If you aren't getting rejected everyday you are not incel

[Jason Voorhees]

If you aren't getting rejected every day by women dont call yourself an incel. Incel means involuntary celibate someone who is actually out there approaching, putting himself on the line, and getting shot down repeatedly. Sitting in your room doomscrolling blackpill threads on .org while never talking to a single girl isn't involuntary anything. Watching looks max edits, and crying about hypergamy from your bedroom doesn't make you an Incel. you're a hikikomori with an edgy victim label. There's a difference between the two.

Real rejection stings because it means you're in the game. Zero rejections usually means zero attempts. Actual incels are the ones cold approaching in the mall, getting ew looks, numbers that ghost, and brutal rejections on dating apps every single day. That pain is what forges the real blackpill. The rest of you are just tourists LARPing as victims while your "involuntary" celibacy is 100% self inflicted

 

[zudlife]

Can i say dnr his name is gold

 

[Gobnull]

water

 

[ascension]

Rejection doesn't have to be direct. If you leave the house, and no one bothers talking to you, cashiers or customer service workers ignore you, coworkers don't include you, and you can't get any female attention to save your life, that's enough of a hint that you are not wanted.

 

[iblamexyz]

why would you say this? if someone is sub3 in looks what do you think will happen bro?

do you really think it's going to okay and he'll actually get real dates out of pua?

water

Joined Feb 9, 2026

 

[ascension]

Can i say dnr his name is gold

Saying dnr to a gold-named user will dispatch a gang of thugs to your address immediately

 

[Gobnull]

Joined Feb 9, 2026

started posting at 21 or 22 feb

 

[iblamexyz]

Rejection doesn't have to be direct. If you leave the house, and no one bothers talking to you, cashiers or customer service workers ignore you, coworkers don't include you, and you can't get any female attention to save your life, that's enough of a hint that you are not wanted.

That being said, forgive me.I'm disappointed in Jason, to be honest.

A thread like this from a bluepill Looksmax user in 2026 sure, fuck they barely know Looks theory to begin with

but

Rejection doesn't have to be direct. If you leave the house, and no one bothers talking to you, cashiers or customer service workers ignore you, coworkers don't include you, and you can't get any female attention to save your life, that's enough of a hint that you are not wanted.

for someone on the forum who has been on here half a decade with over 85,000 posts, you're telling me he's making the same equivalent threads, which AREN'T satire, about the blue pill.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Rejection doesn't have to be direct. If you leave the house, and no one bothers talking to you, cashiers or customer service workers ignore you, coworkers don't include you, and you can't get any female attention to save your life, that's enough of a hint that you are not wanted.

That's still not rejection, that's just being a background NPC. Rejection means putting yourself on the line approaching, flirting, asking out. Passive stuff is just low social status + zero effort. If you're invisible in public, the fix isn't calling it rejection and coping harder. It's fixing your looks, NTness and actually approaching so you can get real, direct no. Until then, it's still voluntary isolation with extra steps.

 

[iblamexyz]

started posting at 21 or 22 feb

idc if you think this is water

your a bluepill normie

 

[Jason Voorhees]

That being said, forgive me.I'm disappointed in Jason, to be honest.

A thread like this from a bluepill Looksmax user in 2026 sure, fuck they barely know Looks theory to begin with

but

for someone on the forum who has been on here half a decade with over 85,000 posts, you're telling me he's making the same equivalent threads, which AREN'T satire, about the blue pill.

That's still not rejection, that's just being a background NPC. Rejection means putting yourself on the line approaching, flirting, asking out. Passive stuff is just low social status + zero effort. If you're invisible in public, the fix isn't calling it rejection and coping harder. It's fixing your looks, NTness and actually approaching so you can get real, direct no. Until then, it's still voluntary isolation with extra steps.

 

[iblamexyz]

That's still not rejection, that's just being a background NPC. Rejection means putting yourself on the line approaching, flirting, asking out. Passive stuff is just low social status + zero effort. If you're invisible in public, the fix isn't calling it rejection and coping harder. It's fixing your looks, NTness and actually approaching so you can get real, direct no. Until then, it's still voluntary isolation with extra steps.

Yeah, so I understand, in other words, you want users of this forum to go through a humiliation ritual just on the fact of MAYBE they will get a date.

the proof is in the pudding if you don't have a gf

Looks, height, ND/NT, dickpill

this is all WATER bhai, I am fkn newgen tik tokcel who is shocked by what you have said.

