IGF1 LR 3 or CJC1295 + IPA

[ltnsyn]

Simple question
I’m almost 17
Will be on test and tren, but also want something for gh/igf
I would do
20mcg 1st week daily
30mcg 2nd week daily
40mcg 3rd week daily
50 mcg 4th week daily
4-6 week break
for the igf1 lr3
and
100mcg cjc no dac and ipamorelin
3x daily 3 months then 1 month break
both of these for a year straight

Which one is better

 

[idkmanimao]

Simple question
I’m almost 17
Will be on test and tren, but also want something for gh/igf
I would do
20mcg 1st week daily
30mcg 2nd week daily
40mcg 3rd week daily
50 mcg 4th week daily
4-6 week break
for the igf1 lr3
and
100mcg cjc no dac and ipamorelin
3x daily 3 months then 1 month break
both of these for a year straight

Which one is better

only go for a year if you don't like the results you've gotten

 

[Foreverbrad]

Try them both and report back in two years.

 

[idkmanimao]

Simple question
I’m almost 17
Will be on test and tren, but also want something for gh/igf
I would do
20mcg 1st week daily
30mcg 2nd week daily
40mcg 3rd week daily
50 mcg 4th week daily
4-6 week break
for the igf1 lr3
and
100mcg cjc no dac and ipamorelin
3x daily 3 months then 1 month break
both of these for a year straight

Which one is better

also igf-1 LR3 is stronger I would say because it's more potent and a direct stimulas for growth growth+oblast activity/triggers

 

[ltnsyn]

Try them both and report back in two years.

 

[ltnsyn]

also igf-1 LR3 is stronger I would say because it's more potent and a direct stimulas for growth growth+oblast activity/triggers

yeah but idek if my doses are correct and so on (basically have no actual knowledge since i was mainly looking at cjc and ipa for the past months)

 

[idkmanimao]

yeah but idek if my doses are correct and so on (basically have no actual knowledge since i was mainly looking at cjc and ipa for the past months)

A typical IGF-1 LR3 cycle for long-term use like 1 year needs to be carefully periodized to avoid desensitization and manage risks. A moderate and relatively safe protocol is to run 20–40 mcg per day, post-workout on training days only, injected subcutaneously or intramuscularly (IM) near the muscle trained. To prevent receptor downregulation, it’s smart to cycle it in 8–12 week blocks with 4-week breaks in between. Over the year, that gives you 3–4 on-cycles, each with proper rest periods. Beginners often start at 20 mcg/day for the first cycle, then bump to 30–40 mcg/day in later cycles if no sides occur. Always take it alone or with low-dose insulin or GH if advanced, and pair with high-protein nutrition (at least 1g/lb of bodyweight) to maximize its anabolic potential. Stay hydrated, monitor for signs of hypoglycemia or bloating, and avoid daily use non-stop for a full year that leads to diminished effects. Bloodwork (IGF-1, fasting glucose, etc.) every 8–12 weeks is highly recommended to track health and adjust dosing if needed.

 

[NoaA99]

also igf-1 LR3 is stronger I would say because it's more potent and a direct stimulas for growth growth+oblast activity/triggers

It’s incredibly expensive, and the research isn’t very advanced yet.
What’s his goal? Is he aiming for local/paracrine effects, or does he just want to avoid the side effects related to blood sugar increase?
He should just go for regular Hgh, which is incredibly potent alongside roids.

 

[idkmanimao]

It’s incredibly expensive, and the research isn’t very advanced yet.
What’s his goal? Is he aiming for local/paracrine effects, or does he just want to avoid the side effects related to blood sugar increase?
He should just go for regular Hgh, which is incredibly potent alongside roids.

no igf-1 LR3 isn't imao, really not that expensive...

 

[ltnsyn]

no igf-1 LR3 isn't imao, really not that expensive...

it’s quite cheap actually

 

[ltnsyn]

It’s incredibly expensive, and the research isn’t very advanced yet.
What’s his goal? Is he aiming for local/paracrine effects, or does he just want to avoid the side effects related to blood sugar increase?
He should just go for regular Hgh, which is incredibly potent alongside roids.

I don’t wanna deal with potentially becoming a diabetic
My goal is just slightly better/denser bones (mostly mandible as I know that can still be altered at my age)

 

[NoaA99]

it’s quite cheap actually

I only know a handful of reputable sources, and it usually costs around 300–400€ for a 2 to 4-week supply. It really depends, but to me, that is quite a lot, depending on his goal.
If you desire further height growth, I doubt there is much potential for most at 17-18.


