IF YOU'RE ANTI ISRAEL AND YOU'RE , WHITE, PRO WESTERN , YOU'RE A FAGGOT

[FiendFiend]

Idc abt slavs and poles deserved what they got with dirlewanger but pretending they would of killed every slav alive is ridiculous when nearing the end of the war they actively just wanted to germanize poland and started seeing slavs in a far more positive light, also the non-german SS charlemagne were the most fanatical division to the point where they were one of the last to stop fighting in the battle of berlin, majority of french people were in support of the reich

America literally used financial warfare to push britain out of egypt during the suez crisis as well as heavily pressuring the dutch in indonesia and help, but yea i dont fully disagree that their financial issues lead to decolonization but dont pretend america was innocent in this regard as they wanted to become the major ruling power

"slavs deserved what they got" but yeah brahhh im pro-white.

Nazi germany would be a white utopia who cared about incels like mee, like me not sime hierachal oligarchy in where they import a bunch of third world apes as slavour labour like in saudi arabia, and i couldnt be able to talk out against the government on that without getting my head chopped off

 

[Hess]

America is not anti-white. The world just became more brown and less white, even if hitler won, you would still witness the same thing. Even a country like China, was forced to upon up. Globalism would have been inevitable if a third world war didnt break out.

Germany would have traded gloablly if it won the second world war.

No we wouldnt because NS germany didnt support decolonization whatsoever, as for global trade i have zero issue with that

And also a question, if germany won the second world war, italy had its colonies in Africa, and if not more, maybe germany took parts of Africa, and they are under german rule. You do realize unless germany or italy or any other fascist country in europe, didnt let in millions of third world immigrants to their home countries, and refused to give them passports, and there millions more of them, than the settlers and governors there, they'd all start anti-colonial riots right?

Germany had some interests of taking parts of africa in the beginning of the war but the vast majorities of its interests were solely in europe and any mittelafrika policy highly depends on how they won the war considering they gave up majority of their interests in mittel afrika to spain or italy but even in that case they solely just wanted to economically exploit them and not migrate them or settle into africa, fascist italy was a dogshit hegelian gov but considering germany was the dominant partner they would of not allowed for that due to their extremely specific racial and biological beliefs that dictated their policies, when hitler was asked how to deal with gandhi his advice to the british was specifically to shoot him and thousands more indians if they kept resisting, hitler had extreme admiration for colonial dominance of the british which is why he was personally a devout anglophile and wanted to avoid war with britiain

Anti colonialism or mass immigration would have been inevitable. The issue is that the governments would have been dictatorship, lets say the next leader after hitler or whatever, as the chancellor of germany said, okay guys, mercedes, porsche, and german companies have lobbied me for more immigration, and we want to hold onto our colonies , we might have to take in some immigrants from Africa. Would they not do it?

No, the reason we have such neo-liberal and left wing politics today is downstream of the 1968 left wing movements and their extreme push into academia and the government, why would this be inevitable in a dictatorship with an extreme vanguard party basing itself off of ideological loyalty and racial purity, this is retarded but even then any german interest in africa was long given up to italy or spain

 

[Hess]

"slavs deserved what they got" but yeah brahhh im pro-white.

Nazi germany would be a white utopia who cared about incels like mee, like me not sime hierachal oligarchy in where they import a bunch of third world apes as slavour labour like in saudi arabia, and i couldnt be able to talk out against the government on that without getting my head chopped off

They were not as anti slavic as you make them out to be and your delusions over them importing slave labor would of been impossible, the reason i said they deserved what they got was because of poland's treatment of german populations outside of germany which hitler had every right to attack them for, also even if they did "use" slave labor why would they do from nations they have zero control in rather than the reichskommissart in eastern europe you retard

 

[FiendFiend]

Obama let in tens of millions.

Under trumps first term (which wasnt great and had his hands tied), 1.9 million crossings happened, and 1.5 million deportations. 400,000 more illegal immigrants in 4 years.

Now currently crossings are basically 0, and 3 million illegals are out the country.

BUT MUHHH OBAMA DEPORTED MORE. 0 fucking context u are the most unuanced or genuine retarded humans ever.

Under obama accounting for the people sent back at the border and turnt around but are counted as "deportations", Also obama let in a bunch of third world niggers ILLEGALLY. And made a bunch of illegals LEGAL, i know haitan sheeboons who say they got legal status under obama.

View attachment 5614787

Obama 8 million legal immigrants (mainly third world nigger shitholes)

3 million illegals stayed

Gave 800,000 illegals , legal status.

Therefore essentially 11,000,000 new third world niggers entered the country more or less in 8 years.

Trump has net negative immigration, and immigration that is occuring is from first world countries more often, they take in white south african refugees ONLY.

I lied its likely higher, obama let in 10 million of which most were from the third world

Probably around 12,000,000 non whites entered within one president.