 

[ascension]

That's still not rejection, that's just being a background NPC. Rejection means putting yourself on the line approaching, flirting, asking out. Passive stuff is just low social status + zero effort. If you're invisible in public, the fix isn't calling it rejection and coping harder. It's fixing your looks, NTness and actually approaching so you can get real, direct no. Until then, it's still voluntary isolation with extra steps.

Background NPCs (normies) still have friends, social circles and the odd relationship.

The way you're treated indirectly for years and years can be a "real no" too

 

[Gobnull]

idc if you think this is water

your a bluepill normie

how did u even get to this conclusion
OP said being an incel means u do what u can to get dates/relationships and u fail. So celibate not by choice, u did what u could
i agreed
ur an idiot jfl

 

[iblamexyz]

how did u even get to this conclusion
OP said being an incel means u do what u can to get dates/relationships and u fail. So celibate not by choice, u did what u could
i agreed
ur an idiot jfl

Let's put our thinking caps on. Do you not think those people in the position who are on this forum or even on the other forum (.is) have tried those things?

idk if this ragebait atp

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yeah, so I understand, in other words, you want users of this forum to go through a humiliation ritual just on the fact of MAYBE they will get a date.

the proof is in the pudding if you don't have a gf

Looks, height, ND/NT, dickpill

this is all WATER bhai, I am fkn newgen tik tokcel who is shocked by what you have said.

Background NPCs (normies) still have friends, social circles and the odd relationship.

The way you're treated indirectly for years and years can be a "real no" too

Background NPCs still get included, and given chances because they put in basic social effort.

Years of being ignored isn't the same as years of direct fuck off after you've actually shot your shot. One is low value + zero action. The other is the real blackpill.

 

[iblamexyz]

Background NPCs still get included, and given chances because they put in basic social effort.

Years of being ignored isn't the same as years of direct fuck off after you've actually shot your shot. One is low value + zero action. The other is the real blackpill.

The conclusion I can think of is that maybe you are right, just because of your credibility on this site. Maybe you are correct, but on the other hand, this goes against completely not only the black pill, but looks theory in general.

 

[HundredManSlayer]

i’d rather sit inside than bare the pain of rejection personally

 

[orz]

Yeah, so I understand, in other words, you want users of this forum to go through a humiliation ritual just on the fact of MAYBE they will get a date.

the proof is in the pudding if you don't have a gf

Looks, height, ND/NT, dickpill

this is all WATER bhai, I am fkn newgen tik tokcel who is shocked by what you have said.

well i think the point is that labeling yourself as an incel is pointless and actually lowers your QOL significantly. most people on this site are probably not actually incel, but by labeling themselves as such they dig their own graves. this manifests in their lives through self inflicted social ostracization due to these extreme beliefs.

 

[Gobnull]

Let's put our thinking caps on. Do you not think those people in the position who are on this forum or even on the other forum (.is) have tried those things?

Having our thinking caps on
being an incel, u try, maybe not everyday

 

[iblamexyz]

i’d rather sit inside than bare the pain of rejection personally

Like quite literally, and I'm not against people approaching, if you look for indicators of interest

sure, go ahead. But if they're not there, why would you do that?

And if you know where you sit on the looks hierarchy, then you should have the self-conscious of knowing that maybe I shouldn't go speaking to every single person there is, because once I get rejected,

that's gonna feel more brutal, and that's gonna send me into a deeper rabbit hole of this philosophy, and it's gonna send me onto rotting onto the forums more, attaching myself to the philosophy more rather than escaping.

 

[iblamexyz]

Having our thinking caps on
being an incel, u try, maybe not everyday

do u not what an incel is bub

well i think the point is that labeling yourself as an incel is pointless and actually lowers your QOL significantly. most people on this site are probably not actually incel, but by labeling themselves as such they dig their own graves. this manifests in their lives through self inflicted social ostracization due to these extreme beliefs.

Possibly with new users because they're young, they watched one edit on TikTok and they think they all know it all, and that's it, it's over for them. Maybe. But realistically, for the majority of users who actually use the site, who are actually immersed in the philosophy, they know whether it's over or it is begun for them.

 

[HundredManSlayer]

Like quite literally, and I'm not against people approaching, if you look for indicators of interest

sure, go ahead. But if they're not there, why would you do that?

