did your slay count increase upon roiding?
 
well how much did your slay count increase upon roiding?
i didn't roid so far, just moderate dose TRT the past 5.5 months. and didn't lift properly. 0 slays since then.

much more IOIs though, and my mental health and wellbeing has improved a lot. I was literally an insane person when I started at the end of October last year.
 
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I’ve already got a good body just need the face to go with it
 
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exactly my situation. 5ft 9 and MTN. sucks having to compensate with gym.
 
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Only works if you have the body of a bodybuilder-lite and only if you aren’t really ugly.
 
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Only works if you have the body of a bodybuilder-lite and only if you aren’t really ugly.
My body’s a long way off it but I can slay with body game still
 
If you are not clearly above average in either face or height, you MUST roid.

Say you are 5'8-5'9 and 3.5psl. With surgery you might get to 4.75 psl if you're lucky.

but deep down you know you're a genetic subhuman.

you will no way be NT enough to pull the girls that you could pull- And because your face is nothing special, women aren't going to just jump on your dick.

You're better off roiding hard for 2 years before surgery- this will increase your sense of entitlement and generally you'll start to feel better about yourself as a man. TRT and CBD oil are great for my mindmaxxing.

Then when you actually feel some entitlement and may have gotten a slay or two, Surgerymaxx to 4.75psl, and you will be more likely to capitalise on your newfound smv
what about if your 6'1
 
I got on trenbolone and then tried deca for my next cycle. It fucks up your skin HARD. The only ascension I saw was with guys approaching me asking me what my workout was. I actually did worse with girls.
 
what about if your 6'1
Read my first post- then you are well above average height. Yes you can ascend with out roids providing you aren't 3psl or below facially
 
with roids you get trashy women mostly
 
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with roids you get trashy women mostly
well what can I tell you? as a man below avg face and height thats all you get in life

u are the dalit of society with 50th percentile face and height, you don't get what the brahmins get (good looking/tall guys)
 
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I got on trenbolone and then tried deca for my next cycle. It fucks up your skin HARD. The only ascension I saw was with guys approaching me asking me what my workout was. I actually did worse with girls.
i only plan to do high dose T.

What is your height PSL and race?
 
I am 19 years old, 5'8, and 6.5/10, I have absolutely no problem being in a relationship.
Generally speaking you just have to be taller than the girl, but you have to have a good face.
 
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I am 19 years old, 5'8, and 6.5/10, I have absolutely no problem being in a relationship.
Generally speaking you just have to be taller than the girl, but you have to have a good face.
yes your face is well above average, I'm not surprised

I'm 5'8 and if I had a 6.5 face and decent body, I wouldn't need to be on this site much.
 
I am 19 years old, 5'8, and 6.5/10, I have absolutely no problem being in a relationship.
Generally speaking you just have to be taller than the girl, but you have to have a good face.
You are right

Dont let this forum rot your mind like it did to me and many others
 
yes your face is well above average, I'm not surprised

I'm 5'8 and if I had a 6.5 face and decent body, I wouldn't need to be on this site much.
It's all about the face, when you like someone you like their face not their height, when you imagine someone in your head you think about their face not their height, when you take a selfie with someone it's the face etc etc. Well, I'm not telling you anything, but a lot of people on this site talk about 6ft, and I'm sorry about that.
 

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