Not to mention how much biden brought in, its fucking disgusting. Acting as if there isnt an obvious option to halt ethnic replacement is cope

 

[Slavurik]

Idc abt slavs and poles deserved what they got with dirlewanger but pretending they would of killed every slav alive is ridiculous when nearing the end of the war they actively just wanted to germanize poland and started seeing slavs in a far more positive light, also the non-german SS charlemagne were the most fanatical division to the point where they were one of the last to stop fighting in the battle of berlin, majority of french people were in support of the reich

America literally used financial warfare to push britain out of egypt during the suez crisis as well as heavily pressuring the dutch in indonesia and help, but yea i dont fully disagree that their financial issues lead to decolonization but dont pretend america was innocent in this regard as they wanted to become the major ruling power

Nigga wtf did Slavs do wrong? And no nigga, they said allat when they started to lose the war and just started to say some BS to gain some more support and allies by listing nations that were considered inferior as "honorary Aryans" and other shit. U can read about allat, the nazi ideology mostly was very stupid and antiscience, and in a lot of cases racial categories were used for political benefits, for example the japanese the allies of the reich were considered "the aryans of Asia" like wtf And nigga majority of french people were considered as a "mix" of whites and subhumans by the nazis and they did not support Germany. Just check allat nigga.

America represents the Western world, it is the country with the biggest amount of white people living in it and generally it is now the colossus of the West, without it we would prob just collapse. Nigger, ofc they wanted to become the major ruling power. So did Britain, so did the nazis, so did the USSR and many others. Are u a complete idiot? Why when Germany kills half of Europe (60-80 millions of whites) and pushes wars to become major power then that's ok or when Britain does that it is also ok but America can't? After all america won bcs they had the best circumstances and system and other things for it.

No that they represent whites at all - totally untrue, they mostly do the opposite by discriminating white people but the same goes on in all the Western countries nowadays bcs of the left-wingers and the idiots that vote for them, not bcs of jews.
And generally ur takes are very retarded, Israel is 60% white, the people in charge of Israel are all white jews with european heritage, the laws, the country itself represents the western world in mid east. It is true, if ur for the whites the last thing u can do is to support arab subhumans and be against Israel when the goal of Israel is to get rid of them. If u europeans weren't so cucks then Israel would kill them long ago but u just make troubles. Like nigga ur really blame jews for immigrants when millions of people if Europe support this migration and support Palestininans and allat shit like bro the main problem are them, the lefists, not jews

 

[KB_maxxer]

TikTok - Make Your Day

Netanyahu is fighting a battle for western civilization against the third world sucm, they want to globalize the intifada, end "apartheid" again. What happend last time apartheid was ended? They are using anti white slogans to describe Israel, they see israel as a white colonial state.



They think us fighting the cold war against third worldist communist scum like gadaffi who bragged about muslims ethnically replacing europe, was muhh israel. They even think ICE has something to do with israel, they hate it because they see a white country, although following a partly different faith, theyre jewish + secular. We're christian + secular. We're in the same boat with them, we share way more in common then we do with third world scum.

After israel, then next Australia (its aboriginal land supposedly), end the battle once and for all

If isn't wasn't meddling with western affairs so much and trying to shuffle migration to pin down us(it can't destroy the west but it will harm us a lot).

If not for that I wouldn't be against Israel, except now majority Jews are mizhrari essentially Arabs, not sephari or askhenazi (euros)

 

[Wicket]

Fuck em both faggot ass countries

 

[Hess]

Nigga wtf did Slavs do wrong? And no nigga, they said allat when they started to lose the war and just started to say some BS to gain some more support and allies by listing nations that were considered inferior as "honorary Aryans" and other shit. U can read about allat, the nazi ideology mostly was very stupid and antiscience, and in a lot of cases racial categories were used for political benefits, for example the japanese the allies of the reich were considered "the aryans of Asia" like wtf And nigga majority of french people were considered as a "mix" of whites and subhumans by the nazis and they did not support Germany. Just check allat nigga.

America represents the Western world, it is the country with the biggest amount of white people living in it and generally it is now the colossus of the West, without it we would prob just collapse. Nigger, ofc they wanted to become the major ruling power. So did Britain, so did the nazis, so did the USSR and many others. Are u a complete idiot? Why when Germany kills half of Europe (60-80 millions of whites) and pushes wars to become major power then that's ok or when Britain does that it is also ok but America can't? After all america won bcs they had the best circumstances and system and other things for it.

