IF YOU ARE UNDER 5'9 THERE IS NO HOPE

Lmao jfl at this coping shit. Girls want chad not tall retard. At 6 ft 1-2 height stops being significant for appeal. Ideal height is most definitely between 5 9 and 6 1 in terms of proportions, only outliers look like they are not complete degenerates at taller heights.

Most actors, tiktokers, musicians and athletes who girls thirst over are not above 6 ft 2. 90% of basketball players get mogged by 5 ft 9 soccer player cause they look degenerate and ugly. Face is king and if you are above 6 ft 1 you are most likely not attractive facially.

Obviously exceptions exist but stop coping with height for God's sake.
holy shit you are outright fucking delusional its fucking sad. leave your moms smelly sweaty basement and go to a club and see all the 6ft3 mtn-htn getting all the pussy while the 5ft10 manlets get absolutely zero play
 
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Oh you're one of these faggots? Lmao. I've been on this forum since 2020 bud but I got banned. You're just some faggot who thinks he knows something because he watched a tails or ww video. kys.
Dnr + keep coping about ugly couples loser
 
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height has nothing to do with what u said

it’s literally ur face and proportions

if u have short legs and big torso then u will always get called short even if u are 5’11

if u are ugly and tall u will not be acknowledged by anyone

I see a lot of short pretty boys and they always slay

not to mention they always have the best proportions (long legs and small waist)
girls reject pretty short guys because they are short. ive seen it happened first hand
 
holy shit you are outright fucking delusional its fucking sad. leave your moms smelly sweaty basement and go to a club and see all the 6ft3 mtn-htn getting all the pussy while the 5ft10 manlets get absolutely zero play
You are mentally retarded. Height is important for slays obviously cause it gets you attention but if you meet real quality girls who will not only fuck with you for one night but actually be in relationship height means literal shit as long as not manlet.
 
Lmao jfl at this coping shit. Girls want chad not tall retard. At 6 ft 1-2 height stops being significant for appeal. Ideal height is most definitely between 5 9 and 6 1 in terms of proportions, only outliers look like they are not complete degenerates at taller heights.

Most actors, tiktokers, musicians and athletes who girls thirst over are not above 6 ft 2. 90% of basketball players get mogged by 5 ft 9 soccer player cause they look degenerate and ugly. Face is king and if you are above 6 ft 1 you are most likely not attractive facially.

Obviously exceptions exist but stop coping with height for God's sake.
so then he's right, under 5 9 and it's over.
 
no lol i wish

least autistic incel, go outside blud
the cope is insane

956


pov: @PseudoMaxxer vs 6ft4 chad at the club guess which one the girls will swoon after lmao its so over
 
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Dnr + keep coping about ugly couples loser
Never ceases to amaze me when someone like you on this forum can seriously call someone else a loser.
Well I hope you get your mind right and abandon these silly beliefs.
 
You are mentally retarded. Height is important for slays obviously cause it gets you attention but if you meet real quality girls who will not only fuck with you for one night but actually be in relationship height means literal shit as long as not manlet.
"real quality girls" also have sexual attraction towards taller men its not shallow it is simply biological, they cant control it just like we have prefereances towards vaginas that are pink and small. A real quality girl will outright tell you she prefers 6ft4 chad instead of lying and settling with you until she finds someone better lmao
 
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Never ceases to amaze me when someone like you on this forum can seriously call someone else a loser.
Well I hope you get your mind right and abandon these silly beliefs.
There the truth I’ll never abandon them and i will probably mog your bloodline in like 2 years. Anyways keep coping about ugly couples the fact you even have to compare me to that guy is an insult
 
"real quality girls" also have sexual attraction towards taller men its not shallow it is simply biological, they cant control it just like we have prefereances towards vaginas that are pink and small. A real quality girl will outright tell you she prefers 6ft4 chad instead of lying and settling with you until she finds someone better lmao
You are delusional look at top 15 most valuable soccer players and categorize by height and gf. Short players pull better pussy simply because their face is better. Girls prefer face after height treshold. If you are 6 4 and look as good as 5 9 guy obviously you mog but if he looks significantly better he will slay you girl easily.
 
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There the truth I’ll never abandon them and i will probably mog your bloodline in like 2 years. Anyways keep coping about ugly couples the fact you even have to compare me to that guy is an insult
I genuinely feel sorry for you. Really I do. I hope you find peace in this world. Talking about 'mogging your bloodline" online? Only shows how hurt you really are.
 
