if you are over 20 and haven't ascended, it's over:

The average "ascension" on here happens to those who weren't genuinely incel to begin with, just the chronically online.

The true incels have to go through many risky procedures just to re-roll the dice a second time. Most of them won't even make it out.

But the ones that do, they are truly ascended.
Is there some old lore going on here or what? Did @Atra genuinely claim he was incel?
 
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I will make a post about that but open is nose job, hair transplant, ramus implants and filler
woah mirin
 
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I will make a post about that but open is nose job, hair transplant, ramus implants and filler
And is it currently done?
 
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k imma text u later, are u good w ratings?
No, I won't even rate you.

I'm good with knowing what women like, I have experience and can help you without rating you.

What benefit do you get from hearing you are whatever rating and that you need 3 more mm to go up a rating lmao.
 
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Good job you’re wrong because I have ascended at 20 :lul::lul:
 
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Good job you’re wrong because I have ascended at 20 :lul::lul:
read the first line of the thread, not the clickbait title. I'm right, good for you though I'm happy you improved.
 
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read the first line of the thread, not the clickbait title. I'm right, good for you though I'm happy you improved.
Yeah I agree w what u said then and thanks man
 
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Bump.
Idk how people are disagreeing, imo you have until 22 to get all your firsts out of the way as there’s still a chance you find someone who hasn’t been touched as much.
I’d say from 23,24 is basically the “youth twilight” because when your 25, yes you’re “young” but it’s gonna be much harder to garner raw primal attraction especially from somone with not much of a past.
Why would you wait till your late 20s to ascend? Is your plan to slay as much as you can without a deep connection? Or to hope and find an 18 year old. By then women want to settle down and don’t have time for you to play catch up. Are you hoping to be an oofy doofy?
 
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i agree i would ask u to help me ascend but im ethnic so u prolly dk anything about how
 
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Imo I’d like to see you make a thread about raw primal attraction and teen love. An important phenomenon people seem conflicted about. I feel like you’d have a good take on it.
 
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Ok, not as over as the title says, but if you actually don't experience 1-2 years of feeling true physical desire from women before 25, you will never be happy with your youth.

I'm approaching the end of youth, 25, and know that after that age, life will never be the same. It might actually be different forever different after this summer, but at least I have this one last period of happiness and youth: my summer of 24 years old.

I can help you plan a few years path of ascension if you are still young, I have had it all even though I always wanted more (and still do), but I really have. But if you start at 20, you either dedicate all your waking hours to the ascension or you'll run out of time.

You have less time than you think, you really do. It fucking flew for me. I would be depressed for life if it wasn't for my good genetics, figured it out too late.

My last summer guys, my last summer. I want you guys to be as happy as I once was, fuck this brain of ours. Never waste time. Looksmaxxing is life before 25, figure the rest out after then.


TL;DR:
normie + ugly = could be happy.
ND + ugly = never will be enough from 25-death, you will lose hope.
ND + attractiveness before 25 = happiness forever, feeling proud of truly experiencing youth.
Would love your insights on my plan if you are done, I am trying to work from base then work my way to hardmaxxes. Let me know and I'll pm you. Mirin thread
 
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Bump.
Idk how people are disagreeing, imo you have until 22 to get all your firsts out of the way as there’s still a chance you find someone who hasn’t been touched as much.
I’d say from 23,24 is basically the “youth twilight” because when your 25, yes you’re “young” but it’s gonna be much harder to garner raw primal attraction especially from somone with not much of a past.
Why would you wait till your late 20s to ascend? Is your plan to slay as much as you can without a deep connection? Or to hope and find an 18 year old. By then women want to settle down and don’t have time for you to play catch up. Are you hoping to be an oofy doofy?
Well said.

I agree with everything you mentioned, we are on the same boat.

I believe they try to convince themselves that if they maintain their looks, they will be able to larp their way into slaying younger girls. Which you probably can, but it’s not the full picture. And no one feels fulfilled from this.
 
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Would love your insights on my plan if you are done, I am trying to work from base then work my way to hardmaxxes. Let me know and I'll pm you. Mirin thread
Pm me
 
It feels creepy to be desired purely sexually unless the girl is very hot.

I had this in my youth but still ended up here because I crave emotional connection + early 20s were nuked by covid
 
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It feels creepy to be desired purely sexually unless the girl is very hot.
Very true hahaha, I guess that’s how girls feel most of the time

I had this in my youth but still ended up here because I crave emotional connection + early 20s were nuked by covid
That’s fucking brutal bro, I’m sorry it hit you at such an important age. I was a bit younger than that and it wasn’t as bad, but your age was definitely the worst.
 
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Very true hahaha, I guess that’s how girls feel most of the time


That’s fucking brutal bro, I’m sorry it hit you at such an important age. I was a bit younger than that and it wasn’t as bad, but your age was definitely the worst.
I would not hesitate to make a deal with satan to relive 2016-2019 forever.
 
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Thanks for the good reply brother.



I agree with the parts not highlighted, disagree with the ones highlighted. Here's my point, I establish the cutoff at 25 because that's when the "studying part" is generally over, or will be over for my friends and I. We will all have finished university (degree and master's) by then, so everyone will have a job and limited free time. By this period, all the interactions start to be different, since everyone is focused in shaping their life (maybe getting a serious relationship, not partying anymore, focusing on their career).
The thing is, what you've described are more of lifestyle/class issues rather than age problems per se. I'm sure trust fund kids remain just as carefree and living that party lifestyle well into their 30s. Even without those inherent advantages, life is a lot about setup. If you have a plan, you can set your life up to be the way you want it to be in your late 20s/early 30s. First example that comes to mind - you can become a dj or go back to uni later.