No that they represent whites at all - totally untrue, they mostly do the opposite by discriminating white people but the same goes on in all the Western countries nowadays bcs of the left-wingers and the idiots that vote for them, not bcs of jews.
And generally ur takes are very retarded, Israel is 60% white, the people in charge of Israel are all white jews with european heritage, the laws, the country itself represents the western world in mid east. It is true, if ur for the whites the last thing u can do is to support arab subhumans and be against Israel when the goal of Israel is to get rid of them. If u europeans weren't so cucks then Israel would kill them long ago but u just make troubles. Like nigga ur really blame jews for immigrants when millions of people if Europe support this migration and support Palestininans and allat shit like bro the main problem are them, the lefists, not jews

Never read any book on their beliefs before reward, they actively supported germanization of slavs and it wasnt some pragmatic shift that lead to them but geniune ideological movement to a pan-european order, everythign that tries to paint them as going against their views leaves out that it was a geniune evolution and that hitler was extremely principled in regards to his government and rarely made concessions

 

[tenmacel]

TikTok - Make Your Day

Netanyahu is fighting a battle for western civilization against the third world sucm, they want to globalize the intifada, end "apartheid" again. What happend last time apartheid was ended? They are using anti white slogans to describe Israel, they see israel as a white colonial state.



They think us fighting the cold war against third worldist communist scum like gadaffi who bragged about muslims ethnically replacing europe, was muhh israel. They even think ICE has something to do with israel, they hate it because they see a white country, although following a partly different faith, theyre jewish + secular. We're christian + secular. We're in the same boat with them, we share way more in common then we do with third world scum.

After israel, then next Australia (its aboriginal land supposedly), end the battle once and for all

Both are semitic dust-breathers who look to fully subvert the west and turn it into a giant desert like their homeland, both are working on it right now. They're both net negatives on the West

 

[tenmacel]

Both are semitic dust-breathers who look to fully subvert the west and turn it into a giant desert like their homeland, both are working on it right now. They're both net negatives on the West

Tho ashks are high IQ and innovated greatly they did so breathing in the European forest air not the particulates of the Negev

 

[Hess]

Never read any book on their beliefs before reward, they actively supported germanization of slavs and it wasnt some pragmatic shift that lead to them but geniune ideological movement to a pan-european order, everythign that tries to paint them as going against their views leaves out that it was a geniune evolution and that hitler was extremely principled in regards to his government and rarely made concessions
View attachment 5614840

 

[tenmacel]

Never read any book on their beliefs before reward, they actively supported germanization of slavs and it wasnt some pragmatic shift that lead to them but geniune ideological movement to a pan-european order, everythign that tries to paint them as going against their views leaves out that it was a geniune evolution and that hitler was extremely principled in regards to his government and rarely made concessions
View attachment 5614840

Hitler explicity rejected the germanization of slavs in meinkampf and said they would dilute aryan culture and that there is no germanization of people only soil

 

[Hess]

America represents the Western world, it is the country with the biggest amount of white people living in it and generally it is now the colossus of the West, without it we would prob just collapse. Nigger, ofc they wanted to become the major ruling power. So did Britain, so did the nazis, so did the USSR and many others. Are u a complete idiot? Why when Germany kills half of Europe (60-80 millions of whites) and pushes wars to become major power then that's ok or when Britain does that it is also ok but America can't? After all america won bcs they had the best circumstances and system and other things for it

Also lol at this, germany actively tried to prevent war with britain and america and make peace with britain and to focus its efforts against the bolshevik horde on the eastern front

 

[tenmacel]

View attachment 5614864View attachment 5614866

Yet he killed them in droves pls explain

 

[Slavurik]

Never read any book on their beliefs before reward, they actively supported germanization of slavs and it wasnt some pragmatic shift that lead to them but geniune ideological movement to a pan-european order
View attachment 5614840

Nigger it is some unknown book from an unknown author, it is not a proof at all ur just a retard.
I read "Mein Kampf" a book Hitler wrote while he was in Jail, and let's put it that way: he didn't like Slavs at all, and I put it mildly. Nigga they killed 8 million poles (many of whom were civilians) and 26 millions russians (60% of whom were civilians).
Nigga, their initial plan was to kick out the Slavs beyond Ural and then to populate the new lands with Germans. But it was INITIAL, the initial plan with jews was to kick them all out to Madagascar, but then they started to kill 'em in gas chambers. So could've happened with the russians that Hitler considered as subhumans, but they did not even got to this point so we cannot know. But I can tell u know nothing of this Period by the shit ur writin'

 

[Hess]

Hitler explicity rejected the germanization of slavs in meinkampf and said they would dilute aryan culture and that there is no germanization of people only soil

He was anti-slavic during his time from austria hungary but he came to reject that view later on

 

[Hess]

Yet he killed them in droves pls explain

Gotta break some eggs to make an omelete, the war in the eastern front was just brutal in general and the NSDAP wasnt fully ideologically unified until near the end of the war, their pan-european shift evolved only near the end of the war

 

[FiendFiend]

No we wouldnt because NS germany didnt support decolonization whatsoever, as for global trade i have zero issue with that

Germany had some interests of taking parts of africa in the beginning of the war but the vast majorities of its interests were solely in europe and any mittelafrika policy highly depends on how they won the war considering they gave up majority of their interests in mittel afrika to spain or italy but even in that case they solely just wanted to economically exploit them and not migrate them or settle into africa, fascist italy was a dogshit hegelian gov but considering germany was the dominant partner they would of not allowed for that due to their extremely specific racial and biological beliefs that dictated their policies, when hitler was asked how to deal with gandhi his advice to the british was specifically to shoot him and thousands more indians if they kept resisting, hitler had extreme admiration for colonial dominance of the british which is why he was personally a devout anglophile and wanted to avoid war with britiain

