I’m 5 foot 4 (162 cm) what should I genuinely do, should I rope ?

Embrace your height and just be attractive
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
don't rope it's not over
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
Based on how you wrote this message I think the best thing for you is to find enjoyment in life apart from your looks. Grind for a career you enjoy, find friends go out. Just becuase you don’t get the attention from women doent mean you life is over. And who knows maybe you could find a partner. Please don’t rope
 
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I actually appreciate this, it knocked some sense into me. much love

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I actually appreciate this, it knocked some sense into me. much love SORRY i made this to long jfl
Good that’s what I intended but seriously I understand why you’re frustrated. I have attempted roping before and I understand in the moment you feel like it’s worth it but fucking trust me bro it’s genuinely never worth it. What really helped for me was getting off social media and changing my environment and a few months later I couldn’t even comprehend the idea of doing it. If you’re really all out book a trip travel by yourself if you have no one. I went to the Philippines and stayed in a small bamboo hut in these fucking beautiful mountains and I would explore the land and climb coconut trees for water and buy cheap healthy food every day and I’m telling you it completely changed me. I saw how poor farmers live and how humble they are under zero stress and guess what they couldn’t give a fuck about how they look and that’s how it is for most of the world. Do you know how much of a fucking privilege it is to want to kill yourself because you’re not happy with your height while you have a roof over your head food on the table and access to free education. Whether you rope or not is your choice but I’m telling you if you do what you want and not what people around you want and not care about the judgment you will live a nice life it is a huge world out there my friend I’m currently saving to buy myself a sailing boat and travel the world with it hahahaha life is about living not what other fags think.
 
Good that’s what I intended but seriously I understand why you’re frustrated. I have attempted roping before and I understand in the moment you feel like it’s worth it but fucking trust me bro it’s genuinely never worth it. What really helped for me was getting off social media and changing my environment and a few months later I couldn’t even comprehend the idea of doing it. If you’re really all out book a trip travel by yourself if you have no one. I went to the Philippines and stayed in a small bamboo hut in these fucking beautiful mountains and I would explore the land and climb coconut trees for water and buy cheap healthy food every day and I’m telling you it completely changed me. I saw how poor farmers live and how humble they are under zero stress and guess what they couldn’t give a fuck about how they look and that’s how it is for most of the world. Do you know how much of a fucking privilege it is to want to kill yourself because you’re not happy with your height while you have a roof over your head food on the table and access to free education. Whether you rope or not is your choice but I’m telling you if you do what you want and not what people around you want and not care about the judgment you will live a nice life it is a huge world out there my friend I’m currently saving to buy myself a sailing boat and travel the world with it hahahaha life is about living not what other fags think.
thanks for this, that’s definitely true and exactly how I used to think as well. I’m not sure what happened recently but all that went out the window and I became depressed because of this shit. Once I graduate I might book a solo trip somewhere as well thank you so much for your tips man.
Fuck everything I’ll just try to live a good life
 
thanks for this, that’s definitely true and exactly how I used to think as well. I’m not sure what happened recently but all that went out the window and I became depressed because of this shit. Once I graduate I might book a solo trip somewhere as well thank you so much for your tips man.
Fuck everything I’ll just try to live a good life
Good on you man go live a wonderful beautiful life🥺
 
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Start saving up and limb lenghten both bones for 15 cm and you'll be saved.
 
Why would you ever rope because of your height. Just go to a third World shithole and marry some local traditional muslim ltb. Make sure to feed your Kids primal if you don't want them to end up even shorter then you tho
 
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average height here is 176, so even after LL ill be below average, genetics are so brutal
dude just get cosmetic surgery and don't fucking rope you autist, I believe in you, don't be a pussy and go hardmax. Make your parents proud you whore
 
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I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
get LL to 5,8 then try to get a 5,8 woman to reproduce with so your kid can be like average height
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
i’m genuinely sorry bro nobody deserves this just focus on what makes you happy and worry more about looks than height you got this bro
 
Well obviously like if you're super artistic and you wanna spend two hundred K in the year of your life, you could gain another four inches.

Like it's gonna be harder to have a ton of girls like you, but if you're confident as fuck and funny as fuck and rich and have a nice social circle and do some shit where people admire you a lot, and obviously work in your physique, like you could still snag some girls.

