If you believe in a Monotheistic God Then you ARE RETARDED

[Mainlander]

There is no Monotheistic God

its over

STOP THE COPE

 

[JasGews69x]

Why?

 

[PseudoMaxxer]

I believe in gandhy

 

[Mainlander]

Why?

Because we dont have a free will

With that every argument about muh its a test muh suffering is needed we can choose etc wrong

The whole bible is about moral

without free will there is no moral code

everything about heaven and hell doesnt make any sense

 

[JasGews69x]

Because we dont have a free will

Soo... The Universe came from nothing because you have limited choice?

Obviously we dont have free will since we're not a boundless perfect God who can do anything...

 

[Mainlander]

Soo... The Universe came from nothing because you have limited choice?

Obviously we dont have free will since we're not a boundless perfect God who can do anything...

Of course we dont have some kind of 100% absolute free will like a god might.

But even if we assume that we re placed in certain conditions and can freely choose within the limits of physics, biology, and our environment even then, we’re not truly free.

Even where you’ll look in the next three seconds is already determined. It only feels like a choice, but it's all causally set in motion beforehand

 

[JasGews69x]

But even if we assume that we re placed in certain conditions and can freely choose within the limits of physics, biology, and our environment even then, we’re not truly free.

How does this disprove the existence of the Monotheistic God though?

Hmm...you're only judged on what you do have control over.

All forms of freedom are exercised within some framework—whether it be laws of nature, SOYcial rules, or persoYnal limitations. The ability to choose a path, even from a limited set of options, reflects autonomy and choice. for example We may not choose where we are born, but we can choose how we respond to our circumstances, pursue goals, and act on our values.

Even where you’ll look in the next three seconds is already determined. It only feels like a choice, but it's all causally set in motion beforehand

If your action ( where you look) comes from your own internal motivations, attention, and reasoning, even if those have causes, that’s still a meaningful form of freedom. It’s your mind making the choice — not randomness, not external coercion.

 

[Mainlander]

How does this disprove the existence of the Monotheistic God though?

Hmm...you're only judged on what you do have control over.

All forms of freedom are exercised within some framework—whether it be laws of nature, SOYcial rules, or persoYnal limitations. The ability to choose a path, even from a limited set of options, reflects autonomy and choice. for example We may not choose where we are born, but we can choose how we respond to our circumstances, pursue goals, and act on our values.

If your action ( where you look) comes from your own internal motivations, attention, and reasoning, even if those have causes, that’s still a meaningful form of freedom. It’s your mind making the choice — not randomness, not external coercion.

I understand your point, but yore still assuming a kind of internal autonomy that doesnt actually exist under a truly deterministic view of reality



You say the action comes from your motivations, values, attention, and reasoning but where do those come from

They are the result of genetics, upbringing, experiences, neurobiology none of which you chose

Even your response to a situation is determined by prior causes you didnt control


So when you say we choose how to respond it feels like choice, but in reality, the way you respond is already dictated by who you are and who you are is not freely chosen

You couldn’t have acted differently unless the entire chain of prior events had been different


Even where you look in three seconds, or what memory comes to mind next, is part of a continuous causal chain

There is no moment of pure freedom oly the feeling of agency which itself is just another determined mental state


So ye s its your mind making the choice but your mind is just a result of everything that shaped you.

Youre not free in the way you think you are you're just experiencing the output of a program you didn’t write

 

[JasGews69x]

I understand your point, but yore still assuming a kind of internal autonomy that doesnt actually exist under a truly deterministic view of reality



You say the action comes from your motivations, values, attention, and reasoning but where do those come from

They are the result of genetics, upbringing, experiences, neurobiology none of which you chose

Even your response to a situation is determined by prior causes you didnt control


So when you say we choose how to respond it feels like choice, but in reality, the way you respond is already dictated by who you are and who you are is not freely chosen

You couldn’t have acted differently unless the entire chain of prior events had been different


Even where you look in three seconds, or what memory comes to mind next, is part of a continuous causal chain

There is no moment of pure freedom oly the feeling of agency which itself is just another determined mental state


So ye s its your mind making the choice but your mind is just a result of everything that shaped you.

Youre not free in the way you think you are you're just experiencing the output of a program you didn’t write

Ok since everything is just the result of prior causes and is an illusion i will stop responding