No, the reason we have such neo-liberal and left wing politics today is downstream of the 1968 left wing movements and their extreme push into academia and the government, why would this be inevitable in a dictatorship with an extreme vanguard party basing itself off of ideological loyalty and racial purity, this is retarded but even then any german interest in africa was long given up to italy or spain

Fascist portugal with the help of pro western nations couldnt fight of left wing communist geurillas, countries like south africa, rhodesia couldnt.

But you are convinced Germany could? With the population boom in Africa that would have been inevitable as technology progressed. Globalization would have been inevitable with some form of internet being made, etc. the world being interconnected would have been inevitable, and if not the government budging, the people would be like, look at this african i see on the internet, hes a human like me.

Hitler flirted with third world niggers in the middle east, muslims in order to fight the jews and british, trust me man, he would not be so LE based, and even if he was , the guy after him or the guy after that would have brought in millions of immigrants. You do know arabs have no way of voting out the saudi monarchy right?

I think global mass immigration, globalism and the shockwaves of it in the 80s was inevitable. I dont think raegen or whoever signed in these policies WANTED mass immigration, and what not. It was just inevitable. Having passport power, having global trade, especially in a world with nukes, is how you win the cold wars. Because of that Germany would be forced to do so. Otherwise the japanese , or whatever is left of america, or whatever alliance is there to rival germany, would be the "open society".

Im grateful we had globalism and mass immigration in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s, so we can confront its issues and stop it, through voting in what policies we like. This blackpilled retarded belief that the establishment are here to stay and u cant vote for alternative parties and they cant become the majority is stupid.

Reform UK is an amazing example, britain has the oldest 2 party system in the world, and nigel farage was able to break it, over the publics concerns on mass immigration. The pendulum, after the Second World War, no matter who won, would have swung to the left regardless, especially in terms of immigration. The internet, passports, global trade, global capital was inevitable, even under a nationalist socialist economy.

 

[Slavurik]

Also lol at this, germany actively tried to prevent war with britain and america and make peace with britain and to focus its efforts against the bolshevik horde on the eastern front

No he did not nigga.
Germany violated several treaties and agreements with France and Britain for many years, and then the war began after they completely went mad and attacked Poland despite the warnings. Do you even know anything about that period?
Nigger, Germany declared war on the United States first, wtf
Bro just shut tf up at this point ur a retard subhuman that knows nothing abt history. U just make up facts at this point nigga ur too low-iq to argue abt politics and history

 

[tenmacel]

He was anti-slavic during his time from austria hungary but he came to reject that view later on
View attachment 5614886

Czechs and Poles were the least slavic slavs around him lmao (ESPECIALLY Czechs) in the grand scheme of things he still considered actual, undiluted Eastern slavs untermensch in line with his policies of germanic settlement along the Volga

 

[Slavurik]

Czechs and Poles were the least slavic slavs around him lmao (ESPECIALLY Czechs) in the grand scheme of things he still considered actual, undiluted Eastern slavs untermensch in line with his policies of germanic settlement along the Volga

Nigga don't waste ur time on him he is either trolling either a total retard he just said to me that "Germany actively tried to prevent war with Britain and America", and some other bs. No point he is too retarded

 

[tenmacel]

Gotta break some eggs to make an omelete, the war in the eastern front was just brutal in general and the NSDAP wasnt fully ideologically unified until near the end of the war, their pan-european shift evolved only near the end of the war
View attachment 5614895View attachment 5614896

That pan European shift was not a real belief bro it was pragmatic improvisation to not seem as ravenous to slavs as they were when the war ended to minimize punishment--eastern slavs are "white" apes so it didn't matter what ideological shift happened the germans would still get genocided

 

[tenmacel]

Nigga don't waste ur time on him he is either trolling either a total retard he just said to me that "Germany actively tried to prevent war with Britain and America", and some other bs. No point he is too retarded

Marky mark is a good 5'8 haha what are you doing having ur pfp as him, germany was not looking for early war there was a lot of egging on from both sides regardless it's not black-and-white

 

[Hess]

Fascist portugal with the help of pro western nations couldnt fight of left wing communist geurillas, countries like south africa, rhodesia couldnt.

