If you don't immediately get IOI's , is it over?

[Highrise]

If you meet a girl and she isn't giving you strong iois straight off the bat should you just not bother to pursue and take that as an indication that you're not visually stimulating enough to evoke a response in her. Why do I suspect that if she sees a chad, her eyes immediately light up and she acts super respectful and attentive

 

[Deleted member 7866]

no its also height, dick, frame, WHR/SHR ratios, status and money

 

[Deleted member 4430]

lineage

 

[Deleted member 7651]

If you have a dark basement and some handcuffs you can succed with girls tbh ( in clash royale)

 

[Highrise]

If you have a dark basement and some handcuffs you can succed with girls tbh ( in clash royale)

 

[ToursOverBoyo2020]

Yes, a girl can tell within 10 seconds if she's attracted to you or not. If she's not giving you any IOI's right off the bat it's over.

 

[Hozay]

pretty much, call it a day and go home

 

[Chad69]

no its also height, dick, frame, WHR/SHR ratios, status and money

 

[Deleted member 4645]

If she ain't grabbing you by the D when you first met, it's over.

 

[Chad69]

If you meet a girl and she isn't giving you strong iois straight off the bat should you just not bother to pursue and take that as an indication that you're not visually stimulating enough to evoke a response in her. Why do I suspect that if she sees a chad, her eyes immediately light up and she acts super respectful and attentive

I personally get insulted when I dont get an IOI tbh

 

[Highrise]

Yes, a girl can tell within 10 seconds if she's attracted to you or not. If she's not giving you any IOI's right off the bat it's over.

Srs or sarcasm?

 

[Chad69]

Srs or sarcasm?

Nah it takes less
There have been some studies
I think it takes a little bit less than a second

 

[ToursOverBoyo2020]

Srs or sarcasm?

srs

 

[ChoSeungHui]

 

[Highrise]

I personally get insulted when I dont get an IOI tbh

Exactly. If she doesn't look up off her phone when you walk past, she doesn't rate you. If she ain't making convos with you UNMPROMPTED she's not attracted to you and most likely doesn't respect you. Men and women will never be friends because of evolutionary pressures. At any point in time, one of the genders is dominating. Currently women are. Your entire worth to them is based off of your smv .In the workplace, expect to get treated like shit for not being chad and having your abilities overlooked. In a male dominated environment, this would hardly be a factor.

 

[Chad69]

Exactly. If she doesn't look up off her phone when you walk past, she doesn't rate you. If she ain't making convos with you UNMPROMPTED she's not attracted to you and most likely doesn't respect you. Men and women will never be friends because of evolutionary pressures. At any point in time, one of the genders is dominating. Currently women are. Your entire worth to them is based off of your smv .In the workplace, expect to get treated like shit for not being chad and having your abilities overlooked. In a male dominated environment, this would hardly be a factor.

Looks dont always matter in these situations
I personally think height is the cope but you unironically need height to even get spotted by a female

 

[Conspiracy]

yeah it might not be instantly they might not be looking at you properly and thinking about other shit (like the chad on tinder shes talking to) or whatever but if you are around them talking to them especially and they aren't acting like they would around chads you are subhuman.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

no its also height, dick, frame, WHR/SHR ratios, status and money

oh so now you agree with the dickpill

 

[Deleted member 7866]

oh so now you agree with the dickpill

it can matter, it doesn't that much tho

 

[Slayer]

No.

In high school I flirted with this one girl who was super cold to me in the beginning but once I stopped flirting, she came on to me really strong out of nowhere, giving me more attention than I ever gave her to begin with. It took me off guard and I never went further with her because I was already looking at other options by that point.

It can be hard to distinguish genuine disinterest from playing hard to get even if you're not an autist, and while girls do in fact approach, it can take the more introverted or socially anxious girls, like the one in my example, more time to warm up to you than the extroverted turbo party sluts.

This push-pull dynamic actually works on girls like this (it's one of the only aspects of "game" that I agree with), however if you've orbited her for a little bit, stopped, and she hasn't reciprocated after a month or two, it's time to move on.