I genuinely feel sorry for you. Really I do. I hope you find peace in this world. Talking about 'mogging your bloodline" online? Only shows how hurt you really are.
I unironically get more dopamine feeling superior to other men than i ever do with spending time with a girl. Yes my brain chemistry is fucked cause i found blackpill spaces at 13 and I truly don’t give a shit
 
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5ft10 is below average in young generation, go to college campus and bar everyone there is 6ft+ you will get fucking heightmogged. you are basically invisible to foids their all creaming their knickers over a 6ft4 lanklet
THIS
 
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You are delusional look at top 15 most valuable soccer players and categorize by height and gf. Short players pull better pussy simply because their face is better. Girls prefer face after height treshold. If you are 6 4 and look as good as 5 9 guy obviously you mog but if he looks significantly better he will slay you girl easily.
Just accept the fucking fact that you will never be desireable to any attractive women because all they want to think about is getting bent over and passionately fucked slowly and deeply by the hard throbbing cock of a 6ft4 man
 
Stfu retard
If you are under 5'9 there is simply no point in looksmaxxing. Chances are, if you hardmax to your maximum potential you can end up to be a mtn to htn facially. And that is best case. However, unless you have 100k to spend to LL and unless you wanna have difficulty walking for the rest of your life you cannot increase you height. That means you will always be mogged by a 6ft2+ mtn+. Any foid at a club or a bar will notice the 6ft2 guy before you. You are simply less imposing and less attractive because of your height. coupled with the fact that your frame will be smaller since frame is proportional to height. If you are under 5'9 it is simply over, you will never be chad and never have girls get wet at the thought of getting dicked down by you, instead they will be thinking about 6ft5 chad with wide as fuck shoulders.

You will literally never have the respect and aura that you would get as a tall man. People will take you less seriously and believe you are a less of man. Life is so cruel towards short men, it is basically treated as a disability.
 
You are delusional look at top 15 most valuable soccer players and categorize by height and gf. Short players pull better pussy simply because their face is better. Girls prefer face after height treshold. If you are 6 4 and look as good as 5 9 guy obviously you mog but if he looks significantly better he will slay you girl easily.
just be a multimillionaire football player theory
 
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Face is king and if you are above 6 ft 1 you are most likely not attractive facially.

Obviously exceptions exist but stop coping with height for God's sake.
Uh, you realise male runway models have to be 6'+ foot by default? Doesn't seem to limit agencies in their selection.

Also, the guys this forum fellates:
David Gandy 6'2-6'3.
Francisco Lachowski 6'3.
Henry Cavill 6'1.
Sean O'Pry 6'1.
Jordan Barett 6'2.
Jon Kortajarena 6'2.

Lots of exceptions, aren't there?

I don't debate face > height, but I heavily doubt there's negative correlation between these two. There might even be a positive one up to a certain point (like 6'4).
 
Uh, you realise male runway models have to be 6'+ foot by default? Doesn't seem to limit agencies in their selection.

Also, the guys this forum fellates:
David Gandy 6'2-6'3.
Francisco Lachowski 6'3.
Henry Cavill 6'1.
Sean O'Pry 6'1.
Jordan Barett 6'2.
Jon Kortajarena 6'2.

Lots of exceptions, aren't there?

I don't debate face > height, but I heavily doubt there's negative correlation between these two. There might even be a positive one up to a certain point (like 6'4).
Other than chico
U got all their heights wrong
 
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Uh, you realise male runway models have to be 6'+ foot by default? Doesn't seem to limit agencies in their selection.

Also, the guys this forum fellates:
David Gandy 6'2-6'3.
Francisco Lachowski 6'3.
Henry Cavill 6'1.
Sean O'Pry 6'1.
Jordan Barett 6'2.
Jon Kortajarena 6'2.

Lots of exceptions, aren't there?

I don't debate face > height, but I heavily doubt there's negative correlation between these two. There might even be a positive one up to a certain point (like 6'4).
You literally prove my point. 6 ft 1 to 6 ft 2 is ideal like I said in my first post. And these literally are exceptions. You take modeling which has 6ft+ as requirement and I will still show you that people who don't have to be 6ft+ mog them to death.

Pitt, Leo, Cavill, Efron, Depp, Bomer, Beckham, Beckford, Zayn, Gyllenhaal, O'Pry, Ronaldo, Somerhalder... You want me to go on? All of these are 6 1 and shorter and mog the fuck out of Barrett and Chico. Only actors who are talker than 6 2 I can think of who truly mog are Morrone and Hamsworth brothers. Even Kortajarena is withing my original criteria so don't be retarded. Where are all the 6 4 or 6 5 moggers this forum claims exist???
 