But you are convinced Germany could? With the population boom in Africa that would have been inevitable as technology progressed. Globalization would have been inevitable with some form of internet being made, etc. the world being interconnected would have been inevitable, and if not the government budging, the people would be like, look at this african i see on the internet, hes a human like me

Are you dense? there is an obvious huge difference between the small nation of portugual and an extreme industrial power such as germany with power over all of europe, also you ignore how as soon as the threat of communism subsided america turned and lead the sanctions against south africa and rhodesia

Hitler flirted with third world niggers in the middle east, muslims in order to fight the jews and british, trust me man, he would not be so LE based, and even if he was , the guy after him or the guy after that would have brought in millions of immigrants. You do know arabs have no way of voting out the saudi monarchy right?y

Out of pragmatism, but even then he explicitly praised the british colonial endeavours multiple time pretending he loved third worlders is silly

I think global mass immigration, globalism and the shockwaves of it in the 80s was inevitable. I dont think raegen or whoever signed in these policies WANTED mass immigration, and what not. It was just inevitable. Having passport power, having global trade, especially in a world with nukes, is how you win the cold wars. Because of that Germany would be forced to do so. Otherwise the japanese , or whatever is left of america, or whatever alliance is there to rival germany, would be the "open society".

I doubt that heavily

 

[FiendFiend]

Gotta break some eggs to make an omelete, the war in the eastern front was just brutal in general and the NSDAP wasnt fully ideologically unified until near the end of the war, their pan-european shift evolved only near the end of the war
View attachment 5614895View attachment 5614896

niggas be talking like this with anime profile pictures as if u r not going to the be the first in the eugenics program to not reproduce, just accept the good guys won out of the three sides.

U had communist marxist third worldist faggot world order by the USSR
U had the Nazis who were eugencisits, who would have made sure u didnt reproduce for sure
U had the democracies of the world who weren't eugenicists, but not in favour of thrid world niggers too and a global intifada.

The good guys won, we just have to confront one issue and thats mass immigration, which I think we will win out in the end, I think the population boom was going to be inevitable, and so was the whole world developing, Africa getting food was inevitable. Whether by foreign aid, or not.

 

[milkshake_addict]

rabbis cream themselves over a fallen west and you think they are your ally?

 

[kababcel]

I dont care about politics but bombing malnourished harmless children is inexcusable

 

[Slavurik]

Marky mark is a good 5'8 haha what are you doing having ur pfp as him, germany was not looking for early war there was a lot of egging on from both sides regardless it's not black-and-white

Well they broke several treaties and other shit. What's the prob with Marky Mark he mogs btw

 

[Hess]

Nigga don't waste ur time on him he is either trolling either a total retard he just said to me that "Germany actively tried to prevent war with Britain and America", and some other bs. No point he is too retarded

Germany had real interests in the east to secure its german minorities and sent multiple offers to britain during ww2 for peace, german leadership was expecting a scenario where there was conflict and some reshaping but being able to balance the powers of the world and secure their interests, it was britain that totalized the war

 

[Slavurik]

Germany had real interests in the east to secure its german minorities and sent multiple offers to britain during ww2 for peace, german leadership was expecting a scenario where there was conflict and some reshaping but being able to balance the powers of the world and secure their interests, it was britain that totalized the war

Obv they did not want to have war on 2 fronts like in WWI but they did too much

 

[Hess]

niggas be talking like this with anime profile pictures as if u r not going to the be the first in the eugenics program to not reproduce, just accept the good guys won out of the three sides.

U had communist marxist third worldist faggot world order by the USSR
U had the Nazis who were eugencisits, who would have made sure u didnt reproduce for sure
U had the democracies of the world who weren't eugenicists, but not in favour of thrid world niggers too and a global intifada.

The good guys won, we just have to confront one issue and thats mass immigration, which I think we will win out in the end, I think the population boom was going to be inevitable, and so was the whole world developing, Africa getting food was inevitable. Whether by foreign aid, or not.

Adhom cuz you cant argue, if the reich won neither the left wing infiltration of academia in the west would happen because of no communist super power existing in europe or any major democracies being able to oppose the reich

 

[tenmacel]

Well they broke several treaties and other shit. What's the prob with Marky Mark he mogs btw

Britain under Churchill was very aggressive to go to war with Germany and positioned themselves with casus belli, it's unbecoming to have marky mark as your pfp because you're not close to him in height, he mogs but he's 5'8(my goat tho)

 

[Hess]

Obv they did not want to have war on 2 fronts like in WWI but they did too much

My point is that they didnt plan to take over territory or subjagate the western front until britain totalized the war and was not accepting their peace offer which lead to them becoming more dedicated to the war, britain had the option to let them pursue their interests in the east

 

[tenmacel]

Adhom cuz you cant argue, if the reich won neither the left wing infiltration of academia in the west would happen because of no communist super power existing in europe or any major democracies being able to oppose the reich

We failed the long march in europe nigga also address my shit

 

[FiendFiend]

Are you dense? there is an obvious huge difference between the small nation of portugual and an extreme industrial power such as germany with power over all of europe, also you ignore how as soon as the threat of communism subsided america turned and lead the sanctions against south africa and rhodesia

Out of pragmatism, but even then he explicitly praised the british colonial endeavours multiple time pretending he loved third worlders is silly

I doubt that heavily

Then im sure he or the leader after him who would have sold out his people for cheap foreign labour for companies out of his own "pragmatism"

If hitler was alive born n the 2000s, he would have cooperated with the jews and cooperated with rich jewish business to reverse the replacement of his country. Hitler was a reaction to left-wing Jewry, nothing else. The jews were punished, slaughtered, and jewish rabbis even now talk about how jews were degenerate in the 1930s; that's why they were killed.

