If your base is bad

[Deleted member 17578]

No looksmaxxing will save you. Ill be stuck at max HTN which is not enough to be approached or even get ioi.

As htn if i want a cute girlfriend htb looksmatch i need to become high status multi millionaire from scratch. From 0.

Its insanely hard and brutal ngl. Just become millionaire high status bro.

Over

 

[the BULL]

You Need hair.

 

[Deleted member 17723]

i need LL and trimax might as well just rope

 

[aBetterMii]

Life as sub chadlite is nightmare mode

 

[thereallegend]

Just settle with a chubby LTB

 

[Br0sk1]

I have the same problem. Even leanmaxxing didn't save me (was at lower body fat in fall 2021):

Forever a low appeal HTN (at best).

I think brutal hardmaxxing (orbital box and other procedures) to reach Chadlite is also out of the question due to cost, uncertainty as to whether the results would even look good and the fact that I'm getting old, so I'd be 37 or something by the time all the procedures were completed possibly.

 

[Incellectually_Shy]

Its insanely hard and brutal ngl.

KHHV:

 

[the BULL]

I have the same problem. Even leanmaxxing didn't save me (was at lower body fat in fall 2021):

View attachment 1711806

Forever a low appeal HTN (at best).

I think brutal hardmaxxing (orbital box and other procedures) to reach Chadlite is also out of the question due to cost, uncertainty as to whether the results would even look good and the fact that I'm getting old, so I'd be 37 or something by the time all the procedures were completed possibly.

Looks good. Just go out more and approach if girls don't come to you

 

[Deleted member 17578]

I have the same problem. Even leanmaxxing didn't save me (was at lower body fat in fall 2021):

View attachment 1711806

Forever a low appeal HTN (at best).

I think brutal hardmaxxing (orbital box and other procedures) to reach Chadlite is also out of the question due to cost, uncertainty as to whether the results would even look good and the fact that I'm getting old, so I'd be 37 or something by the time all the procedures were completed possibly.

Exactly this fucking problem man. I have no real failos and when i am softmaxxed, lean, no skin issues etc. ill be a HTN AT BEST.

What does htn mean?
- almost no matches on OLD. The matches you do get are unresponsive. So basically OLD=useless.

So what about clubbing, festivals, parties, socialgame?

U can expect 0ioi from girls u like and get shot down when you approach. You get some attention from girls you find unattractive, no point.

So whats fucking next?

As htn softmaxxed do you just go mgtow? Do you get with a becky you find unattractive?

Fuck i hate socializing, dating when you arent privileged

 

[Br0sk1]

Exactly this fucking problem man. I have no real failos and when i am softmaxxed, lean, no skin issues etc. ill be a HTN AT BEST.

What does htn mean?
- almost no matches on OLD. The matches you do get are unresponsive. So basically OLD=useless.

So what about clubbing, festivals, parties, socialgame?

U can expect 0ioi from girls u like and get shot down when you approach. You get some attention from girls you find unattractive, no point.

So whats fucking next?

As htn softmaxxed do you just go mgtow? Do you get with a becky you find unattractive?

Fuck i hate socializing, dating when you arent privileged

I think go with a Becky if you have the option. I think not being content with a slim Becky makes one a bit of a standardscel IMO.

I'm personally content with a slim LTB+ for LTR but it feels like pulling teeth to even get a woman like this on a date from OLD.

I also haven't been to a nightclub in 2019 and I'm not sure they're up and running yet where I live.

If you want to shoot for the stars and get HTBs and up, the only thing left is to have pics where you look hyper NT. This sub-Chadlite used in a Tinder experiment shows it can be done: https://looksmax.org/threads/99-lik...this-guy-jfl-if-youre-not-a-goofychad.453550/

... but that's much easier said than done. Most people don't have access to the ideal locations, clothing and friends to be able to take these sorts of hyper NT pics. Then there's the question of whether your brain chemistry will allow you to pull off this ideal body language and series of facial expressions.

