If you are pro abortion then you are low iQ

[Spartacus1-]

I have yet to meet someone to convince me otherwise. Literally, no pro-abortion argument is solid and can be debunked in mere sentences.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

they don‘t feel much and have no conscious

 

[onnysk]

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Do you feel worse for the fetus or for the yet to be born incel, who could've been spared from decades of mental and physical abuse if only he'd been murdered in utero?

 

[Spartacus1-]

 

[Spartacus1-]

Do you feel worse for the fetus or for the yet to be born incel, who could've been spared from decades of mental and physical abuse if only he'd been murdered in utero?

Bhai do you predict the future? If not, then How do the fuck do you decide someone fate if they haven't even born yet?

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Bhai do you predict the future? If not, then How do the fuck do you decide someone fate if they haven't even born yet?

point is that he isn‘t a person yet

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Bhai do you predict the future? If not, then How do the fuck do you decide someone fate if they haven't even born yet?

Are you going to deny single women, poor women, ugly women, to abort? Do you want to drag them down and throw someone into this world without the necessary support system to become neurotypical or to have an adequate nutrition?

 

[Spartacus1-]

point is that he isn‘t a person yet

"Not a person” is a decidedly unscientific argument: it has nothing to do with science and everything to do with someone’s own moral or political philosophy, though that someone may not readily admit it. Like kkk interpret the existence of black people as lesser than humans essentially not a "person". But does that make them right? Absolutely not. Someone's definition of " person" is ultimately subjective.

 

[ShineBright]

point is that he isn‘t a person yet

Define when they officially become a person then, retard

 

[Spartacus1-]

Are you going to deny single women, poor women, ugly women, to abort? Do you want to drag them down and throw someone into this world without the necessary support system to become neurotypical or to have an adequate nutrition?

That's not an argument my bhai. If you don't want a child due to your circumstances then there are thousands of ways to prevent pregnancy. And to say only that environment affect one's development and future prospects is simply you being an ignoramus.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Are you going to deny single women, poor women, ugly women, to abort? Do you want to drag them down and throw someone into this world without the necessary support system to become neurotypical or to have an adequate nutrition?

he's a vegan jfl

 

[Deleted member 685]

Overrated ugly gook hapa foid with hammerhead ipd, disgusting

 

[Deleted member 7098]

"Not a person” is a decidedly unscientific argument: it has nothing to do with science and everything to do with someone’s own moral or political philosophy, though that someone may not readily admit it. Like kkk interpret the existence of black people as lesser than humans essentially not a "person". But does that make them right? Absolutely not. Someone's definition of " person" is ultimately subjective.

suffering is measurable, and if the happiness of the mother outweighs the pontential downsides of an abortion that‘s all that matters. since it reduces suffering in the world
the fetus can‘t suffer since it isn‘t conscious so it doesn‘t have to be taken into consideration

i believe in utilitarianism

 

[Pillarman]

I had the same thoughts, but since having a daughter is 50/50, now I'm pro-abortion too!

her body, her rules- likewise, my sperm, my rules

 

[Spartacus1-]

the happiness of the mother

You are starting to sound suspicious tbh. You are female right?
Plus you do realize that the potential downside of abortion is literally murder. doesn't that conflict with your Idea of utilitarianism? Or are you only utilitarian to achieve the satisfaction of providing the greatest benefits to females? You are either a cuck or a female yourself tbh.

 

[Vitruvian]

honestly, im pro abortion because no modern girl has the brain capacity to raise a child. they have no self-awareness

 

[ShineBright]

suffering is measurable, and if the happiness of the mother outweighs the pontential downsides of an abortion that‘s all that matters. since it reduces suffering in the world
the fetus can‘t suffer since it isn‘t conscious so it doesn‘t have to be taken into consideration

i believe in utilitarianism

So if you kill someone in their sleep, they aren't suffering because they aren't conscious & it's therefore moral? Pretty retarded take tbh

 

[JMax]

Either the foetus will be born incel (a life of misery and suffering), foid (undesirable), or normie.

 

[Spartacus1-]

Overrated ugly gook hapa foid with hammerhead ipd, disgusting

She's above average at best tbh.

 

[Spartacus1-]

Either the foetus will be born incel (a life of misery and suffering), foid (undesirable), or normie.

Or chad, or the person who will cure cancer, make a masterpiece in film, probably solve world hunger? Maybe create a cheap solution to looksmax unto chad? The possibilities are literally limitless.

