If you don’t take the bulk to this point you’re not doing it right

[butterworld]

Don’t be a skinny twink, bulk for a bit cut and maintain a lean athletic physique.

 

[Deleted member 80562]

If you bulk at all you’re not doing it right

 

[butterworld]

If you bulk at all you’re not doing it right

Cope for ghandi

 

[Clark]

if I weight 81kg at 184cm and my bodyfat is 15% (slightly visible abs) should I bulk or cut?

 

[thereallegend]

Just put on 100 lbs

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Lean muscle is good for getting chicks, but I've seen plenty of evidence that they like men on bulks and I wouldn't have to constantly count calories to do it. This is my goal.

 

[Deleted member 83386]

Lean muscle is good for getting chicks, but I've seen plenty of evidence that they like men on bulks and I wouldn't have to constantly count calories to do it. This is my goal.

did you forget you have a face aswell

 

[JohnnyRamone]

did you forget you have a face aswell

As long as you're not fat, it won't effect your face significantly. Especially if you have good fat distribution. 15-20% body fat with a muscular base is fine for me.

 

[Deleted member 83386]

As long as you're not fat, it won't effect your face significantly. Especially if you have good fat distribution. 15-20% body fat with a muscular base is fine for me.

I mean the pic you sent is fat

 

[JohnnyRamone]

I mean the pic you sent is fat

What do you consider fat. He's probably between 18-20% body fat, which is the higher range of healthy.

 

[SoundnVision]

I mean the pic you sent is fat

Only fat on this mental asylum where everyone wants to be a starved twink. irl that's the type of body women like

 

[Deleted member 107111]

 

[JohnnyRamone]

I mean the pic you sent is fat

I came across this on Twitter.



Check the comments disagreeing with this lesbian. Women love it.

Only fat on this mental asylum where everyone wants to be a starved twink. irl that's the type of body women like

You’re right.

 

[Deleted member 88079]

cope
be lean skinny and athletic ur entire life

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Lean muscle is good for getting chicks, but I've seen plenty of evidence that they like men on bulks and I wouldn't have to constantly count calories to do it. This is my goal.

Thats fat

 

[Deleted member 42490]

I came across this on Twitter.



Check the comments disagreeing with this lesbian. Women love it.


You’re right.

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yea cuz you should totally follow what ugly features women say they like, remember women think bald is sexy to

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Thats fat

That’s your body dysmorphia talking.

yea cuz you should totally follow what ugly features women say they like, remember women think bald is sexy to

If you’re looksmaxxing to attract men, just be honest about it. It’s 2024. Most people won’t care if you’re gay.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

That’s your body dysmorphia talking.

look at his picture and look at his love handles hanging over his sweats, definitely not optimal. At that body fat your face is puffy and chubby to.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

look at his picture and look at his love handles hanging over his sweats, definitely not optimal. At that body fat your face is puffy and chubby to.

As long as you’re not obese, your face isn’t going to be significantly effected by it.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

as long as you’re not obese, your face isn’t going to be significantly effected by it.

Why are you even here go to Reddit or something bro with that cope, this guy is like 20% body fat 10-12% is optimal for facial aesthetics, and dropping that much body fat will have a HUGE impact on the face like massive.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

cope
be lean skinny and athletic ur entire life

No thanks. A lot of men don’t actually want to be twinks.

Mike Tyson in his prime? 220 lbs at 5’10? He must have been fat. I can’t even see his abs!

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Why are you even here go to Reddit or something bro with that cope, this guy is like 20% body fat 10-12% is optimal for facial aesthetics, and dropping that much body fat will have a HUGE impact on the face like massive.

Because I believe in self-improvement. I just don’t think men have to aspire to be a twink to get women and the women agree.

 

[ChimpBall]

I came across this on Twitter.



Check the comments disagreeing with this lesbian. Women love it.


You’re right.

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Honestly I'm pretty sure you could replace that picture with a dad bod and you would still have women flocking to disagree

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Because I believe in self-improvement. I just don’t think men have to aspire to be a twink to get women and the women agree.

no one said you have to be a twink, being lean, athletic, and having some muscle is what is promoted here.

JFL at believing what women say online. Women say they want a soy fatass because it makes them feel better about themselves, then they actually get piped by a lean athletic dude.

 

[SoundnVision]

Why are you even here go to Reddit or something bro with that cope, this guy is like 20% body fat 10-12% is optimal for facial aesthetics, and dropping that much body fat will have a HUGE impact on the face like massive.

