If you go to a reputed bimax surgeon in Europe excepted marketed guys like Rameri or Alfaro, how much can you save?

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I think because of marketing these guys have their supply demand ratios maxxed out so they charge more than they used to before instagram. Will going to a surgeon with same years of experience as these save considerable amonunt of money? I heard Rameri charges 15k but imagine if its only 7k with a unhyped doc
 
in france 4-6k is the norm
 
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sinn said:
avg normie ascension plan, will be near mandatory by 2030
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idc i got SFS i know i needed bimax before i found this site, im not a retard to get shitbox osesotcotomony
 
bump. need high IQ pricing info
 
Ramieri is only marketed in incel forums lol. The marketed ones, for real, are Alfaro and Raffaini. The other ones are basically unknown internationally unless you are very deep into the DJS niche.
 
I don’t think these prices in this thread are realistic unless insurance is paying.
 
Foreverbrad said:
I don’t think these prices in this thread are realistic unless insurance is paying.
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6k in france is out of pocket.

For french citizens who are covered by soxial security its $0.
 
slop slinger said:
6k in france is out of pocket.

For french citizens who are covered by soxial security its $0.
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I just read the jaw surgery Reddit they’re saying regular French surgeons are very conservative and most their patients come out look same
 
bradpittshairline said:
I just read the jaw surgery Reddit they’re saying regular French surgeons are very conservative and most their patients come out look same
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Plus - do they have all the nice-to-haves like preformed custom plates, custom cutting guides and 3D planning?
 
Foreverbrad said:
Plus - do they have all the nice-to-haves like preformed custom plates, custom cutting guides and 3D planning?
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I'd think not. I'll try to find some aesthetic bimax surgeons I cant really believe that theres 3 good surgeons in the whole of europe lol.
 
bradpittshairline said:
I just read the jaw surgery Reddit they’re saying regular French surgeons are very conservative and most their patients come out look same
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Ignore horseshit sweeping claims like that, it depends on the surgeon not the nationality of the surgeon and you will not learn a thing until you consult with them

Im not saying it will be easy to find one but that is what you will have to do if you want a bimax less than 6k.

If you need a 14mm advancement it wont make a difference if pagnoni does it or if rando ass spanish /french does it.

What is your criteria for an “aesthetic bimax surgeon”
 
bradpittshairline said:
I just read the jaw surgery Reddit they’re saying regular French surgeons are very conservative and most their patients come out look same
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This dude is French:

www.reddit.com

https://i.redd.it/lukgzdcfm38b1.jpg

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Iirc, it was like 4k euros (none of which were paid by OP). Jean-Christophe Lutz was the surgeon. The problem with French surgeons is that a lot of them do not cater to health tourists the way surgeons in other countries do, and the ones who do are not charging French prices. There was one center in Lyon I messaged like 4 times and they never responded. I was in Lyon at the time and messaged in French, but mentioned that I was from US.
 
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longjohnmong said:
This dude is French:

www.reddit.com

https://i.redd.it/lukgzdcfm38b1.jpg

www.reddit.com www.reddit.com

Iirc, it was like 4k euros (none of which were paid by OP). Jean-Christophe Lutz was the surgeon. The problem with French surgeons is that a lot of them do not cater to health tourists the way surgeons in other countries do, and the ones who do are not charging French prices. There was one center in Lyon I messaged like 4 times and they never responded. I was in Lyon at the time and messaged in French, but mentioned that I was from US.
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i guess u will need a french friend for help here
 
slop slinger said:
Ignore horseshit sweeping claims like that, it depends on the surgeon not the nationality of the surgeon and you will not learn a thing until you consult with them

Im not saying it will be easy to find one but that is what you will have to do if you want a bimax less than 6k.

If you need a 14mm advancement it wont make a difference if pagnoni does it or if rando ass spanish /french does it.

What is your criteria for an “aesthetic bimax surgeon”
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14mm jfl nah i dont need more than 4mm
 
bradpittshairline said:
How much is it and is the doc ethical
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€7k for bimax + genio. That's pretty much the going rate in Istanbul. Another doc quoted me €6800 and another €11k but it included ortho treatment. There are people complaining on Turkish jaw surgery facebook group that he's too expensive, to give you an idea.

And, yeah, I like him. Impossible to know what he's truly like, but I'm pretty suspicious of people, and he strikes me as a good guy. Like, he originally told me genio was an additional €2k and then only added €1k for it. He also originally told me bimax would have no aesthetic benefit for me, so he wasn't pushing me to get it, although he agreed that I was recessed when he saw me in person.
 
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