Hitler wasn't a good or bad man, he was just very emotional and did what he did thought was right at the time and acted off emotion , people need to stop praising him as he was a great leader.

 

[Hess]

We failed the long march in europe nigga also address my shit

I will in a second ive got two other people im arguing with at the same time

 

[Hess]

Then im sure he or the leader after him who would have sold out his people for cheap foreign labour for companies out of his own "pragmatism"

If hitler was alive born n the 2000s, he would have cooperated with the jews and cooperated with rich jewish business to reverse the replacement of his country. Hitler was a reaction to left-wing Jewry, nothing else. The jews were punished, slaughtered, and jewish rabbis even now talk about how jews were degenerate in the 1930s; that's why they were killed.

Hitler wasn't a good or bad man, he was just very emotional and did what he did thought was right at the time and acted off emotion , people need to stop praising him as he was a great leader.

except there wouldnt be any financial interest or need to import third world labour considering they had THE ENTIRE EASTERN EUROPE, youre so dense lmfao

 

[tenmacel]

Then im sure he or the leader after him who would have sold out his people for cheap foreign labour for companies out of his own "pragmatism"

If hitler was alive born n the 2000s, he would have cooperated with the jews and cooperated with rich jewish business to reverse the replacement of his country. Hitler was a reaction to left-wing Jewry, nothing else. The jews were punished, slaughtered, and jewish rabbis even now talk about how jews were degenerate in the 1930s; that's why they were killed.

Hitler wasn't a good or bad man, he was just very emotional and did what he did thought was right at the time and acted off emotion , people need to stop praising him as he was a great leader.

Hitler looked to do what was best for his country, he needed a scapegoat to get elected, right now germany's problem is it's horrible left wing and boomer center while it's right wing is moskal worshipping, he would attack that instead

 

[Hess]

That pan European shift was not a real belief bro it was pragmatic improvisation to not seem as ravenous to slavs as they were when the war ended to minimize punishment--eastern slavs are "white" apes so it didn't matter what ideological shift happened the germans would still get genocided

Depends, there were pan-germanics that hated slavs and anti slavic sentiment and attrocities im not denying that but lets not pretend pan-europeanism wasnt real and that a huge chunk of them believed in european cooperation under germanic rule, esp with stuff like the ribbentrop committee and ppl like felix steiner in the SS believing that post war europe should be unified under self governing states under german leadership (like how the USSR had its soviet republics like ukraine but still had russian secretaries running the show), I am a germanic first and foremost and im not keen on slavs that much but I sincerely doubt they would be killed off rather than some compromise being reached, it would of moreso just been reichskommisserats running the show and taking money off them to fund germany

 

[tenmacel]

Depends, there were pan-germanics that hated slavs and anti slavic sentiment and attrocities im not denying that but lets not pretend pan-europeanism wasnt real and that a huge chunk of them believed in european cooperation under germanic rule, esp with stuff like the ribbentrop committee and ppl like felix steiner in the SS believing that post war europe should be unified under self governing states under german leadership (like how the USSR had its soviet republics like ukraine but still had russian secretaries running the show), I am a germanic first and foremost and im not keen on slavs that much but I sincerely doubt they would be killed off rather than some compromise being reached, it would of moreso just been reichskommisserats running the show and taking money off them to fund germany

In this hypothetical postwar scenario with the slavs being defeated by Germans and killed as well in part prior to the switch to pan europeanism, there would be nothing but bitterness and malice towards their new nazi overlords. Good chance is their anger⇒revolt/insurrection⇒nazi genocide of slavs⇒germanic settlement of eastern Europe

You wouldn't see this anywhere else in europe really because there was no racial hatred of majority groups like the french, etc--most were seen as corrupted aryans

 

[Hess]

Depends, there were pan-germanics that hated slavs and anti slavic sentiment and attrocities im not denying that but lets not pretend pan-europeanism wasnt real and that a huge chunk of them believed in european cooperation under germanic rule, esp with stuff like the ribbentrop committee and ppl like felix steiner in the SS believing that post war europe should be unified under self governing states under german leadership (like how the USSR had its soviet republics like ukraine but still had russian secretaries running the show), I am a germanic first and foremost and im not keen on slavs that much but I sincerely doubt they would be killed off rather than some compromise being reached, it would of moreso just been reichskommisserats running the show and taking money off them to fund germany

@tenmacel IMO its just much more complex than simply them wanting to kill all the slavs and such a huge chunk of it is overexaggerated despite their being actual sentiments against slavs (especially with poles) and realistically their sentiments would of died down for a more pan-european order with germany at the top ruling it all, also not to mention so many former SS veterans like leon degrelle that geniunelly believed in it

