If you’re religious, at least among the Semitic few, why don’t you slaughter as many children as you can whilst you’re still alive?

[imontheloose]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

 

[Asiangymmax]

 

[lastredeemer]

If I catch another nigga talking sweet bout chief Keef I’m fucking whooping they ass

 

[Pento]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

Because religion is based moreso on individualism and selfishness. It’s about saving yourself and not really about other. Haven’t you heard religious people say “God will judge them, or I don’t judge”?

Also Muslim extremists have that thinking. “I’ll go blow up myself for Jihad and the rest will be judged by god.”
I’m glad religious people aren’t really think like that, the world would be shit and we wouldn’t have a society.

 

[imontheloose]

Because religion is based moreso on individualism and selfishness. It’s about saving yourself and not really about other. Haven’t you heard religious people say “God will judge them, or I don’t judge”?

Also Muslim extremists have that thinking. “I’ll go blow up myself for Jihad and the rest will be judged by god.”
I’m glad religious people aren’t really think like that, the world would be shit and we wouldn’t have a society.

Yes. It would come down to selfishness, indeed. But surely if you were selfish, you’d not want to help others at all. It seems religion picks and chooses when to be selfish and when not to be.

 

[Copercel]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

That’s a good point

 

[imontheloose]

That’s a good point

Not sure what the counterpoint is. I’m awaiting a “that’s just weird” or a “I only care for myself”.

 

[Copercel]

Not sure what the counterpoint is. I’m awaiting a “that’s just weird” or a “I only care for myself”.

Tbh, in the end, in the reality, it doesn’t matter because we all die and nothing happens afterwards.

 

[Proex]

nigga tf are these anti kid threads

 

[imontheloose]

Tbh, in the end, in the reality, it doesn’t matter because we all die and nothing happens afterwards.

To you, that’s the case; thus you have no care for it understandably.

To religious folk, this is an actual dilemma they should reckon with.

 

[imontheloose]

nigga tf are these anti kid threads

It’s just a coincidence I swear!

 

[Copercel]

To you, that’s the case; thus you have no care for it understandably.

To religious folk, this is an actual dilemma they should reckon with.

That’s why I said “in the reality”.

 

[imontheloose]

That’s why I said “in the reality”.

I understand. I’m just playing Devil’s advocate and noting that no one knows the reality so to them it’s just as real as a unicorn raping me in the bum after I die.

 

[Mess]

Religion is just fallacious dogmatism. It was widely accepted at a time of scientific ignorance, where humans wanted an answer for their unexplained existance. There is no cosmic answer. We were born for the Earth and we will die on the Earth.

 

[imontheloose]

Religion is just fallacious dogmatism. It was widely accepted at a time of scientific ignorance, where humans wanted an answer for their unexplained existance. There is no cosmic answer. We were born for the Earth and we will die on the Earth.

God of the gaps.

 

[nobodylovesme]

Religious copers should just JimJonesMaxx, just convert the kids and go to a utopia together. You don't even need to kill them

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

I have actually thought about this but if I slaughter children their parents might commit self-unmaking and go to hell so then 2 ppl go hell for 1 person to heaven

 

[imontheloose]

I have actually thought about this but if I slaughter children their parents might commit self-unmaking and go to hell so then 2 ppl go hell for 1 person to heaven

Their parents might commit suicide, but one is certainly going to heaven. In the end, you’ll have saved more people than not. Your sacrifice ended in a net positive more likely than not.

And if you assume their parents are religious too, the odds decrease further.

 

[imontheloose]

Religious copers should just JimJonesMaxx, just convert the kids and go to a utopia together. You don't even need to kill them

I totally forgot about that. Insanity. I remember hearing about that when I was a little, bitty boy!

 

[Popstar867]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

If you argue that killing children is justified because they go to heaven, you’ve mistaken outcome for morality. A good result doesn’t make an act good. Intentionally ending an innocent life is still murder, regardless of what you believe happens after death.


You don’t save souls by playing God. Taking innocent life is murder — a sin condemned by God Himself. You don’t override divine commandments to ‘help’ Him. That’s not sacrifice — that’s pride and rebellion. If you truly believe in God’s justice and mercy, then you trust Him to bring souls to heaven without committing evil yourself.




I was quite curious what the reply should be and I asked ChatGPT (I don’t major in theology) for it and it ain’t bad tbh

 

[Popstar867]

Op you should probably ask a knowledgeable religious person not incels (if your curios for a reply) . Maybe YouTube idk

 

[imontheloose]

If you argue that killing children is justified because they go to heaven, you’ve mistaken outcome for morality. A good result doesn’t make an act good. Intentionally ending an innocent life is still murder, regardless of what you believe happens after death.


You don’t save souls by playing God. Taking innocent life is murder — a sin condemned by God Himself. You don’t override divine commandments to ‘help’ Him. That’s not sacrifice — that’s pride and rebellion. If you truly believe in God’s justice and mercy, then you trust Him to bring souls to heaven without committing evil yourself.




I was quite curious what the reply should be and I asked ChatGPT (I don’t major in theology) for it and it ain’t bad tbh

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. ChatGPT has clearly misunderstood that I’m not saying your act is good. I’m saying you will destine yourself for hell by committing evil, yet you are heroically saving X amount of children. It’s a rather virtuous sacrifice.

 

[imontheloose]

Op you should probably ask a knowledgeable religious person not incels (if your curios for a reply) . Maybe YouTube idk

Don’t overestimate what a little incel’s brain can do!