Also people - friends, partners, allies and opps come and go, even true friends can be unavailable for years due to their life stuff. You can always hang out with younger people too.

I don't refer to youth as your looks, I will keep my looks for way longer than 25, but that doesn't matter IMO. You need the looks during your young years where you are care free and can do whatever the fuck you want. The end of youth happens when you shift your mindset from being able to do everything, to being older. It just happens at some point, I'm not really sure how to explain it so you get what I mean. Maybe it can be worded as "the novelty of things".
Yeah there's often that "been there done that" vibe you get where the emotional highs and lows aren't as pronounced but if you hadn't had an experience in your youth, it will be just as novel when you are older. And if you are experienced and the novelty of things wears off, there are positives in that as well.
Regarding being young and carefree and doing whatever the fuck you want, you can be carefree and do what you want when you are older as well, even more so because you have more resources. But the thing is, when you are older, you tend to get more responsible and strategic as well. Most young people have no understanding of how their actions compound over time and especially the long term consequences. When you are young you think you have all the time in the world so you squander it on bullshit.

Experiencing things when young is not the same as when you are older. There is something so magical about young love too. I look back at times when I would sneak out my house at night to go sit in a fucking park in the middle of winter at 1am in the morning, just to be freezing my ass off to be able to get a kiss from some girl I was seeing.
Yeah those things are beautiful and should be cherished.

It seems like stupid shit, and it might not be important to you at all, but I think some things should be experienced young. They have an extra spark. Maybe I'm just a nostalgic person, I really look back on my past years and smile with happiness.
It is important and I had a phase where I was really nostalgic about my teenage years and mourned that stage of my life that I will never be able to get back but after some time it past and I started to look ahead instead of what was in the past.

And lastly, about the larping part, you'd have to be honest at some point. I believe in finding a partner, I don't care about slaying, they'd have to meet your friends, family, etc.
The larping part is just for the initial mindless disqualification. Once an emotional bond is formed they are much more likely to accept the real age. Then the risk becomes losing trust because of the deception though but it is possible to navigate through that situation skillfully,
 
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The thing is, what you've described are more of lifestyle/class issues rather than age problems per se. I'm sure trust fund kids remain just as carefree and living that party lifestyle well into their 30s. Even without those inherent advantages, life is a lot about setup. If you have a plan, you can set your life up to be the way you want it to be in your late 20s/early 30s. First example that comes to mind - you can become a dj or go back to uni later.

Also people - friends, partners, allies and opps come and go, even true friends can be unavailable for years due to their life stuff. You can always hang out with younger people too.


Yeah there's often that "been there done that" vibe you get where the emotional highs and lows aren't as pronounced but if you hadn't had an experience in your youth, it will be just as novel when you are older. And if you are experienced and the novelty of things wears off, there are positives in that as well.
Regarding being young and carefree and doing whatever the fuck you want, you can be carefree and do what you want when you are older as well, even more so because you have more resources. But the thing is, when you are older, you tend to get more responsible and strategic as well. Most young people have no understanding of how their actions compound over time and especially the long term consequences. When you are young you think you have all the time in the world so you squander it on bullshit.


Yeah those things are beautiful and should be cherished.


It is important and I had a phase where I was really nostalgic about my teenage years and mourned that stage of my life that I will never be able to get back but after some time it past and I started to look ahead instead of what was in the past.


The larping part is just for the initial mindless disqualification. Once an emotional bond is formed they are much more likely to accept the real age. Then the risk becomes losing trust because of the deception though but it is possible to navigate through that situation skillfully,
I totally get your point.

It could just be a perspective issue I have, and I might end up growing into that way of thinking when I’m older.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, I appreciate it ✌🏻
 
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Being 24 years old myself I can tell you're somehow right, your brain gets fried by years of invisibility and you will always remember the years you lost during your prime years 😢
 
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Btw your thread motivated me to start roidcelling. Thanks OP!
 
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Never over if you are jewish
An Ultra Personal DIY Gay Jewish Wedding in the Hamptons Amagansett New York USA   Smashing
 
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Cope, im a 22 years old incel and I don’t care
 
Cope, im a 22 years old incel and I don’t care
I know you do care, and I’m sorry that you have not been able to find a girl yet.

But you look decent, are tall and still young. You should stop wasting your time being stupid here and do something about it.

I don’t know how you didn’t find this thread valuable, it was specially targeted to someone like you.
 
Ok, not as over as the title says, but if you actually don't experience 1-2 years of feeling true physical desire from women before 25, you will never be happy with your youth.

I'm approaching the end of youth, 25, and know that after that age, life will never be the same. It might actually be different forever different after this summer, but at least I have this one last period of happiness and youth: my summer of 24 years old.

I can help you plan a few years path of ascension if you are still young, I have had it all even though I always wanted more (and still do), but I really have. But if you start at 20, you either dedicate all your waking hours to the ascension or you'll run out of time.

You have less time than you think, you really do. It fucking flew for me. I would be depressed for life if it wasn't for my good genetics, figured it out too late.

My last summer guys, my last summer. I want you guys to be as happy as I once was, fuck this brain of ours. Never waste time. Looksmaxxing is life before 25, figure the rest out after then.


TL;DR:
normie + ugly = could be happy.
ND + ugly = never will be enough from 25-death, you will lose hope.
ND + attractiveness before 25 = happiness forever, feeling proud of truly experiencing youth.
ay man i need some help, idk what to do, like im confuesed or shit can i talk to you in dms?
 

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