 

[JMax]

Or chad, or the person who will cure cancer, make a masterpiece in film, probably solve world hunger? Maybe create a cheap solution to looksmax unto chad? The possibilities are literally limitless.

You are implying that curing cancer and solving world hunger are good things. All this would do is increase the world population, which is not necessarily a good thing. Arguably, it would make the world worse off.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

they don‘t feel much and have no conscious

Bad argument.

Firstly, they feel as early as 12 weeks which is where most abortions happen. And there are people with disorders where they don't feel pain, am I allowed to kill them?

2ndly, they have the ability to form consciousness so terminating them would be terminating the consciousness they would've formed. It's like killing a person in a coma.

 

[Spartacus1-]

You are implying that curing cancer and solving world hunger are good things. All this would do is increase the world population, which is not necessarily a good thing. Arguably, it would make the world worse off.

That's subjective. People who have cancer or are dying from hunger will have to disagree. And even still as I said the possibilities are limitless.

 

[TheChosenChad]

Life is worth less if not born in the right environment. Why force a woman who is not financially and mentally able to look after a kid.

 

[Spartacus1-]

Life is worth less if not born in the right environment. Why force a woman who is not financially and mentally able to look after a kid.

You are implying that mentally handicapped(somehow every woman is retarded by this argument) bitch wasn't riding some BWC and that kid magically popped up in her stomach. Please bring a more convincing argument.

 

[TheChosenChad]

You are implying that mentally handicapped(somehow every woman is retarded by this argument) bitch wasn't riding some BWC and that kid magically popped up in her stomach. Please bring a more convincing argument.

My brother your sperging answer my point and stop talking about big cocks.

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Let's be honest, there's a lot of people users here harbor homicidal thoughts for, I don't get this humanitarian approach. If anything, someone in the present will cure cancer or bring forth technological advances. Relying on luck to see if a foetus will cure cancer when he'll probably be yet another incel or an inept normie who'll leave the world worse off is dumb

 

[Deleted member 9837]

A child’s future is largely dictated on his youth and upbringing statistics show this

no Muh moral fagging will change this

 

[Spartacus1-]

My brother your sperging answer my point and stop talking about big cocks.

What the fuck is your point in the first place? You just brought an outlier trying to prove something completely dependent on variables. Some people have grown up in absolutely abysmal environments and are doing fine. A shity environment isn't a justification to usurp life.

 

[Spartacus1-]

Let's be honest, there's a lot of people users here harbor homicidal thoughts for, I don't get this humanitarian approach. If anything, someone in the present will cure cancer or bring forth technological advances. Relying on luck to see if a foetus will cure cancer when he'll probably be yet another incel or an inept normie who'll leave the world worse off Is dumb

You are just projecting at this point tbh. You cant cast your life experiences on other life experiences. Because you are not the same entity. Are you sure 100% that baby will grow up to be a socially inept incel? No? then please bring a valid argument.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

there are some children who will be deformed and will have absolutely no quality of life and will live in suffering and cause nothing but anguish for the parents for the short time they are alive. they will never contribute anything.

 

[Troika]

Who cares about pro life or pro choice when the verdict is already out on it. Complaining about abortion on an internet forum doesn't change its legal status. If you want to preserve life then don't let your partner have one. Then again, most of the people on here will never get a woman pregnant so it doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Spartacus1-]

there are some children who will be deformed and will have absolutely no quality of life and will live in suffering and cause nothing but anguish for the parents for the short time they are alive. they will never contribute anything.

You are not god to decide for their matter of death or life.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

You are not god to decide for their matter of death or life.

ah, right so this is a God poster. now i get it.

 

[Spartacus1-]

Who cares about pro life or pro choice when the verdict is already out on it. Complaining about abortion on an internet forum doesn't change its legal status. If you want to preserve life then don't let your partner have one. Then again, most of the people on here will never get a woman pregnant so it doesn't matter anyway.

Just because nothing will change doesn't mean I shouldn't vocalize my opinion. Nothing is set on iron. Everything is prone to change. Even the most totalitarian empires have fallen.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Are you going to deny single women, poor women, ugly women, to abort? Do you want to drag them down and throw someone into this world without the necessary support system to become neurotypical or to have an adequate nutrition?

Lol, first of all, its entirely a woman's choice to get pregnant, people should accept their consequences. You think there isn't a support system? Most governments of the world provide support to single mothers, you should know this.