And if you know where you sit on the looks hierarchy, then you should have the self-conscious of knowing that maybe I shouldn't go speaking to every single person there is, because once I get rejected,

that's gonna feel more brutal, and that's gonna send me into a deeper rabbit hole of this philosophy, and it's gonna send me onto rotting onto the forums more, attaching myself to the philosophy more rather than escaping.

yeah exactly, subconsciously you know where you sit in the hierarchy so to speak

no amount of approaching will fix that issue

 

[iblamexyz]

yeah exactly, subconsciously you know where you sit in the hierarchy so to speak

no amount of approaching will fix that issue

this should be WATER

Jason should of NEVER made this thread wtf I am reading

 

[Sprinkles]

niggas come on forums after all that tho

 

[iblamexyz]

niggas come on forums after all that tho

quite litreally

 

[htbslayeer]

I would disagree, my friend never approached a girl in his life but is incel, 5’8 ltn, if he had to start he wouldn’t pull shi

Me myself I would say I’m more of a volcel, but that’s because I’m also a standardcel, at least high mtb for a relationship

 

[Jason Voorhees]

do u not what an incel is bub

Possibly with new users because they're young, they watched one edit on TikTok and they think they all know it all, and that's it, it's over for them. Maybe. But realistically, for the majority of users who actually use the site, who are actually immersed in the philosophy, they know whether it's over or it is begun for them.

niggas come on forums after all that tho

yeah exactly, subconsciously you know where you sit in the hierarchy so to speak

no amount of approaching will fix that issue

No, this doesn't go against the blackpill or looks theory it tests them properly.

how do you know your exact spot on the hierarchy without cold approaching? Theory from TikTok edits and forum ratings is just cope until you collect real data.

Take a 4/10 subhuman who "knows it's over." He avoids every girl because "no IOIs + brutal rejection will send me deeper into the rabbit hole." So he rots for 5 years, zero approaches, zero rejections, stays a virgin, and screams it's over harder.

Now the same guy who actually approaches 10 girls a week for a month: he gets 9-10 brutal "ew"/ignores/rejections. Yeah, it stings. But now he has proof his SMV is trash in the real world, not just theory. He can then decide to maxx harder gym, surgery, whatever or accept LDAR with actual evidence instead of fantasy.

Avoiding rejection doesn't protect you from the rabbit hole it keeps you in it forever as a tourist who never tested the pill he swears by. Real blackpilled men approach to confirm how fucked they are, then adapt or rot properly

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I would disagree, my friend never approached a girl in his life but is incel, 5’8 ltn, if he had to start he wouldn’t pull shi

Me myself I would say I’m more of a volcel, but that’s because I’m also a standardcel, at least high mtb for a relationship

No, this doesn't go against the blackpill or looks theory it tests them properly.

how do you know your exact spot on the hierarchy without cold approaching? Theory from TikTok edits and forum ratings is just cope until you collect real data.

Take a 4/10 subhuman who "knows it's over." He avoids every girl because "no IOIs + brutal rejection will send me deeper into the rabbit hole." So he rots for 5 years, zero approaches, zero rejections, stays a virgin, and screams it's over harder.

Now the same guy who actually approaches 10 girls a week for a month: he gets 9-10 brutal "ew"/ignores/rejections. Yeah, it stings. But now he has proof his SMV is trash in the real world, not just theory. He can then decide to maxx harder gym, surgery, whatever or accept LDAR with actual evidence instead of fantasy.

Avoiding rejection doesn't protect you from the rabbit hole it keeps you in it forever as a tourist who never tested the pill he swears by. Real blackpilled men approach to confirm how fucked they are, then adapt or rot properly

 

[Gobnull]

do u not what an incel is bub

yes a person who tries to get romance/relationships but fails. The emphasized word is involuntary

 

[PSLbbc]

Niggas be 15 and incel

 

[iblamexyz]

No, this doesn't go against the blackpill or looks theory it tests them properly.

how do you know your exact spot on the hierarchy without cold approaching? Theory from TikTok edits and forum ratings is just cope until you collect real data.

Take a 4/10 subhuman who "knows it's over." He avoids every girl because "no IOIs + brutal rejection will send me deeper into the rabbit hole." So he rots for 5 years, zero approaches, zero rejections, stays a virgin, and screams it's over harder.

Now the same guy who actually approaches 10 girls a week for a month: he gets 9-10 brutal "ew"/ignores/rejections. Yeah, it stings. But now he has proof his SMV is trash in the real world, not just theory. He can then decide to maxx harder gym, surgery, whatever or accept LDAR with actual evidence instead of fantasy.