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just be a multimillionaire football player theory
Greycel without iq points lol. Tall soccer players have fame and clout as well, that is exactly why I said look at an even playing field, why do they pull ugly bitches??? Because status gets you only onlyfans whores who are most of the time mtb-htb at best and face is king.
 
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Greycel without iq points lol. Tall soccer players have fame and clout as well, why do they pull ugly bitches??? Because status gets you only onlyfans whores who are most of the time mtb-htb at best and face is king.
dont talk to me like that manlet
 
I don't debate face > height, but I heavily doubt there's negative correlation between these two. There might even be a positive one up to a certain point (like 6'4).
There 100% is negative correlation, your body will definitely look like utter subhuman if above 6ft in 99% of the cases. David Laid is an exception, as is Chris Bumstead but 99% of 6ft 3+ guys look so utterly subhuman with tiny frames and wide hips/narrow shoulders. There's a reason all except one mr olympia were 6ft and shorter, literally superior genetics.

Again, how do you explain that 90% of most sought after guys by girls are actors, singers and soccer players who happen to be 6 ft 1 and lower? There's literally no tall attractive actors, soccer players, basketball players, track athletes, etc. I'd even go as far as to say that your athletic ability becomes worse as you progress to 6 ft 3+, most agile and athletic people are for some reason shorter.

Heavyweight boxers all look sloppy. Ja is peak jump ability, all at 6 3, not some retard who is 6 6. Mbappe competes with 6-2 players as a 5ft 9-10 manlet. Gymnasts can't be tall. Tennis players don't benefit from height after 6 ft 2-3.

6 ft 3 and above is literally subhuman in every sport except track and strength based sports such as football.
 
dont talk to me like that manlet
I loterally prove all you "tall" incels incorrect with actual stats. Show me 50 most famous actors and their heights. Show me transfermarkt stats of soccer player stats. Tall people lose in all aspects of life except ons and basketball. Y'all are degenerate except a couple lucky ones who are destined moggers.
 
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if u atleast 170 cm its not over
 
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Even in track height is a disadvantage lol, Bolt was just an exceptional human being.


So to conclude, athletic ability gets worse as you get taller. 6 ft 1 is literally perfect height for people if you want to actually be attractive and superhuman jfl. Shit thread op.

Should have titled if you are over 6 ft 2 it is over lol.
 
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i just want to be 5'10 so i can fraud 6' with 3 inch shoes
 
6 ft 1 to 6 ft 2 is ideal like I said in my first post.
6'2-6'3 imo, but I don't see a point arguing over one literal inch. May also boil down to the fact I'm European and men here are taller.

But that argument
Again, how do you explain that 90% of most sought after guys by girls are actors, singers and soccer players who happen to be 6 ft 1 and lower?
isn't valid, as 90%+ of the global male population just happens to be 6'1 and below.
 
Count tall actors vs short. Coun tall athletes vs short. Tall meaning 6 ft 3+. Short never loses.
i thought you were talking about real short people not 6'2. jfl at grouping 5'7 manlets with +6'0 people
 
i thought you were talking about real short people not 6'2. jfl at grouping 5'7 manlets with +6'0 people
I never grouped 5 ft 7. I said 5 ft 9 to 6 ft 2. Ideal is 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 1, both 6 ft 2 and 5 ft 9 are stretching it. I'm just saying 6 ft 3+ is not as good as people.here portray it to be. It's only slightly better than 5 ft 8.
 
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I never grouped 5 ft 7. I said 5 ft 9 to 6 ft 2. Ideal is 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 1, both 6 ft 2 and 5 ft 9 are stretching it. I'm just saying 6 ft 3+ is not as good as people.here portray it to be. It's only slightly better than 5 ft 8.
i dont agree but i can see your point, didnt read your original post so i thought you were talking about real manlets :lul:
 
6'2-6'3 imo, but I don't see a point arguing over one literal inch. May also boil down to the fact I'm European and men here are taller.
Fair.
But that argument

isn't valid, as 90%+ of the global male population just happens to be 6'1 and below.
We are talking about US here, 6 ft 2+ is about 1/5 of population reportedly. We know even actors lie about height so I don't care about people lying when self reporting. Even if I give you 6ft+, as 1/3 of US population 80% of actors, musicians and famous athletes outside basketball are still under 6ft or just at 6ft.
 
if non nt and sub 6'0 u can either cope w face on tinder or just get nothing irl besides trannie slags.
 