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Lol, first of all, its entirely a woman's choice to get pregnant, people should accept their consequences. You think there isn't a support system? Most governments of the world provide support to single mothers, you should know this.

Are you seriously going to accept kids growing up without fathers? In this forum? What's all this humanitarian stuff?

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Are you seriously going to accept kids growing up without fathers? In this forum? What's all this humanitarian stuff?

Why do you think you have the right to decide whether someone should live or die without letting them choose? Would you like it if I decided to murder you based on arbitrary characteristics? Everyone's life is hard, no one's life is easy. Growing up without a father doesn't justify murdering someone. If that's the case then tell everyone who grew up without a father they were unworthy of life.

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Why do you think you have the right to decide whether someone should live or die without letting them choose? Would you like it if I decided to murder you based on arbitrary characteristics? Everyone's life is hard, no one's life is easy. Growing up without a father doesn't justify murdering someone. If that's the case then tell everyone who grew up without a father they were unworthy of life.

By not wanting to murder someone you are prolonging a cycle of psychological and physiological stigma that results in inceldom and mentally ill people. It doesn't make incels or people without fathers unworthy; it means that you could've spared them. It's not "playing God," there are thousands of people who deserve getting shot and they don't.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

By not wanting to murder someone you are prolonging a cycle of psychological and physiological stigma that results in inceldom and mentally ill people. It doesn't make incels or people without fathers unworthy; it means that you could've spared them. It's not "playing God," there are thousands of people who deserve getting shot and they don't.

Spare them? Ok, so if I see a homeless person on the street I'm justified in killing them because I'm sparing them from a bad life? Lets say hypothetically you were a homeless, incel, bottom of the barrel, by your logic I'd be doing you a huge favor and be justified and killing you because I deem you having a hard life and I'm doing you a mercy killing but you still value your own life. Everyone values their own life, its inherent, only suicidal people don't you can only make that argument for them.

 

[Deleted member 3177]

Spare them? Ok, so if I see a homeless person on the street I'm justified in killing them because I'm sparing them from a bad life? Lets say hypothetically you were a homeless, incel, bottom of the barrel, by your logic I'd be doing you a huge favor and be justified and killing you because I deem you having a hard life and I'm doing you a mercy killing but you still value your own life. Everyone values their own life, its inherent, only suicidal people don't you can only make that argument for them.

You are misinterpreting everything on a basic level because an adult is not the same as a foetus. The foetus has no impact on its environment or any attachment to this world. If "feeling pain" is the quota of humanity to not want to kill something, we already kill animals.

 

[Spartacus1-]

You are misinterpreting everything on a basic level because an adult is not the same as a foetus. The fetus has no impact on its environment or any attachment to this world. If "feeling pain" is the quota of humanity to not want to kill something, we already kill animals.

Oh ok, how about the quota of that fetus being human? Does that satisfy your requirement of who should live or not?

 

[Deleted member 7098]

So if you kill someone in their sleep, they aren't suffering because they aren't conscious & it's therefore moral? Pretty retarded take tbh

yes. if you kill one guy in his sleep, who doesn‘t have anyone else caring for him or wondering where he is after you killed him, and somehow some way it would eliminate suffering in the world by doing so, killing one in his sleep or a coma would be ok

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Oh ok, how about the quota of that fetus being human? Does that satisfy your requirement of who should live or not?

why aren‘t you vegan if you advocate for life? what separates animals from human if that is such a special category for you when it comes to life and death questions

 

[Spartacus1-]

why aren‘t you vegan if you advocate for life? what separates animals from human if that is such a special category for you when it comes to life and death questions

Who said that I'm not vegan? Plus comparing human life to an animal's one. Is simply retarded.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Who said that I'm not vegan? Plus comparing human life to an animal's one. Is simply retarded.

why, because some deity in the clouds told you so?

 

[Lux]

Imagine you find out your kids gonna be retarded. You might rethink the statement.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Fuck abortion unless its proven medically to be absolutely necessary

 

[ShineBright]

yes. if you kill one guy in his sleep, who doesn‘t have anyone else caring for him or wondering where he is after you killed him, and somehow some way it would eliminate suffering in the world by doing so, killing one in his sleep or a coma would be ok

So why not just end all suffering by killing the whole planet in one go? You sound like an impressionable college freshman who just took Eastern Philosophy 101 & now you're infatuated with Buddhism