You gotta remember this is a mental asylum.
Irl 15/20% is lean

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Honestly I'm pretty sure you could replace that picture with a dad bod and you would still have women flocking to disagree

This is what women mean when they say they like dad bods. Athletic men on a bulk or off season actors or athletes.

no one said you have to be a twink, being lean, athletic, and having some muscle is what is promoted here.

JFL at believing what women say online. Women say they want a soy fatass because it makes them feel better about themselves, then they actually get piped by a lean athletic dude.

Or an athletic guy on a bulk. A lot of people around here have body dysmorphia. Lol. I guarantee that a guy with this physique would have no problem attracting women.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

You gotta remember this is a mental asylum.
Irl 15/20% is lean

You cant even see one ab at 20%, 15% is the maximum tbh.

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Mike Tyson in his prime? 220 lbs at 5’10? He must have been fat. I can’t even see his abs!

This might look good to you but it doesn't mean its optimal from a looks max viewpoint. Mike Tyson is ugly compared to this guy.

Or an athletic guy on a bulk. A lot of people around here have body dysmorphia. Lol. I guarantee that a guy with this physique would have no problem attracting women.

Not saying he cant, but this is looksmax.org and being at that bodyfat is not maximizing your potential.

 

[New Poster]

This site will always be too obsessed with leanness

 

[JohnnyRamone]

You cant even see one ab at 20%, 15% is the maximum tbh.

This might look good to you but it doesn't mean its optimal from a looks max viewpoint. Mike Tyson is ugly compared to this guy.

Not saying he cant, but this is looksmax.org and being at that bodyfat is not maximizing your potential.

Mike Tyson is ugly in comparison, because that’s just who he is. It’s not about his body fat percentage. His face is just like that. That guy would look fine at 18-20% body fat too.

 

[piec]

I mean the pic you sent is fat

over for you bones if you dont mog at that bf

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Mike Tyson is ugly in comparison, because that’s just who he is. It’s not about his body fat percentage. His face is just like that. That guy would look fine at 18-20% body fat too.

the point is he looks better at a lower body fat

Fine is not maxxed

 

[ChimpBall]

This is what women mean when they say they like dad bods. Athletic men on a bulk or off season actors or athletes.

Yeah but the arguments women use for liking dad bods is usually LTR related, like if he's too lean and muscular with abs at the same time then it feels like he's ''judgemental/cocky/self obsessed'' or whatever, or that he's less comfortable to cuddle with. And we all know LTR attraction is for cucks, it's all about short term attraction. Like read this thread for example

 

[SoundnVision]

You cant even see one ab at 20%, 15% is the maximum tbh.

This might look good to you but it doesn't mean its optimal from a looks max viewpoint. Mike Tyson is ugly compared to this guy.

Not saying he cant, but this is looksmax.org and being at that bodyfat is not maximizing your potential.

The women you see with men irl never have abs.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

the point is he looks better at a lower body fat

Fine is not maxxed

I said fine, because it depends on a persons fat distribution.

Yeah but the arguments women use for liking dad bods is usually LTR related, like if he's too lean and muscular with abs at the same time then it feels like he's ''judgemental/cocky/self obsessed'' or whatever, or that he's less comfortable to cuddle with. And we all know LTR attraction is for cucks, it's all about short term attraction. Like read this thread for example

Most of the arguments that I’ve seen for women liking bulked men have been applicable for short and long term reaction. The Twitter post that I linked has a bunch of women telling men that look like that to DM them, sleep over, stay in their room etc.

The women you see with men irl never have abs.

Abs is for the male gaze. There are women that love them of course, but most don’t seem to care. Think back to High School? Weren’t athletes the biggest slayers? How many of them were actually shredded. Depending on their sport and their role, they were probably around 15% body fat. Maybe with slight abs definition. Face and height are more important of course, but as long as you have a good body, women will be attracted.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

The women you see with men irl never have abs.

Abs is for the male gaze. There are women that love them of course, but most don’t seem to care. Think back to High School? Weren’t athletes the biggest slayers? How many of them were actually shredded. Depending on their sport and their role, they were probably around 15% body fat. Maybe with slight abs definition. Face and height are more important of course, but as long as you have a good body, women will be attracted.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

The women you see with men irl never have abs.

yea because the average person is mediocre phisically I don't see your point, its not a prereq to get a girlfriend but that doesn't mean its optimal for your looks.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Abs is for the male gaze. There are women that love them of course, but most don’t seem to care. Think back to High School? Weren’t athletes the biggest slayers? How many of them were actually shredded. Depending on their sport and their role, they were probably around 15% body fat. Maybe with slight abs definition. Face and height are more important of course, but as long as you have a good body, women will be attracted.