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I have the same problem. Even leanmaxxing didn't save me (was at lower body fat in fall 2021):

View attachment 1711806

Forever a low appeal HTN (at best).

I think brutal hardmaxxing (orbital box and other procedures) to reach Chadlite is also out of the question due to cost, uncertainty as to whether the results would even look good and the fact that I'm getting old, so I'd be 37 or something by the time all the procedures were completed possibly.

Are you pakistani ?

 

[Erik-Jón]

No looksmaxxing will save you. Ill be stuck at max HTN which is not enough to be approached or even get ioi.

As htn if i want a cute girlfriend htb looksmatch i need to become high status multi millionaire from scratch. From 0.

Its insanely hard and brutal ngl. Just become millionaire high status bro.

Over

How do you figure out if you have a incel base

 

[Br0sk1]

Are you pakistani ?

JFL no.

 

[Deleted member 8365]

JFL no.

Indian ?

 

[Br0sk1]

Indian ?

No. Here are my 23andme results:

23andme results thread

Hey, just thought it'd be good to start a thread for people's 23and me results. Feel free to post your own. Here are some of mine. I'm predominantly of British Isles ancestry with just enough Amerindian in me to look Ethnik.

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 8365]

No. Here are my 23andme results:

23andme results thread

Hey, just thought it'd be good to start a thread for people's 23and me results. Feel free to post your own. Here are some of mine. I'm predominantly of British Isles ancestry with just enough Amerindian in me to look Ethnik.

looksmax.org

You are the most ethnic looking white guy ever, I'm ethnic and white mog u to JUPITER

 

[BoneDensity]

So whats fucking next?

LDAR

 

[the BULL]

OP Is nw3 thinking about softmaxxing
You Need ht in Turkey if you want prime girls

I think go with a Becky if you have the option. I think not being content with a slim Becky makes one a bit of a standardscel IMO.

I'm personally content with a slim LTB+ for LTR but it feels like pulling teeth to even get a woman like this on a date from OLD.

I also haven't been to a nightclub in 2019 and I'm not sure they're up and running yet where I live.

If you want to shoot for the stars and get HTBs and up, the only thing left is to have pics where you look hyper NT. This sub-Chadlite used in a Tinder experiment shows it can be done: https://looksmax.org/threads/99-lik...this-guy-jfl-if-youre-not-a-goofychad.453550/

... but that's much easier said than done. Most people don't have access to the ideal locations, clothing and friends to be able to take these sorts of hyper NT pics. Then there's the question of whether your brain chemistry will allow you to pull off this ideal body language and series of facial expressions.

Clubs are infinitely Better in term of success rate and quality of girls you can pull. You don't have the pheno or incredibile muscles to succeed on online dating so you would waste only time relying on that. If you can't pull in clubs It's over

 

[Deleted member 3041]

No looksmaxxing will save you. Ill be stuck at max HTN which is not enough to be approached or even get ioi.

As htn if i want a cute girlfriend htb looksmatch i need to become high status multi millionaire from scratch. From 0.

Its insanely hard and brutal ngl. Just become millionaire high status bro.

Over

its not true im htn and i get appouched sometimes in clubs

 

[Deleted member 17578]

its not true im htn and i get appouched sometimes in clubs

What's sometimes? I get approached ~once every ~5 times I go clubbing/partying. Usually I am not interested in the girl cuz I mog her brutally.

I was approached by a slim becky 2 years ago at a festival and we ended up fucking. That is my only club/party/festival slay ever.

 

[Deleted member 3041]

What's sometimes? I get approached ~once every ~5 times I go clubbing/partying. Usually I am not interested in the girl cuz I mog her brutally.

I was approached by a slim becky 2 years ago at a festival and we ended up fucking. That is my only club/party/festival slay ever.

one time i go to club i get approached and kissed 3 times in the one nigth

 

[chigoha]

yeh i might go ER if i can't ascend to 5 PSL +

 

[Deleted member 17578]

one time i go to club i get approached and kissed 3 times in the one nigth

over for ur chadgenes

 

[Deleted member 3041]

and get catcalled by blackgirls but its not a good thing

 

[Deleted member 3041]

over for ur chadgenes

but only one girl is gl the other its not that good one is milf

 

[Deleted member 3041]

over for ur chadgenes

im not chad im just lucky

 

[Deleted member 17578]

You Need hair.

my 6'5 normie-looking house-mate but with nw0 hairline slayed another chick today and has another one lined up from tinder.

