im 15 using test eq and primo

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is this the method or no and im going to descend in 3 years
 
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train natty and use only hgh and ai, I doubt you're doing blood tests and using ancillaries, stop.
 
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How much EQ? Can make your blood like slush ice if overdone jfl
Also, can i get dosage for each compound and ester?

Just curious, but mirin lwk
 
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FutureSlayer said:
train natty and use only hgh and ai, I doubt you're doing blood tests and using ancillaries, stop.
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ancillaries? also I’m getting my blood checked soon. dad said no to ai and hgh idk why. when I asked abt it he called me a insecure loser
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FutureSlayer said:
no way this retard is your dad lmao
drop those steroids and go cop some hgh, you're running out of time
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ive been telling him to prescribe me hgh hes jsut rlly stubborn abt it. i tell him everyday it just doesnt matter😕 also i turned 15 in august so its okay
 
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aids said:
Basically every AAS increases erythropoiesis bruh.
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Thats true but a very stupid take since he's using EQ.
Using 500 test or more is nowhere near, as using +400 EQ when talking about erythropoiesis JFL
 
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lithesteps said:
ive been telling him to prescribe me hgh hes jsut rlly stubborn abt it. i tell him everyday it just doesnt matter😕 also i turned 15 in august so its okay
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it's not okay at all dude:feelskek: but that's your life and it's going to be hell if you don't act now
 
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ChristianMarius said:
Thats true but a very stupid take since he's using EQ.
Using 500 test or more is nowhere near, as using +400 EQ when talking about erythropoiesis JFL
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Just blatantly wrong JFL.
The only data on EPO with EQ use, is on animals.
Either way, feel free to explain why it's any different / promotes EPO MORE than test does.
 
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Youre not getting hgh precribed,that shit is next to impossible
Use some cialis, some blood thinning too if youre worried about a stroke
 
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EQ is a great compound just donate blood every few months or so. HGH if you can get it would make the largest impact to your life long-term compared to any of these. Hurry up and buy it before youre stuck a manlet.
Buy HGH on grey market, is expensive though.
 
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aids said:
Just blatantly wrong JFL.
The only data on EPO with EQ use, is on animals.
Either way, feel free to explain why it's any different / promotes EPO MORE than test does.
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EQ raises hemoglobin more than testosterone because it boosts erythropoietin harder and aromatizes less, also has a higher half life which can be a problem if the cycle is bad designed.

Data around EPO with EQ use is indeed based on animals, but it would be stupid not to think it could work the same way with you, just because theres no data on humans. If you just cancel out potentiel side effects because theres not any directly HUMAN studies about it, you either dont care about health or just a moron jfl

A lot of people i know personally, aswell as on forums can clearly see a worsening when using EQ, this is also the reason no person with experience or coaches that designes cycles would ever do very high EQ usage without being more alert and carefull
 
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ChristianMarius said:
EQ raises hemoglobin more than testosterone because it boosts erythropoietin harder and aromatizes less, also has a higher half life which can be a problem if the cycle is bad designed.

Data around EPO with EQ use is indeed based on animals, but it would be stupid not to think it could work the same way with you, just because theres no data on humans. If you just cancel out potentiel side effects because theres not any directly HUMAN studies about it, you either dont care about health or just a moron jfl

A lot of people i know personally, aswell as on forums can clearly see a worsening when using EQ, this is also the reason no person with experience or coaches that designes cycles would ever do very high EQ usage without being more alert and carefull
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Show me a study of testosterone and boldenone (not necessarily adjacent) and their effects on EPO.
Two studies, ceteris paribus, testosterone in one, boldenone in the other.
The issue is because of the ester, yes, not EQ itself.
 
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aids said:
Show me a study of testosterone and boldenone (not necessarily adjacent) and their effects on EPO.
Two studies, ceteris paribus, testosterone in one, boldenone in the other.
The issue is because of the ester, yes, not EQ itself.
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It's an invalid request because no ceteris paribus human data exist, boldenone hasn't been studied like testosterone, and legal status makes a true comparison which you are asking me for impossible. You know that though i'm sure, so keep reading.

From what we do know, both stimulate erythropoiesis and when used in practice EQ's long-acting ester (as you mentioned), but also weaker aromatization makes it far more likely than testosterone to drive high red bloodcells and hematocrit levels - a causality that, even without formal science, is consistently observed in the bodybuilding world.

If you found a mushroom and gave it to a horse and it died, and everyone else who tried it also died (humans), would you eat it just because there are no formal studies proving it kills humans, only horses? No JFL. When science is lacking, real world observation matters, especially when the majority shows a consistent effect.

I get what you’re trying to do by saying “in theory, blah blah,” but this isn’t a lab test, it’s advice for an 15 years old. Don’t give guidance that no one else would follow (not even guidence, just contradictory to healthy advice), just because it doesn’t fit neatly into your science bubble.
 
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ChristianMarius said:
It's an invalid request because no ceteris paribus human data exist, boldenone hasn't been studied like testosterone, and legal status makes a true comparison which you are asking me for impossible. You know that though i'm sure, so keep reading.

From what we do know, both stimulate erythropoiesis and when used in practice EQ's long-acting ester (as you mentioned), but also weaker aromatization makes it far more likely than testosterone to drive high red bloodcells and hematocrit levels - a causality that, even without formal science, is consistently observed in the bodybuilding world.

If you found a mushroom and gave it to a horse and it died, and everyone else who tried it also died (humans), would you eat it just because there are no formal studies proving it kills humans, only horses? No JFL. When science is lacking, real world observation matters, especially when the majority shows a consistent effect.

I get what you’re trying to do by saying “in theory, blah blah,” but this isn’t a lab test, it’s advice for an 15 years old. Don’t give guidance that no one else would follow (not even guidence, just contradictory to healthy advice), just because it doesn’t fit neatly into your science bubble.
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Point is that anecdotes are for and against.
There are anecdotes like this (high test does worse):

And then there are anecdotes like this:

EQ/Boldenone

A paper I came across. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29148625/ Interesting what happened when they added boldenone to the mix. It's one of the AAS that's a high ROS generator. Certainly doesn't appear to be renal friendly.
www.theironden.com

Either way, without literature, it's a guessing game, should OP have ancillaries on hand? Yes, absolutely, but he should obviously verify if he is hypertensive from EQ use first.
 
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aids said:
Point is that anecdotes are for and against.
There are anecdotes like this (high test does worse):

And then there are anecdotes like this:

EQ/Boldenone

A paper I came across. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29148625/ Interesting what happened when they added boldenone to the mix. It's one of the AAS that's a high ROS generator. Certainly doesn't appear to be renal friendly.
www.theironden.com

Either way, without literature, it's a guessing game, should OP have ancillaries on hand? Yes, absolutely, but he should obviously verify if he is hypertensive from EQ use first.
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Fully agree
 
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aids said:
Point is that anecdotes are for and against.
There are anecdotes like this (high test does worse):

And then there are anecdotes like this:

EQ/Boldenone

A paper I came across. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29148625/ Interesting what happened when they added boldenone to the mix. It's one of the AAS that's a high ROS generator. Certainly doesn't appear to be renal friendly.
www.theironden.com

Either way, without literature, it's a guessing game, should OP have ancillaries on hand? Yes, absolutely, but he should obviously verify if he is hypertensive from EQ use first.
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what do i do if im hypertensive from eq and what is ancillaries
 
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