Maybe it’s cheaper if you source from China, but then the question is whether what you receive is actually what you ordered. I bought from a fairly large supplier there, and when I tested my IGF-1 levels afterward, they remained moderate.

 

[ltnsyn]

I only know a handful of reputable sources, and it usually costs around 300–400€ for a 2 to 4-week supply. It really depends, but to me, that is quite a lot, depending on his goal.
If you desire further height growth, I doubt there is much potential for most at 17-18.


Maybe it’s cheaper if you source from China, but then the question is whether what you receive is actually what you ordered. I bought from a fairly large supplier there, and when I tested my IGF-1 levels afterward, they remained moderate.

shanghai sigma audley has their vials tested by janoshik and 10mg costs 170 usd
i could also get a 1mg vial tested myself tbh

 

[NoaA99]

I don’t wanna deal with potentially becoming a diabetic
My goal is just slightly better/denser bones (mostly mandible as I know that can still be altered at my age)

I see, yeah, the mandible can potentially be altered, but not by much unless you really abuse Hgh over several years. In that case, IGF-1 LR3 might be effective, since the main issue with Hgh is that it doesn’t easily enter target tissue cells. This may increases the risk of unwanted organ growth if HGH remains elevated in the bloodstream.

 

[ltnsyn]

I see, yeah, the mandible can potentially be altered, but not by much unless you really abuse Hgh over several years. In that case, IGF-1 LR3 might be effective, since the main issue with Hgh is that it doesn’t easily enter target tissue cells. This may increases the risk of unwanted organ growth if HGH remains elevated in the bloodstream.

think my cycle is good enough though, or should I go for higher doses

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Simple question
I’m almost 17
Will be on test and tren, but also want something for gh/igf
I would do
20mcg 1st week daily
30mcg 2nd week daily
40mcg 3rd week daily
50 mcg 4th week daily
4-6 week break
for the igf1 lr3
and
100mcg cjc no dac and ipamorelin
3x daily 3 months then 1 month break
both of these for a year straight

Which one is better

Igf-1 neither will help with looks just muscle gain and igf-1 can build a shit ton

 

[jeff1234]

Simple question
I’m almost 17
Will be on test and tren, but also want something for gh/igf
I would do
20mcg 1st week daily
30mcg 2nd week daily
40mcg 3rd week daily
50 mcg 4th week daily
4-6 week break
for the igf1 lr3
and
100mcg cjc no dac and ipamorelin
3x daily 3 months then 1 month break
both of these for a year straight

Which one is better

HGH.

 

[ltnsyn]

HGH.

costs more and igf1 sounds better

 

[jeff1234]

costs more and igf1 sounds better

IGF-1 is not better.

 

[NoaA99]

shanghai sigma audley has their vials tested by janoshik and 10mg costs 170 usd
i could also get a 1mg vial tested myself tbh

This is exactly the source I’m referring to. I’ve had a poor experience with him and even got bloodwork done to check. Being 26, I didn’t expect much, but I did aim for some improvements in bone density.


I have very small, delicate bones (and height for that matter) unlike the rest of my family, and there have been several related issues, starting with severely low birth weight as a twin. This likely contributed to my present intestinal problems, hormone deficiencies, thyroid issues, and a severe, undiagnosed (or rather ignored) iron deficiency.


Recently, before my exams, I did extensive research on how to slightly improve bone health even at my age. Turns out it’s really complicated, multifaceted, and incredibly difficult without some form of surgical intervention.
So, do your research beforehand. Hgh without prior bloodwork, but I assume you already got that done.

 

[ltnsyn]

IGF-1 is not better.

how so

 

[jeff1234]

how so

Between cjc + ipamorelin and IGF-1 lr3, cjc and ipamorelin is better.

IGF-1 is not researched enough to know what sides and long-term sides it can give you.

And cjc + ipamorelin is way better since it helps with things that IGF-1 lr3 doesn’t, like fat loss, sleep, mood cognition, skin quality, hair.

IGF-1 lr3 is hard to dose and risky when you run it by itself. Cjc + ipamorelin is way easier to dose and way cheaper.
You can barely find pure IGF-1 lr3, it’s all misdosed.
Also when you are on test or any steroids, IGF-lr3 is useless, get either HGH or cjc + ipamorelin if you’re low on budget.