Legit this guy has a wife and kids. Its not over.

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you can do tibia followed by femur lengthening and get 16cm end result of 178cm
 
is going turkey worth it?
Aren't the risks higher?
IN INDIA THERE IS A LEGIT GOOD SURGEON NAMED DR.PARIHAR FAMOUS ON LL FORUMS HE BEEN TRAINED UNDER PALEY SAVE SUM MONEY AND GET IT DONE WITH HIM IF U WANT OR GO WITH WESTERN SURGEONS IF U CAN AFFORD
 
Despite everyone telling you to get LL, I think you should save as much as possible and spend it on face surgeries and try and become as facially goodlooking as possible

Being a 5’4 HTN would most definitely reap better positive reinforcement than a 5’8 MLTN as you claim you are, and it’s also 1/3 of the price with a way way faster recovery period
 
Despite everyone telling you to get LL, I think you should save as much as possible and spend it on face surgeries and try and become as facially goodlooking as possible

Being a 5’4 HTN would most definitely reap better positive reinforcement than a 5’8 MLTN as you claim you are, and it’s also 1/3 of the price with a way way faster recovery period
Don’t think HTN is achievable with my base could I send you a pic and you give advice?
 
IN INDIA THERE IS A LEGIT GOOD SURGEON NAMED DR.PARIHAR FAMOUS ON LL FORUMS HE BEEN TRAINED UNDER PALEY SAVE SUM MONEY AND GET IT DONE WITH HIM IF U WANT OR GO WITH WESTERN SURGEONS IF U CAN AFFORD
He doesn’t do precice does he? I heard he only does LON?
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
its ok i have 5.4 friends with loving girlfriends never LDAR
 
Arranged married wtf you mean?, an australian white or an egyptian with passport?, I have a similar dilemma but not as cooked as you on both sides.

I would do face first and considering that LL will take you from manlet to manlet, I rather look good first to avoid rope

btw if it’s an australian white please rope and stop polluting.
 
Don’t think HTN is achievable with my base could I send you a pic and you give advice?
Do you genuinely think your life is going to meaningfully change being a 5’8 LTN rather than a 5’4 LTN? with all due respect. Face is law
 
Arranged married wtf you mean?, an australian white or an egyptian with passport?, I have a similar dilemma but not as cooked as you on both sides.

I would do face first and considering that LL will take you from manlet to manlet, I rather look good first to avoid rope

btw if it’s an australian white please rope and stop polluting.
Wait what? I’m Egyptian but grown up in Australia so I have an Australian passport.
 
Do you genuinely think your life is going to meaningfully change being a 5’8 LTN rather than a 5’4 LTN? with all due respect. Face is law
If I send you a pic can you recommend hardmaxxes? I already have some stuff planned like fat grafting, mandiular implant, canthoplasty,
 
Do you genuinely think your life is going to meaningfully change being a 5’8 LTN rather than a 5’4 LTN? with all due respect. Face is law
If you look at dating apps, a 5’8 man gets filtered out way way less
 
Well obviously like if you're super artistic and you wanna spend two hundred K in the year of your life, you could gain another four inches.

Like it's gonna be harder to have a ton of girls like you, but if you're confident as fuck and funny as fuck and rich and have a nice social circle and do some shit where people admire you a lot, and obviously work in your physique, like you could still snag some girls.

Legit this guy has a wife and kids. Its not over.

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Thanks for the hope ❤️
I’m NT afaik
 
Thanks for the hope ❤️
I’m NT afaik
Bro, honestly you got this, like There's a ton of shit you can do. You can arbitrage to move to countries where your height isn't crazy. you could have the best physique in the world that's literally one hundred percent in your control. Honestly being shorter, it's way easier to look buffer. Don't get on roids and lose your hair.
 