 

[Highrise]

yeah it might not be instantly they might not be looking at you properly and thinking about other shit (like the chad on tinder shes talking to) or whatever but if you are around them talking to them especially and they aren't acting like they would around chads you are subhuman.

I worked at my job for 2 years around foids. Only when I started hitting the gym did they begin to initiate conversations with me unprompted and show interest in me personally. Before that I was invisible and not invited to any friendship circles. When I did join the circles, I was bullied , ignored, disrespected and constantly looked down upon.What does that say about my smv? I thought I was doing something wrong(non NT , intorverted) but maybe it was my looks that was the wrong. Can somebody do the analysis.

 

[Conspiracy]

I worked at my job for 2 years around foids. Only when I started hitting the gym did they begin to initiate conversations with me unprompted and shown interest in me personally. Before that I was invisible and not invited to any friendship circles. When I did join the circles, I was bullied , ignored, disrespected and constantly looked down upon.What does that say about my smv? I thought I was doing something wrong(non NT , intorverted) but maybe it was my looks that was the wrong. Can somebody do the analysis.

You were probably getting attractive enough for them to invite you out or whatever happened but there is a chance you were sperging out around them and acting low T and so you got shit on by the group. No one can give you a solid reason why without seeing your face and then seeing how you act around people.

I know personality is a meme but acting like a chad is important once you have looksmaxxed enough.

 

[Highrise]

You were probably getting attractive enough for them to invite you out or whatever happened but there is a chance you were sperging out around them and acting low T and so you got shit on by the group. No one can give you a solid reason why without seeing your face and then seeing how you act around people.

I know personality is a meme but acting like a chad is important once you have looksmaxxed enough

My behaviour was hella low T. I wasn't blackpilled at this time.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Takes less than a second for girls to decide if ur gl or not

It is hardwired in your Brian from brith

That's why you can tell if someone is good looking or something is incel

It's hardwired in your brain

 

[ratdick77]

I have gotten IOIs from girls and then when someone better looking, or more interesting/popular has taken their interest those guys get their attention.

Think about how you can be into a girl at a party and then forget about them when a better girl is talking to you. If she is giving another guy IOI's and you have a shot you could still compete.

But I mean if you are talking to her one on one at a party and she isn't activiley trying to keep your attention, or playing with her hair, or touching you ect then it's probably not worth it.

But also JFL at guys who think that if every girl doesn't stare at you and bend over in front of you in public that makes you subhuman.

I HAVE BEEN WITH GIRLS IN A PUBLIC SETTING AND THEY HAVE BEEN LIKE "WOW THAT GUY IS REALLY HOT, DON'T LOOK" AND THEY PROCEED TO AVOID EYE CONTACT WITH HIM.

They took one look and realized there was a hot guy in the room, but they aren't trying to oogle him. guys on here have self confidence issues and feel like they need to make sure girls are looking at them in public

 

[lasthope]

I have gotten IOIs from girls and then when someone better looking, or more interesting/popular has taken their interest those guys get their attention.

Think about how you can be into a girl at a party and then forget about them when a better girl is talking to you. If she is giving another guy IOI's and you have a shot you could still compete.

But I mean if you are talking to her one on one at a party and she isn't activiley trying to keep your attention, or playing with her hair, or touching you ect then it's probably not worth it.

But also JFL at guys who think that if every girl doesn't stare at you and bend over in front of you in public that makes you subhuman.

I HAVE BEEN WITH GIRLS IN A PUBLIC SETTING AND THEY HAVE BEEN LIKE "WOW THAT GUY IS REALLY HOT, DON'T LOOK" AND THEY PROCEED TO AVOID EYE CONTACT WITH HIM.

They took one look and realized there was a hot guy in the room, but they aren't trying to oogle him. guys on here have self confidence issues and feel like they need to make sure girls are looking at them in public

Thx for the lifefuel

 

[Ultramental]

i know a lot of stories of guys who didnt got iois from the girl they liked,even got rejected and in the end they managed to get her
But this proves that she isnt that attracted to you and its possible in the future to get cucked by her