Avoiding rejection doesn't protect you from the rabbit hole it keeps you in it forever as a tourist who never tested the pill he swears by. Real blackpilled men approach to confirm how fucked they are, then adapt or rot properly

But what makes the blackpill a popular philosophy isn't because some schizophrenic incel wrote about it years ago,

it's because the anecdotal experience matches up with people's livelihood already. Do you not think that people have already done this?

For the past 20 years, right, pickup culture has been viral, right? All of this game, all of this looksmaxing has always been very prevalent.
Different names, different labels, but has always stayed the same. Fact is the proof in the pudding for some users JFL

 

[iblamexyz]

Niggas be 15 and incel

Completely possible, by the way.

 

[Gobnull]

Niggas be 15 and incel

u can be an incel at 15 by definition. The day u start wanting romance and fail ur an incel

 

[PSLbbc]

Completely possible, by the way.

No nigga being khhv is normal at 15 and most 15 yo "incels" don't even approach

 

[iblamexyz]

u can be an incel at 15 by definition. The day u start wanting romance and fail ur an incel

okay mirin

forgive me for my past words

 

[iblamexyz]

No nigga being khhv is normal at 15 and most 15 yo "incels" don't even approach

u can be an incel at 15 by definition. The day u start wanting romance and fail ur an incel

 

[iblamexyz]

No nigga being khhv is normal at 15 and most 15 yo "incels" don't even approach

and trust me a lot people do try

 

[Gobnull]

okay mirin

forgive me for my past words

i'm sorry as well

 

[Jason Voorhees]

But what makes the blackpill a popular philosophy isn't because some schizophrenic incel wrote about it years ago,

it's because the anecdotal experience matches up with people's livelihood already. Do you not think that people have already done this?

For the past 20 years, right, pickup culture has been viral, right? All of this game, all of this looksmaxing has always been very prevalent.
Different names, different labels, but has always stayed the same. Fact is the proof in the pudding for some users JFL

People tried pickup for 20 years, but 95% of them were normies or mild subhumans who got some results and called it proof.

The true sub-5s who actually cold approached daily for months got destroyed and went blackpill that's why the philosophy exploded.

Anecdotal it worked for me from 6+ guys isn't data. Real proof is the thousands of invisible 3-4/10s who approached hundreds of times, got zero lays, and confirmed the looks hierarchy the hard way.

 

[PSLbbc]

and trust me a lot people do try

Constantly?

 

[HundredManSlayer]

how do you know your exact spot on the hierarchy without cold approaching? Theory from TikTok edits and forum ratings is just cope until you collect real data.

a lot figure it out by how they were treated in high school. no need for approaching at all.

i was bullied, ridiculed, laughed at, and physically abused so i kind of know where sit in the hierarchy. the high school hierarchy is just a smaller version of the real life hierarchy. i’ve ascended since then but i haven’t really gone outside due to those traumas, so i can understand your pov.

 

[PSLbbc]

u can be an incel at 15 by definition. The day u start wanting romance and fail ur an incel

In that case u can be an incel at 8

 

[htbslayeer]

Niggas be 15 and incel

Like bro did you even start developing?

 

[shandingo]

If you aren't getting rejected every day by women dont call yourself an incel. Incel means involuntary celibate someone who is actually out there approaching, putting himself on the line, and getting shot down repeatedly. Sitting in your room doomscrolling blackpill threads on .org while never talking to a single girl isn't involuntary anything. Watching looks max edits, and crying about hypergamy from your bedroom doesn't make you an Incel. you're a hikikomori with an edgy victim label. There's a difference between the two.

Real rejection stings because it means you're in the game. Zero rejections usually means zero attempts. Actual incels are the ones cold approaching in the mall, getting ew looks, numbers that ghost, and brutal rejections on dating apps every single day. That pain is what forges the real blackpill. The rest of you are just tourists LARPing as victims while your "involuntary" celibacy is 100% self inflicted

I don't need to try and become a premier league footballer to know I will never be one or join a pro boxing tournament to know if I am going to get knocked the fuck out. Why would I try , when anyone above double digit IQ can predict or intuitively know what is going to happen. Do you think if I am getting 0 dates on OLD then suddenly this is going to change if I drop game IRL. Male looks are much less subjective than females so if I am unattractive to most I am almost always unattractive to them all.

 

[Troo_]

nah not necessarily