If you get lower lid retraction, Do you have to get Infraorbital implants as well?

[basedred]

I’ve heard many times on this site that if you get lower lid retraction/almond eye surgery, that you must also get infraorbital implants. Is this true?

 

[Allornothing]

No. The whole point of soft tissue surgery is to prevent the need for implants.

 

[catastaire]

No. The whole point of soft tissue surgery is to prevent the need for implants.

Where did you hear this from? Taban and all of the best ocular plastic surgeons swear by infraorbital implants to go along with lower-eyelid retraction surgery.

 

[catastaire]

I’ve heard many times on this site that if you get lower lid retraction/almond eye surgery, that you must also get infraorbital implants. Is this true?

It pretty much has become industry standard today among ocular plastic surgeons to include IOR implants with lower-eyelid retraction surgeries. This is because the implant helps aid in anchoring the weight of the rest of your lower face/cheeks from pulling down on your lower eyelid and loosening it back to its original undesired position post-surgery like unsuccessful LER/Canthoplasty surgeries did decades ago.

 

[Allornothing]

Where did you hear this from? Taban and all of the best ocular plastic surgeons swear by infraorbital implants to go along with lower-eyelid retraction surgery.

Then why wouldn't you just get the implant by itself and save a ton of money? Don't act like eye area is affected by soft tissue that much because it isn't.

 

[basedred]

It pretty much has become industry standard today among ocular plastic surgeons to include IOR implants with lower-eyelid retraction surgeries. This is because the implant helps aid in anchoring the weight of the rest of your lower face/cheeks from pulling down on your lower eyelid and loosening it back to its original undesired position post-surgery like unsuccessful LER/Canthoplasty surgeries did decades ago.

How much does it cost to get both infraorbitals and eyelid surgery? What surgeons are good?

 

[catastaire]

Then why wouldn't you just get the implant by itself and save a ton of money? Don't act like eye area is affected by soft tissue that much because it isn't.

What do you mean why wouldn't you? You in fact can buy the custom implant from a specialist like Eppley and attempt to talk an ocular-plastic surgeon like Taban into possibly using that same implant for whatever surgery you want from him. But it is still left up to Taban's discretion.

And yes the eye area is indeed affected by soft tissue surgery . The before-and-after photos from Taban speak for themselves. It works so well it is literally the most popular operation talked about on this forum (and many others) when it comes to transforming the eye area.

Unfortunately in order to make it last permanently depending on the candidate you may need both IOR implant and OD for guaranteed results. Your statement seems full of cope.

 

[catastaire]

How much does it cost to get both infraorbitals and eyelid surgery? What surgeons are good?

I haven't been keeping up with this so I have no clue on what the latest is. But the last time I checked in the US you had Taban and Raymond Douglas who were highly recommend. I have no clue how much they cost. I believe to get the full package (OD included) expect something over $40K from Taban.

Better to just contact them for a consultation. I believe consultations are about $100 to $200 and I am not sure whether or not morphs are included.

 

[basedred]

I haven't been keeping up with this so I have no clue on what the latest is. But the last time I checked in the US you had Taban and Raymond Douglas who were highly recommend. I have no clue how much they cost. I believe to get the full package (OD included) expect something over $40K from Taban.

Better to just contact them for a consultation. I believe consultations are about $100 to $200 and I am not sure whether or not morphs are included.

40K??!! Holy shit

 

[bradpittshairline]

I haven't been keeping up with this so I have no clue on what the latest is. But the last time I checked in the US you had Taban and Raymond Douglas who were highly recommend. I have no clue how much they cost. I believe to get the full package (OD included) expect something over $40K from Taban.

Better to just contact them for a consultation. I believe consultations are about $100 to $200 and I am not sure whether or not morphs are included.

i heard taban is more marketing than skill and theres some italian surgeons who are way better

the surgery people mostly want here is almond eye surgery

 

[catastaire]

i heard taban is more marketing than skill and theres some italian surgeons who are way better

the surgery people mostly want here is almond eye surgery

I've also heard good things about Italian surgeons (I don't recall their names at the moment).

As far as Taban only being excellent at marketing but not having the skills to match, just go to his website and let the before and after photos speak for themselves. That is the only bonafide way to judge any plastic surgeon's work by. Shame the other US ocular-plastic surgeons (or US plastic surgeons in general really) still do not realize this and prefer to be lazy relying on referrals instead of showcasing their work as obsessively as Taban does. And then these same surgeons wonder how Taban is able to completely sew up the entire US ocular plastic surgery market instead of them. Oh well! Competition always rewards the diligent, never the dullard.

There are definitely some negative things I've heard about Taban but being a skill-less hack isn't one of them.

 

[catastaire]

Just as a heads up, be warned not to trust in loaded terms like "almond eye surgery" (even though Taban uses it lol) as you get deeper into this. "Almond eye(s)" means different things to different people and thus not all "almond eye surgeries" are destined to look the same. The way Taban uses it is simply as a description for a bundle of different things depending on the specific patient.

"Almond eyes" for me refers to Zayn Malik so Taban is perfect for me. Whereas for most others "almond eyes" refers to Elias De Poot which Taban (alone) would likely be awful for.

Much better to use standard terminology so you can boil right down to the specifics of what it is you are looking for such as "lower eyelid retraction surgery", "orbital decompression surgery", "upper blepharoplasty surgery", etc.

 

[bradpittshairline]

Just as a heads up, be warned not to trust in loaded terms like "almond eye surgery" (even though Taban uses it lol) as you get deeper into this. "Almond eye(s)" means different things to different people and thus not all "almond eye surgeries" are destined to look the same. The way Taban uses it is simply as a description for a bundle of different things depending on the specific patient.

"Almond eyes" for me refers to Zayn Malik so Taban is perfect for me. Whereas for most others "almond eyes" refers to Elias De Poot which Taban (alone) would likely be awful for.

Much better to use standard terminology so you can boil right down to the specifics of what it is you are looking for such as "lower eyelid retraction surgery", "orbital decompression surgery", "upper blepharoplasty surgery", etc.

yeah im hoping to save up and get my under eye hollowness issue fixed by him, i would go by what he sees fit, i also like giant implants recent work with supras and such

 

[basedred]

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