Muscles are complete and utter cope
Yea only if it’s severe like the guys in the photo
Is it the same for short people
Imo yh, there’s no point gymcelling if you’re short you won’t stand out anyways
if you see the men who are the most sexually attractive to women they have nice aesthetic physiques. they are the ones who get lusted over. ofc face and height are more important but physique plays a noticeable role
U just need to be lean and not a twig past
so you think jeff seid with his physique makes no difference whatsoever, and he would get similar levels of attraction if he just wasnt a twig?
Gymcelling has good ROI if you’re at least 5’8 and above and have an ok face
Extreme outlier + it wouldn’t be much worse
exactly, even with narrow clavicles you can still add 1-2 inches of bideltoid which helps
i disagree, personally ive found that guys who have aesthetic physiques, tan, and are tall as well (not denying importance of height) with above average faces but not chad faces, do better in terms of attracting women compared to someone with a chad face like Jordan Barret but who is quite skinny
You think having a good amount of muscle doesn’t help if you’re at least in the 5’8-5’10 range? Seriously?
ur allowed to have your own opinon based on your experiences ofc, this is just what ive found
gym is great for ascending and one of the best things to get more genuine desire that is fully in your control, i dont get people who are entirely anti gym
He would. If he had a lean athletic physique (just not skinny) he’d still have similar smv. His face is literally HTN+ and he has godly proportions regardless.
It would help, till you stand next to someone taller
Im not anti gym Im anti gymcelling
thats where i disagree, i think his level of muscle mass really does help him. to each their own tho i suppose
These are all super below average tho
if you define gymcelling as doing nothing else to improve your looks apart from the gym, then you're right
I mean there’s no real way to truly mog irl if you aren’t tall barring extreme outlier faces so that’s water, but you should be doing everything you can to ascend in average height range why give up jfl
yes exactly, hardly anyone is that bad, even if you are slightly below average which not that many people are, most are average, you can still improve to a very large extent
You're just gonna look like a jester.
Yeah lad I'm 6'4 17" bidelt at 52kg js starv init
I mean obsessing over the gym and thinking it’s gonna save you. You either got it or you don’t and no physique will change that
yeah but this isnt applicable for most, most people who think they are framecels arent that bad and can improve a lot
Could even increase bc some girls don’t like roided apes
well if the gym gives someone a sense of purpose and they genuinely enjoy it what does it matter? as long as they arent being delusional, obsessing over something thats a productive goal is never bad
shut the fuck up retard
It’s fine just do it for yourself and don’t expect to get all the gals bc you gymcelled like I thought it would be when I was 10
do not listen to this man he is trying to destroy you
and most people who think they have narrow clavicles dont even have it that bad, you will never know your potential until you give it your full effort
just use shoulder pads
“Improving yourself”
Cope
Then u take your shirt off to slay her and she sees your subhuman frame and leaves brootal
this definitely only happened to you
My frame is pretty below average and doesn’t look as bad as all of these photos jfl
Didnt
tf is kid cudi doin here
Whatever helps you cope man, no gym for your subhuman frame
@D02 explain the jfl
If Jeff said had the same build as Chico he would lose smv becuz he wouldn't be able to display his one in a billion symmetrical muscles