 

[tenmacel]

@tenmacel IMO its just much more complex than simply them wanting to kill all the slavs and such a huge chunk of it is overexaggerated despite their being actual sentiments against slavs (especially with poles) and realistically their sentiments would of died down for a more pan-european order with germany at the top ruling it all, also not to mention so many former SS veterans like leon degrelle that geniunelly believed in it

We failed the long march in yurop

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Nice debate who was right in the end I cba reading page 2

 

[Hess]

In this hypothetical postwar scenario with the slavs being defeated by Germans and killed as well in part prior to the switch to pan europeanism, there would be nothing but bitterness and malice towards their new nazi overlords. Good chance is their anger⇒revolt/insurrection⇒nazi genocide of slavs⇒germanic settlement of eastern Europe

You wouldn't see this anywhere else in europe really because there was no racial hatred of majority groups like the french, etc--most were seen as corrupted aryans

Depends on how they went abt it, there would be huge anti nazi sentiments but at the same time they could of easily negated it with smart governing and propaganda i dont believe severe revolts were inevitable and the most likely scenario just being a recreation of the septemberprogramm the second reich planned during ww1, would of most likely conceded giving them more autonomy in exchange for economically allying with german interests (outside of poland or the czechs those would of been fully annexed and treated harsh)

 

[Hess]

Nice debate who was right in the end I cba reading page 2

Me

 

[Hess]

niggas be talking like this with anime profile pictures as if u r not going to the be the first in the eugenics program to not reproduce, just accept the good guys won out of the three sides.

U had communist marxist third worldist faggot world order by the USSR
U had the Nazis who were eugencisits, who would have made sure u didnt reproduce for sure
U had the democracies of the world who weren't eugenicists, but not in favour of thrid world niggers too and a global intifada.

The good guys won, we just have to confront one issue and thats mass immigration, which I think we will win out in the end, I think the population boom was going to be inevitable, and so was the whole world developing, Africa getting food was inevitable. Whether by foreign aid, or not.

Also no way in hell you can say im never going to be reproducing or be eugenic when you have posted far more than me in under a year than I have since 2023, log off and touch grass nigger

 

[tenmacel]

Nice debate who was right in the end I cba reading page 2

Me

 

[FiendFiend]

Adhom cuz you cant argue, if the reich won neither the left wing infiltration of academia in the west would happen because of no communist super power existing in europe or any major democracies being able to oppose the reich

Left-wing academia can still be suppressed even under democratic right wing rule, or even by centrist rulers, they don't require a fascist dictatorship to do so. You're throwing away the baby with the bathwater. The privilege of voting on important issues.

You forget the Japanese would have been around, as well as the italians, there is no evidence that they would have made their policies more moderate.

What I do admire about fascism is how it crushed neo-marxist thought in academia, but the issue is, are we going to sacrifice so much civil liberties, especially for a government that answers to no one, and can u-turn in any decade just to crush left wing academia, something that we could do with the mandate for it under democracy. Trump absolutely has the mandate to do so right now , he is just not doing it, people are outraged at the lindsey clancy case, if Trump said tommorow, we are going to be cracking down on antifa, neo-marxists in college and universities. No one would be able to fight back.

You dont get we live in 2026, the past can not be undone, we need to cooperate with the Jews, they are also interested in destroying pro-pali left-wing academia. Lets work with them and do the job. The leftists are killing themselves, they dont reproduce, they only win elections through mass immigration, they inheritly hate the ultra rich, want to assasinate them.

We will have jews, billionaires, technocrats, on our side. Or do you want to fight this alone like a retard and then sign away comrpomises later on like trump did? The reaper comes to collect regardless in politics. If you want to run a populst , or somewhat fascist campaign, like meloni did , without the backing of rich influential people, you will have to make concessions to them, on immigration and what not, like trump did in his first term.

Or, you could let left wing academia get so crazy to the point where they are communists raging feminists who support lindsay clancy, and let the bilionaires run to you saying, okay we will concede on the immigration issue, we will concede on many issues, just crack down on these neo-marxists.

Hitler winning the election was through democracy and a free market place of ideas, you despise the same free marketplace of ideas that got hitler in power. Regular people will push back naturally against far-left ideas, and so will the rich. Thats how hitler managed to get german companies on board.

The issue is hitler had an ego trip, he wanted global dominance as much as he says he didn't. Right-wing movements were on the rise, germanys economic model was working, Italy was fascist, mosley would have broke the 2 part system , poland was happy.

The issue is he did pointless infighting. Hitler would have went down as one of the greatest leaders in world history. Europe was in his lap, he didnt need to start a war.

 

[FiendFiend]

Also no way in hell you can say im never going to be reproducing or be eugenic when you have posted far more than me in under a year than I have since 2023, log off and touch grass nigger
View attachment 5615010
View attachment 5615011

You have an anime profile picture, and I'm going outside in an hour or so, I just dont have shit to do since my friends are all away on vacation and I was sick so couldnt come with them.