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Under 6'1=Over. 5'9 is basically dwarfism
5ft9 is an invisible human whereas below that you are visible subhuman. bro i have this girl friend who is like 194 and she looked me weird when i told her i was short compared to her and said that i am tall JFL
 
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this forum debates height vs face 350 days out of the year without exception at least since i logged in last year. from time to time, amidst the endless pessimism and autism, i see some hint to the actual hopeful ( through any means necessary including hardmaxxing ) evolutionary truth - the fact that beyond social influences/peer pressure, some women are height queens, and others are face queens, hence why neither lankets/tall ogres or good looking and even normie manlets have died out ( gigaturbomanlets may indeed die alone but thats like a deformity/severe stunting after all, just fuck midgets or go monk mode i guess) . i would even argue that voice or dick or frame queens or brain/talent queens exist though perhaps rare and hard to gather empirical data since the "good genes package" is usually true after all. but some good genetics make up for otherwise subhuman traits once you find your niche and perhaps location and maxx out, assuming u wanna continue your genetic lineage or just ocassionaly get some with effort and some low inhib/not letting rejections get to your ego too much. yes, slaying is a whole other nuanced discussion, but the phrase "its over" always hints to inceldom, so maybe its a semantics issue i guess. and autism can actually be cured most of the time if not always, even genetic defects since birth may just be inherited deficiences etc and epigenetically modifiable in this life with a bit of luck and knowledge.
 
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Got 97 slays in 4 years in USA at 5”9 (before getting banned from dating apps). Are you saying I am very handsome? Because I don’t consider myself anything above HTN.

Also if you are 6ft+ with smaller bodycount in same timeframe, does it mean you are ugly?
 
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Count tall actors vs short. Coun tall athletes vs short. Tall meaning 6 ft 3+. Short never loses.
Yeah no shit you retarded fucking loser thats how a normal distribution works of course theres very few 6ft3 actors and athletes because its rare for a human to be that tall but still, keep on coping.
E1ztyibue6m81


you can still see women lust for a 6ft4 guy to cream in their wet tight pussies BUT MUH 6FT2 FRAME LOOKS bad ok have fun never being taken seriously
 
Yeah no shit you retarded fucking loser thats how a normal distribution works of course theres very few 6ft3 actors and athletes because its rare for a human to be that tall but still, keep on coping.
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you can still see women lust for a 6ft4 guy to cream in their wet tight pussies BUT MUH 6FT2 FRAME LOOKS bad ok have fun never being taken seriously
Even if what you say is true (spoiler it is not), your life is pointless and clearly shows your misery if your only goal is to impress women.

Like I said previously, you will have worse frame and athletic ability if taller than 6 ft 2, so you will pretty much be a filure in all the other aspects of life besides gettung ons with some whore who will eventually leave you for 5 ft 10 actor jfl So your theory about being 6 ft 4 is pointless as fuck.

Normal distribution has nothing to do with hot actors, because they are not average but exceptional, there are only 20 5 ft 10 guys women lust over in hollywood and exactly 0 6 ft 4+ guys. How come not a single 6 ft 5 got his spot in hollywood if it's all about height? Explain that dumbass. There's only one answer and it's that they all look degenerate lol.
 
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This is legit the dumbest shit I think i've ever read on this forum. I can't tell you how many times I've seen 5'3" guys at my schools I went to slaying. This is such utter fucking cope and an insult to any true outcast virgin such as myself who isn't le manlet.
No one cares about your spastic school filled with 14 year old dorks and sluts dating each other not to feel lonely. Doesn’t represent real dating as an adult at all. Moron.
 
No one cares about your spastic school filled with 14 year old dorks and sluts dating each other not to feel lonely. Doesn’t represent real dating as an adult at all. Moron.
I'm 18 lmao.
 
5ft9 is an invisible human whereas below that you are visible subhuman. bro i have this girl friend who is like 194 and she looked me weird when i told her i was short compared to her and said that i am tall JFL
Tales from mumbai
 
the thing with all these "if you're below 6'11 kys" kinda posts are that the ops are a bunch of ltns, otherwise they would've know that
face>>>>>>>>heightn no matter how tall you are unless you have short limbs.
 
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No it's because he has a good environment and has rizz and shit so he goes up to them and talks about sports and then they have sex. Also here's a pic of a legit diagnosed autist from my school slaying. Looks are cope and even NT can be cope to an extent. Environment and chance truly trumps all.
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low tier bait
 

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