Bro ive had women slide into my dms ever since I got to 12% that never happened before It changed my life. Would women still be attracted to me at 18% yea but my point is it takes way more effort.

Face is the most important and being 10-14% makes you look infinitely better in the face than 20% bodyfat.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Bro ive had women slide into my dms ever since I got to 12% that never happened before It changed my life. Would women still be attracted to me at 18% yea but my point is it takes way more effort.

Face is the most important and being 10-14% makes you look infinitely better in the face than 20% bodyfat.

We can angree to disagree then. If you have shit fat distribution, then you should probably cut more, but for most people… 15-20% is good. A bunch of women are saying this is their preference and it’s not just virtue signalling. The ideal body fat percentage is probably around 15%.

 

[SoundnVision]

yea because the average person is mediocre phisically I don't see your point, its not a prereq to get a girlfriend but that doesn't mean its optimal for your looks.

Clearly it's not otherwise every girl would be with a guy who starving themselves

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Clearly it's not otherwise every girl would be with a guy who starving themselves

being below 15% doesnt have to be starving yourself its just changing your diet.

The girls like that but they know its unrealistic because like only 10% of men are below 15 and muscular.

Thats like saying men date fat girls yea they do but they would not if they had a choice

 

[SoundnVision]

being below 15% doesnt have to be starving yourself its just changing your diet.

The girls like that but they know its unrealistic because like only 10% of men are below 15 and muscular.

Thats like saying men date fat girls yea they do but they would not if they had a choice

No, they don't like fat men they like normal guys between 15-25 percent with decent face and height. Being skinnier than that will do absolutely nothing for your life.
If you're not attractive at 15 percent your life will not change if you go below it.
And being below 15% bf and muscular 1 in 10 men? Not even 1 in 10 in a gym are that JFL it's more like 1/2 percent of men and most wo.en arnt even into it.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

No, they don't like fat men they like normal guys between 15-25 percent with decent face and height. Being skinnier than that will do absolutely nothing for your life.
If you're not attractive at 15 percent your life will not change if you go below it.
And being below 15% bf and muscular 1 in 10 men? Not even 1 in 10 in a gym are that JFL it's more like 1/2 percent of men and most wo.en arnt even into it.

Getting below 15% did do a lot for my life.

Since when was being lean a debated topic here the three things you hear here are jaw is law, lean is law, and hair is life because they are true.

Also anything over 18% body fat is fat

 

[SoundnVision]

Getting below 15% did do a lot for my life.

Since when was being lean a debated topic here the three things you hear here are jaw is law, lean is law, and hair is life because they are true.

Also anything over 18% body fat is fat

This is a mental asylum always remember that.
Go outside you see bald guys with women and you never see a guy with a gf ( even hot gf's ) that is ever ' lean Maxed ' . Unless it's one of those gym couples that spends they lifes in the gym.

 

[Deleted member 42490]

This is a mental asylum always remember that.
Go outside you see bald guys with women and you never see a guy with a gf ( even hot gf's ) that is ever ' lean Maxed ' . Unless it's one of those gym couples that spends they lifes in the gym.

ive leanmaxxed and ive had girls in my dms which never happened before and I attribute it solely to my lean face and body.

Like I said just because stuff happens doesn't mean its optimal, yea a bald dude could get a girlfriend but would he have more options if he had hair? Same thing with body fat.

Just go look into ratings and see the fat bloated face on there, imagine if they lost 10-20 pounds.

 

[butterworld]

being below 15% doesnt have to be starving yourself its just changing your diet.

The girls like that but they know its unrealistic because like only 10% of men are below 15 and muscular.

Thats like saying men date fat girls yea they do but they would not if they had a choice

10%? More like 1%

 

[JohnnyRamone]

being below 15% doesnt have to be starving yourself its just changing your diet.

The girls like that but they know its unrealistic because like only 10% of men are below 15 and muscular.

Thats like saying men date fat girls yea they do but they would not if they had a choice

It’s not like saying some men like fat girls, because this isn’t fat. It would be like saying they date curvy girls. Curvy the way it originally was meant. Like this.

Which would also be true. It’s all about staying in that healthy range. You could be 12%. You could be 18%.

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Bulkmaxxing is real.