Meanwhile I haven't had sex or even kissed since early January (truecel-tier).

I truly think mgtow is the only way if you have no appeal, atleast till you get famous/rich and get some appeal from that.

Trying to date, kiss, have sex as a normie-htn tier male is like smashing ur head against a wall and hoping the wall breaks before your head does. It's making me depressed asf, time to throw in the towel.

 

[Br0sk1]

my 6'5 normie-looking house-mate but with nw0 hairline slayed another chick today and has another one lined up from tinder.

Meanwhile I haven't had sex or even kissed since early January (truecel-tier).

I truly think mgtow is the only way if you have no appeal, atleast till you get famous/rich and get some appeal from that.

Trying to date, kiss, have sex as a normie-htn tier male is like smashing ur head against a wall and hoping the wall breaks before your head does. It's making me depressed asf, time to throw in the towel.

What does this friend of yours do to succeed at online? Might be worth looking into. His height is going to be irrelevant there more or less, I would imagine, so he's probably doing something else to generate appeal that compensates for (relatively) poor intrinsic looks.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

What does this friend of yours do to succeed at online? Might be worth looking into. His height is going to be irrelevant there more or less, I would imagine, so he's probably doing something else to generate appeal that compensates for (relatively) poor intrinsic looks.

He has his height in his bio and in 2 pics he heightmogs his friends.

 

[Br0sk1]

He has his height in his bio and in 2 pics he heightmogs his friends.

Fair enough. I just thought that the consensus was that this sort of thing generally doesn't help much.

I have a pic on Tinder where I'm towering one guy but not the other:

... and have my height listed (only 6'2" though). Doesn't seem to be doing much for me.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Fair enough. I just thought that the consensus was that this sort of thing generally doesn't help much.

I have a pic on Tinder where I'm towering one guy but not the other:

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... and have my height listed (only 6'2" though). Doesn't seem to be doing much for me.

He also has his instagram linked and gets added on there by tinderfoids who sometimes end up messaging him, reacting to his posts, etc.

Instagram is prob key to slaying in general nowadays. Even in clubs and at parties I strike up convo with girls and they ask me for my instagram. Which I don't give cuz it has incel-stats (<200 followers, not enough pics, stories) so I exchange numbers instead but that's incel-vibe and gets me rejected.

 

[Br0sk1]

He also has his instagram linked and gets added on there by tinderfoids who sometimes end up messaging him, reacting to his posts, etc.

That's absolutely nuts if he's not particularly GL. I think we must be doing something horribly wrong tbh.

I doubt it's just the 6'5" height.

 

[the BULL]

Fair enough. I just thought that the consensus was that this sort of thing generally doesn't help much.

I have a pic on Tinder where I'm towering one guy but not the other:

View attachment 1714053

... and have my height listed (only 6'2" though). Doesn't seem to be doing much for me.

Some ppl were Just not meant to win. NT pics, smiling, heightmog, still not enough.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Exactly this fucking problem man. I have no real failos and when i am softmaxxed, lean, no skin issues etc. ill be a HTN AT BEST.

What does htn mean?
- almost no matches on OLD. The matches you do get are unresponsive. So basically OLD=useless.

So what about clubbing, festivals, parties, socialgame?

U can expect 0ioi from girls u like and get shot down when you approach. You get some attention from girls you find unattractive, no point.

So whats fucking next?

As htn softmaxxed do you just go mgtow? Do you get with a becky you find unattractive?

Fuck i hate socializing, dating when you arent privileged

A small percentage of men have monopolised the entire dating market. Normie can only get lucky through social circle for an LTR, but all of the relationships will end prematurely. The girl will lose interest and eventually monkey-branch to a better-looking / higher-status man.