 

[Popstar867]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. ChatGPT has clearly misunderstood that I’m not saying your act is good. I’m saying you will destine yourself for hell by committing evil, yet you are heroically saving X amount of children. It’s a rather virtuous sacrifice.

I asked about morality on the first and actually answering your question on the second

 

[imontheloose]

I asked about morality on the first and actually answering your question on the second

I read it and it’s the same rubbish. You are going against God thus going to hell, but them children are now in heaven. You have sacrificed yourself for the sake of more souls going to heaven.

The only actual argument is that religious people are selfish in this respect.

 

[faivc]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

??

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

Their parents might commit suicide, but one is certainly going to heaven. In the end, you’ll have saved more people than not. Your sacrifice ended in a net positive more likely than not.

And if you assume their parents are religious too, the odds decrease further.

Im not convinced, not worth the risk especially considering I might become nation renowned villain after first kill and my family might commit too, thats 2+2+me= 5 ppl to hell for one baby who probably would have gone heaven anyways (statistically)

 

[imontheloose]

Im not convinced, not worth the risk especially considering I might become nation renowned villain after first kill and my family might commit too, thats 2+2+me= 5 ppl to hell for one baby who probably would have gone heaven anyways (statistically)

Mentioning an obscenity which is probably less likely to happen than a plane hitting you is not how you defend this position.

 

[nobodylovesme]

If church got the ultimate power of the state. Would you think it would be most optimal to have breeding centers creating as many children as possible, then converting them to believe God, and after confession mass slaugher them. Would kinda unhinged system, but at least you would maximize the population and percentage that goes to heaven

This would be the hyper-logical theocratic utilitarianism

 

[imontheloose]

If church got the ultimate power of the state. Would you think it would be most optimal to have breeding centers creating as many children as possible, then converting them to believe God, and after confession mass slaugher them. Would kinda unhinged system, but at least you would maximize the population and percentage that goes to heaven

This would be the hyper-logical theocratic utilitarianism

That’s a pretty good reductio ad absurdum of the argument. I like it. Well, not the process. The argument…

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

Mentioning an obscenity which is probably less likely to happen than a plane hitting you is not how you defend this position.

Alr lets look statistics:

I will probably get 2-3 kills before being aprehended. Thats 2.5 plus
Theres a 2/3 chance for each baby to have achieved heaven even had i not killed so now 1.66 plus
Then im going hell ofc so 0.66 plus.
And there are the 7 potential losses (2.5*2 for children parents and 2 for mine) and lets say that even one of them commits that would leave us with 0.33 net loss (-0.33)

So the potential is about 16+32+50=98% chance of being between 0.33 and 6.33 net loss and 2% chance for 0.66 net gain.
As you can see the losses heavily outweight the gains and I was generous with the statistics. This is also not taking into consideration the fact that its the sin that stains the planet and not the amount of people comitting it.

 

[imontheloose]

Alr lets look statistics:

I will probably get 2-3 kills before being aprehended. Thats 2.5 plus
Theres a 2/3 chance for each baby to have achieved heaven even had i not killed so now 1.66 plus
Then im going hell ofc so 0.66 plus.
And there are the 7 potential losses (2.5*2 for children parents and 2 for mine) and lets say that even one of them commits that would leave us with 0.33 net loss (-0.33)

So the potential is about 16+32+50=98% chance of being between 0.33 and 6.33 net loss and 2% chance for 0.66 net gain.
As you can see the losses heavily outweight the gains and I was generous with the statistics. This is also not taking into consideration the fact that its the sin that stains the planet and not the amount of people comitting it.

You can easily kill much more than 2-3 children. Nonetheless, just imagine you have a breeding factory like @nobodylovesme said.

How is it only 2/3 chance they’re going to heaven? I don’t know where you’re getting this from. All children go to heaven. And you clearly don’t know statistics well enough if you assume the worst case scenario of everyone possible related to you dying as a result is the global reality.

I don’t like your style of debate.

 

[SkiSquadJPG]

You can easily kill much more than 2-3 children. Nonetheless, just imagine you have a breeding factory like @nobodylovesme said.

How is it only 2/3 chance they’re going to heaven? I don’t know where you’re getting this from. All children go to heaven. And you clearly don’t know statistics well enough if you assume the worst case scenario of everyone possible related to you dying as a result is the global reality.

I don’t like your style of debate.

Had you actually read the post you would have realized the 2/3 chance is for the child to go to heaven if I dont kill them

 

[Aladin]

If you believe in a) hell and b) an age of accountability, then why don’t you massacre as many children as you can, liberating them to eternal paradise?

If God has told you killing is wrong, then surely it just makes this even more heroic and virtuous a sacrifice. You go to hell for eternity whilst X amount of children are now in heaven.

Because I don’t want to go to jail.

 

[imontheloose]

Because I don’t want to go to jail.

Come on, pinkwell. You’re not a shy person.

 

[childishkillah]

I will

 

[Aladin]

Come on, pinkwell. You’re not a shy person.

 

[Popstar867]

I read it and it’s the same rubbish. You are going against God thus going to hell, but them children are now in heaven. You have sacrificed yourself for the sake of more souls going to heaven.

The only actual argument is that religious people are selfish in this respect.

I’ll never consider any argument rubbish , the easiest response is that (cop out answer) if you have faith in your god , wouldn’t you know that god judges fairly to everyone . Selfish I disagree , since the whole essence is basically you having faith on god , since you have faith in him you know he won’t judge without reason .