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method is get arranged marriage to a super tall chick or just adopt a kid with good potential to carry on your name
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
Ggs bro 1 all the way sometimes it is over
 
just average out how happy the average day will be for the rest of your life and if it's above sleeping or not, if you deep within your heart think the average moment of the rest of your life will be below not existing, then telling you to stay around is simply selfish and just "feels right" because death sounds scary, imagine sitting in a garden neutral temperature, not a single ache or pain, no hunger no thirst and zero thoughts, that's what death actually is, it doesn't get better for most people is the sad reality
 
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Be a real man and kill yourself pussy
No real point to rope atm, I’ll try to get an arranged marriage first if that somehow doesn’t work that’s when roping comes
 
No real point to rope atm, I’ll try to get an arranged marriage first if that somehow doesn’t work that’s when roping comes
And what birth some other disgusting short children think about your family now you will condemn generations of children with incel rage because your a selfish fag who just wants to stick his dick into soemthing
 
And what birth some other disgusting short children think about your family now you will condemn generations of children with incel rage because your a selfish fag who just wants to stick his dick into soemthing
When did I say I’d have children ?
 
When did I say I’d have children ?
Your in an arranged marriage your going to have children unless your an infertile incel
 
Your in an arranged marriage your going to have children unless your an infertile incel
I can just choose to not have kids?

And even if i want to I’ll just adopt or something. And if not that, if the kids mother is above average height maternal height plays a big role in height, the kid will end up being average height.

Why are you guys so persistent on wanting people to rope
 
I can just choose to not have kids?

And even if i want to I’ll just adopt or something. And if not that, if the kids mother is above average height maternal height plays a big role in height, the kid will end up being average height.

Why are you guys so persistent on wanting people to rope
Love of the game mostly
 
IN INDIA THERE IS A LEGIT GOOD SURGEON NAMED DR.PARIHAR FAMOUS ON LL FORUMS HE BEEN TRAINED UNDER PALEY SAVE SUM MONEY AND GET IT DONE WITH HIM IF U WANT OR GO WITH WESTERN SURGEONS IF U CAN AFFORD
He'd be better off roping then going to some scam artist in india.
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
There's always hope for us bro don't rope
 
Despite everyone telling you to get LL, I think you should save as much as possible and spend it on face surgeries and try and become as facially goodlooking as possible

Being a 5’4 HTN would most definitely reap better positive reinforcement than a 5’8 MLTN as you claim you are, and it’s also 1/3 of the price with a way way faster recovery period

Having a good face card will only get him clowned further. He needs both the limb lenghtening and face surgeries.

He needs to be atleast 5'8 MMTN to be able to live a good life.

Lock the fuck in bro
 
I’m literally a turbomanlet, I don’t think it’s even worth it to LM at this height. I could get LL and become 5”8 but I don’t think my frame is good enough, and even if it was I doubt I will ever be able to afford it.

I’m Egyptian living in Australia, I could always arranged marriage max, do you think it’s worth it? I’ve honestly given up on everything this height is so brutal. I could always rope but I want to help out my parents financially, I might just wait for them to die then rope, wageslave to help them.

My growth plates closed at 15, I’m also somewhat recessed, probably a MLTN facially.

Also brutal cause I wanted to have kids, but reproducing at this height is inhumane.

Every girl I’ve talked to was fine when they saw my face but as soon as I say my height they stop talking to me.

At least I have friends, but honestly BP has made me lose a lot of them. Ever since I realised it’s turbo over because of my height I’ve just been staying indoors and rejecting plans with them. I realised that when they are settling down with kids, and a wife I’ll be alone because I’m a turbomanlet.

At least I’m somewhat smart, I could probably become a lawyer, but wtf is the point of money without having a wife or a family.


Should I

1. Rope
2. Get an arranged marriage, with an Australian passport I could probably get a decent looking girl (scared the wife might resent me)
3. Just give up and wageslave for my parents and rope when they die
4. Try to save up for LL ( I don’t even know if this is an option, cause I don’t think ill make enough, and even if I do how tf will I take months off work just for the surgery)
geomaxx to thailand
 
Having a good face card will only get him clowned further. He needs both the limb lenghtening and face surgeries.

He needs to be atleast 5'8 MMTN to be able to live a good life.

Lock the fuck in bro
LL is so fucking expensive bro it might be over, parents don’t even own a home:feelswah:
 
height is a significant factor no doubt, but calling it "turbo over" is cope. ur facial structure is mltn like you said, that's a bigger drag than 5'4". arranged marriage is a gamble with resentment potential, and ll is a pipe dream financially and recovery-wise. focus on what u can control: facial softmax, maybe some mild jaw surgery if u ever get the cash, but tbh, getting off social media and building some real-life experience and lore is the only actual path away from that suicidal mindset.
 

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