 

[Acee]

Syo.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

A small percentage of men have monopolised the entire dating market. Normie can only get lucky through social circle for an LTR, but all of the relationships will end prematurely. The girl will lose interest and eventually monkey-branch to a better-looking / higher-status man.

It's a mog or be mogged world

 

[Acee]

It's a mog or be mogged world

Battle royale type shit innit.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

you will defo get IOIs irl as a HTN, not constantly every single day but you should get a couple on average each time you go out to say a busy nightlife environment

If you rate yourself as a HTN and you never get any IOIs irl then you are overrating yourself im sorry boyo

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Battle royale type shit innit.

In societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'... Sexual liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.​

 

[Deleted member 17578]

you will defo get IOIs irl as a HTN, not constantly every single day but you should get a couple on average each time you go out to say a busy nightlife environment

If you rate yourself as a HTN and you never get any IOIs irl then you are overrating yourself im sorry boyo

over for my normie-ass.

 

[Acee]

In societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'... Sexual liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.​

Syo syo syo...what will be the end with you.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Syo syo syo...what will be the end with you.

Not looking too good fam. End is nearing with what I've recently been experiencing.

 

[Acee]

Not looking too good fam. End is nearing with what I've recently been experiencing.

Open a thread about your current problems and tag me. Missed your depressing but comic at the same time type of posts.

 

[Johnnybegood]

you will defo get IOIs irl as a HTN, not constantly every single day but you should get a couple on average each time you go out to say a busy nightlife environment

If you rate yourself as a HTN and you never get any IOIs irl then you are overrating yourself im sorry boyo

1000x this. Its so funny seing comments like @Br0sk1 and @MoggerGaston self-proclaiming themselves as HTN yet one only has 1 slay with a landwhale and the other one is constantly complaining about a lack of attention and no girls.

Face it, you guys are not HTN! Or you're extremely autistic (doubt it).

 

[Johnnybegood]

I have friends that are true HTN. They never had any problem getting girls. So we have three possible problems here:

1) Either i am underrating them or;

2) You guys overrate yourselves (most likely) or;

3) A lot of you guys suffer from mental illness and need to come to terms with that. Like @loksr said most guys are not incels especially if they are Normie+ unless they are extremely non-nt. Like @loksr said its over for non-nt sub-chads...and thats a Hiroshima Nagasaki pill btw

 

[Deleted member 15569]

1000x this. Its so funny seing comments like @Br0sk1 and @MoggerGaston self-proclaiming themselves as HTN yet one only has 1 slay with a landwhale and the other one is constantly complaining about a lack of attention and no girls.

Face it, you guys are not HTN! Or you're extremely autistic (doubt it).

br0ski is high tier normie thats him in his pfp, as in being extremely autistic they are booth users with 1000 + posts soooo

 

[Br0sk1]

1000x this. Its so funny seing comments like @Br0sk1 and @MoggerGaston self-proclaiming themselves as HTN yet one only has 1 slay with a landwhale and the other one is constantly complaining about a lack of attention and no girls.

Face it, you guys are not HTN! Or you're extremely autistic (doubt it).

I'm often rated HTN by folks here, but often also MTN and more rarely LTN.

Maybe MTN is more what I am, but lower than that is impossible due to how I look in group photos and the fact I'm not a fat fuck.

 

[Johnnybegood]

br0ski is high tier normie thats him in his pfp, as in being extremely autistic they are booth users with 1000 + posts soooo

Yeah i KNOW it's him. And i dont think he is a HTN. Just my opinion. I could be wrong though. More like MTN.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

1000x this. Its so funny seing comments like @Br0sk1 and @MoggerGaston self-proclaiming themselves as HTN yet one only has 1 slay with a landwhale and the other one is constantly complaining about a lack of attention and no girls.

Face it, you guys are not HTN! Or you're extremely autistic (doubt it).

I mog 75% of guys tbh but it's useless. unless u mog atleast 90%