I most definitley mog you, hitler would have kept me in his eugenics program and killed u

 

[Hess]

Left-wing academia can still be suppressed even under democratic right wing rule, or even by centrist rulers, they don't require a fascist dictatorship to do so. You're throwing away the baby with the bathwater. The privilege of voting on important issues.

Yet it was not and it gained such intense ground in academia to the point of being a major political ruling force in majority of the countries, china operates extremely well and acts in their ethnic interests without having to be a democracy, I hate china but their mode of governance proves that the NS gov would of operated just as well if not better

What I do admire about fascism is how it crushed neo-marxist thought in academia, but the issue is, are we going to sacrifice so much civil liberties, especially for a government that answers to no one, and can u-turn in any decade just to crush left wing academia, something that we could do with the mandate for it under democracy. Trump absolutely has the mandate to do so right now , he is just not doing it, people are outraged at the lindsey clancy case, if Trump said tommorow, we are going to be cracking down on antifa, neo-marxists in college and universities. No one would be able to fight back.

Civil liberties are a meme and you people already gave that away with mass surveillance (which isnt going to even used to clock antifa or leftists but will 100 percent only be used to crack down on right wing extremisism due to USA courts being extremely left wing) also lol at trump having the power to do so no he does not,

You dont get we live in 2026, the past can not be undone, we need to cooperate with the Jews, they are also interested in destroying pro-pali left-wing academia. Lets work with them and do the job. The leftists are killing themselves, they dont reproduce, they only win elections through mass immigration, they inheritly hate the ultra rich, want to assasinate them.

I never wanted to ally with left winger anti israel people due to being against jews but these people are not reliable allies in any meaningful sense, some right wing billionaires sure can be used as it was done historically with the NS and their middle class, also just because leftists dont reproduce doesnt mean that mass migration is their only way of spreading their beliefs, they have control over education and the mass culture and spread their ideas by infecting the kids of people who do breed, as for the ultra rich i dont hate them but lets not pretend mass mgiration was also not agitated by rich people who wanted cheaper labor, im fine with working with ones that allign with our interests but they need to tow the line (elon musk loves his indian immigrants for example despite pivoting to the right wing), i never said im against working with them but when the interests are not alligned and all we do is concede our core values and things we want then there is zero point in said allignment

We will have jews, billionaires, technocrats, on our side. Or do you want to fight this alone like a retard and then sign away comrpomises later on like trump did? The reaper comes to collect regardless in politics. If you want to run a populst , or somewhat fascist campaign, like meloni did , without the backing of rich influential people, you will have to make concessions to them, on immigration and what not, like trump did in his first term.

Again never said we shouldnt find rich people and funders that do agree with us but zero point in alligning with them when we will make concessions to those classes that go against our interests, the vast majority of these billionaires happily fund left wing movements and the ones that dont are a minority, whether they can be manipulated or not for our interests is a complex issue but dont be blind and fully trust them

Or, you could let left wing academia get so crazy to the point where they are communists raging feminists who support lindsay clancy, and let the bilionaires run to you saying, okay we will concede on the immigration issue, we will concede on many issues, just crack down on these neo-marxistt

That depends heavily and by the point where migration reaches an end point then it could be too late, again im not against the concept of allying with the rich because in my nation we allied with the rich to fund white enclaves in south africa like orania and afrikaner rights organizations like afriforum, idk why you think im against that

Hitler winning the election was through democracy and a free market place of ideas, you despise the same free marketplace of ideas that got hitler in power. Regular people will push back naturally against far-left ideas, and so will the rich. Thats how hitler managed to get german companies on board.

Hitler won because he manipulated the retarded conservatives which allowed the NSDAP to become a pluraity in parliament as well as making them appoint him as chancellor until he could then become president by dismantling civili liberties which allowed him to bypass democracy and crush hindenburg, also not to mention they were heavily reliant on beating up the communists in public and using violence VIA the SA which allowed them to suppress communists as well as intimidate voters into voting for them, they didnt win because they operated under the sense of free marketplaces of ideas they won because the brutally crushed their opposition and used smart tactics to undermine the failed democracy

The issue is hitler had an ego trip, he wanted global dominance as much as he says he didn't. Right-wing movements were on the rise, germanys economic model was working, Italy was fascist, mosley would have broke the 2 part system , poland was happy.

The issue is he did pointless infighting. Hitler would have went down as one of the greatest leaders in world history. Europe was in his lap, he didnt need to start a war.

Not really, global dominance sure but they never wanted a total war and were expecting a scenario where there was mostly minor conflict and being able to push for peace via strength after invading poland, obv it failed but because britain decided to totalize the war instead which lead germany to react and become far more dedicated and commited to the war, they had a lot of screw ups when it comes to their diplomacy but a lot of it is mostly based heavily on foresight and not something obvious