If you’re above NW2 it’s over

[Saint Casanova]

Fin and dut surpress DHT while RU kills all androgens

I also felt legit bad for a week when i started applying it. First i was coping, then i stopped

Like headaches, low energy and dizyness


Worst thing that can Happen on fin or dut is bad erections while RU can literally kill you


When i had those heart pains i read into it and was shaking my head thinking why tf i m taking an experimental drauf instead a drug that millions have been taking for decades

Supposedly it only occupies the androgen receptor for a short time. It doesn’t degrade it or block it indefinitely. It has a short half life. It passed phase 1 safety trials so they would’ve scrapped it and it wouldn’t have if it could cause a heart attack or respiratory distress.

Then again, who knows what we’re getting buying from shady grey market vendors.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Supposedly it only occupies the androgen receptor for a short time. It doesn’t degrade it or block it indefinitely. It has a short half life. It passed phase 1 safety trials so they would’ve scrapped it and it wouldn’t have if it could cause a heart attack or respiratory distress.

Then again, who knows what we’re getting buying from shady grey market vendors.

Thought those potential side-effects were one of the reasons they scrapped it? Guys complaining of chest pain etc?

 

[Saint Casanova]

Wow, interesting. Seen so many guys do RU and just bald anyway lol.

I think it way more variable in terms of response and if you’re even getting ru to begin with

 

[NW3Slayer]

Thoughts on kx826?

Never heard of it

Boyoes stick to fin and dut

It works and is the only possible side is Bad dick which you will get in any other anti androgen anyway

It’s actually the opposite I think. I started with RU first for a year and noticed most of the results with it. The min hasn’t really done much. That’s why I’m thinking of switching to oral min or using tret with topical

I use topical min 1ml per day 5%.

Guys also dont underestimate oral minox in big doses

Its a blood pressure medicament. You get very Low bloodpressure which means you have low energy and desire. You will literally get dizzy when you stand up

And cialis enhances that as well


If you can avoid minox, rather avoid it tbh


Topical fin in microdoses is the best solution

Supposedly it only occupies the androgen receptor for a short time. It doesn’t degrade it or block it indefinitely. It has a short half life. It passed phase 1 safety trials so they would’ve scrapped it and it wouldn’t have if it could cause a heart attack or respiratory distress.

Then again, who knows what we’re getting buying from shady grey market vendors.

Yeah shady Grey markets is the problem, you dont know the concentration contamination etc

 

[Saint Casanova]

Thought those potential side-effects were one of the reasons they scrapped it? Guys complaining of chest pain etc?

It passed phase 1 but they’re saying that it was scrapped for financial reasons rather than safety but we could never know. There was an interesting Reddit thread on it if I recall.

The half life of the drug is short and the very nature of the drug shouldn’t cause any permanent damage. It just binds to the androgen receptor temporarily. Think of it as a sarm

 

[CantStopTheMog]

Sad but true

I was NW4 Vertex 6 months ago, now I’m NW2.5 Vertex
Still over

 

[Saint Casanova]

I was NW4 Vertex 6 months ago, now I’m NW2.5 Vertex
Still over

Brutal hair loss from spurs’ relegation scrap last season

 

[CantStopTheMog]

Brutal hair loss from spurs’ relegation scrap last season

Unironically got better when the season ended and probs actually made it worse originally

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

It passed phase 1 but they’re saying that it was scrapped for financial reasons rather than safety but we could never know. There was an interesting Reddit thread on it if I recall.

The half life of the drug is short and the very nature of the drug shouldn’t cause any permanent damage. It just binds to the androgen receptor temporarily. Think of it as a sarm

Yeah but if it has a short half-life then DHT may still get a lot of time to bind to AR during the day, when it already has stronger affinity to begin with. But hey if it worked for you then that's interesting, maybe you could get even way more regrowth on fin/dut if even RU helped you? You maybe are not ultra sensitive to androgens relative to some other guys that failed with RU either, maybe that is why it doesn't work for some but did for you. Could maybe mean fin/dut would do even more for you in regrowth.

Maybe I already said this but I am still getting regrowth 2 1/2+ years in on treatment too, so seemingly there is a lot of window for potential regrowth over time too with enough DHT suppression.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Yeah but if it has a short half-life then DHT may still get a lot of time to bind to AR during the day, when it already has stronger affinity to begin with. But hey if it worked for you then that's interesting, maybe you could get even way more regrowth on fin/dut if even RU helped you? You maybe are not ultra sensitive to androgens relative to some other guys that failed with RU either, maybe that is why it doesn't work for some but did for you. Could maybe mean fin/dut would do even more for you in regrowth.

Maybe I already said this but I am still getting regrowth 2 1/2+ years in on treatment too, so seemingly there is a lot of window for potential regrowth over time too with enough DHT suppression.

It just doesn’t make much sense because for a lot of people it seems that ru can be the missing piece. Apparently there’s people blasting tren and DHT derivatives and ru seemingly protects them. Who knows that’s really going on though

 

[Saint Casanova]

Unironically got better when the season ended and probs actually made it worse originally

Mine will go ASAP too now that United will be playing in the champions league. 2-0 loss against hull isn’t the most convincing start

 

[CantStopTheMog]

Mine will go ASAP too now that United will be playing in the champions league. 2-0 loss against hull isn’t the most convincing start

Fin and min asap

 

[IronMike]

yo youre back already

back from what?

 

[foidfondler]

back from what?

weren't u temp banned

 

[IronMike]

weren't u temp banned

Yeah like 5 months ago, unjustifiably, and by a shitty former mod who may have killed himself