im actually a philosopher

[unkownincel]

Im always thinking about life, i make up my own quotes which are high iq

@foidletslayer

 

[foidletslayer]

Im always thinking about life, i make up my own quotes which are high iq

@foidletslayer

Make me a quote rn & do u know what the prefix -ism stands for?

 

[ikramy]

You can’t even make free choices

 

[unkownincel]

refix -ism stands for

a belief

 

[unkownincel]

BTW it comes naturally in the back of class

 

[foidletslayer]

a belief

Correct, thoughts on free will conceptually?

 

[unkownincel]

Correct, thoughts on free will conceptually?

we all have free will

consequences affect what you do with it.

even with a gun to your head u have a choice

 

[foidletslayer]

we all have free will

consequences affect what you do with it.

even with a gun to your head u have a choice

What shapes free will

 

[unkownincel]

What shapes free will

Sorry, i dont understand. Ig im not a philosopher

 

[Sink]

Im always thinking about life, i make up my own quotes which are high iq

@foidletslayer

at the end of the day we all come up with concepts and quotes that already exist because unfortunately we're not special, we just have a rare thinking style compared to the average person

 

[Sink]

What shapes free will

free will doesn't really exist in my opinion, because you do not really like something because you genuinely like it, but rather because your brain chemistry was leaning towards that option on it's own

 

[foidletslayer]

free will doesn't really exist in my opinion, because you do not really like something because you genuinely like it, but rather because your brain chemistry was leaning towards that option on it's own

What ur explaining isn’t free will as a concept or act

 

[Sink]

What ur explaining isn’t free will as a concept or act

yeah that is my point, what people call '‘free will’' is just the brain’s predetermined tendencies playing out, The concept exists, but the underlying freedom doesn’t.

 

[lucifer88]

youre a fucking moron poser who knows nothing about philosophy please shut up, i liked u until this

 

[lucifer88]

What ur explaining isn’t free will as a concept or act

what a fucking moron he is

 

[lucifer88]

genuinely

 

[unkownincel]

youre a fucking moron poser who knows nothing about philosophy please shut up, i liked u until this

it was satrical?

 

[lucifer88]

it was satrical?

i hope so brotatocel

 

[foidletslayer]

yeah that is my point, what people call '‘free will’' is just the brain’s predetermined tendencies playing out, The concept exists, but the underlying freedom doesn’t.

That’s mechanism. Free will is the ability of an agent to make choices that are genuinely their own, not fully determined by external circumstances or internal necessity, such that alternative actions remain possible. A person who has a conscious possesses free will btw

 

[foidletslayer]

youre a fucking moron poser who knows nothing about philosophy please shut up, i liked u until this

You also know nothing of philosophy stop larping

 

[Klasik616]

free will doesn't really exist in my opinion, because you do not really like something because you genuinely like it, but rather because your brain chemistry was leaning towards that option on it's own

So your brain isn't you, so who are you

 

[lucifer88]

You also know nothing of philosophy stop larping

im not fucking larping you fuck nigger ive been studying for multiple years jfl

 

[lucifer88]

th

So your brain isn't you, so who's you

is dudd

 

[Sub5kang]

Make me a quote rn & do u know what the prefix -ism stands for?

Isn't ism a suffix since you add it to the end of the word? And it doesn't stand for anything, not an acronym just a suffix for and doctrines or systems

 

[Sub5kang]

What shapes free will

The individual which is further shaped by culture and behaviour which is based on luck and spawnpoint

 

[foidletslayer]

im not fucking larping you fuck nigger ive been studying for multiple years jfl

Sure you have, explain to me individualism & until u provide proof for that ur a larp

 

[Sub5kang]

im not fucking larping you fuck nigger ive been studying for multiple years jfl

I'm know nothing of philosophy I study psychology

 

[foidletslayer]

Isn't ism a suffix since you add it to the end of the word? And it doesn't stand for anything, not an acronym just a suffix for and doctrines or systems

I confuse suffixs and prefixes a lot

 

[Sink]

That’s mechanism. Free will is the ability of an agent to make choices that are genuinely their own, not fully determined by external circumstances or internal necessity, such that alternative actions remain possible. A person who has a conscious possesses free will btw

That definition assumes the persons choices are genuinely their own. My point is that the feeling of '‘genuine’' choice doesn’t prove the choice wasn’t determined by internal necessity. If your preferences, tendencies, and decision-making patterns all come from brain structure, chemistry, and prior causes, then the alternatives never actually stood a real chance. Consciousness doesn’t grant freedom, it just gives us awareness of decisions that were already shaped by internal conditions.

 

[lucifer88]

I'm know nothing of philosophy I study psychology

i mirin ur studies too brah, human mind really is amazing to know about

 

[foidletslayer]

I'm know nothing of philosophy I study psychology

Thoughts on relativism?

 

[Sub5kang]

I confuse suffixs and prefixes a lot

Ah well what helped me when I was learning as a kid is "pre" means prior as in before so it just logically made more sense to be before the word and through an educated guess suffix will be at the end

 

[lucifer88]

xd

 

[Sink]

So your brain isn't you, so who's you

The brain is me, but that doesn’t mean the '‘me’' is free. My identity is still built from biology and conditions I didn’t control, so the chooser exists but the choices aren’t self-created

 

[Sub5kang]

Thoughts on relativism?

Fact of life, nothing is always set in stone, even 2+2 equating to 4 can be questioned

 

[Klasik616]

im not fucking larping you fuck nigger ive been studying for multiple years jfl

What authors

The individual which is further shaped by culture and behaviour which is based on luck and spawnpoint

So the individual doesn't exist only a collective or group

Ah well what helped me when I was learning as a kid is "pre" means prior as in before so it just logically made more sense to be before the word and through an educated guess suffix will be at the end

"Ism" means movement, moving.

The brain is me, but that doesn’t mean the '‘me’' is free. My identity is still built from biology and conditions I didn’t control, so the chooser exists but the choices aren’t self-created

You contradicted yourself, based on your opinion a chooser doesn't exist. Your body is a machine. "Chooser" means an entity with free will that's cappable of doing things with the beings around him, it's a subject not an object. You just decided to reply, you could have dediced not to. Denying free will is you trying to avoid responsability, inmoral.

 

[Sub5kang]

So the individual doesn't exist only a collective or group

And behaviour, which is again influenced by culture and upbringing so technically yes, noone is their own person

"Ism" means movement, moving.

You sure you didn't reply to the wrong thing? I was explaining how I learnt to differentiate suffixes from prefixes I'm seeing no correlation

 

[foidletslayer]

That definition assumes the persons choices are genuinely their own. My point is that the feeling of '‘genuine’' choice doesn’t prove the choice wasn’t determined by internal necessity. If your preferences, tendencies, and decision-making patterns all come from brain structure, chemistry, and prior causes, then the alternatives never actually stood a real chance. Consciousness doesn’t grant freedom, it just gives us awareness of decisions that were already shaped by internal conditions.

While it’s true that our brain, tendencies, and prior causes shape choices, I’m arguing that (Dennett agrees with) freedom is about acting according to one’s deliberation and desires, not the absence of causal influence. Conscious awareness and the ability to reason, reflect, and act on values constitute a meaningful form of free will, even if the choices are influenced by prior conditions. So determinism does not logically negate genuine freedom

 

[lucifer88]

What authors

So the individual doesn't exist only a collective or group

"Ism" means movement, moving.

You contradicted yourself, based on your opinion a chooser doesn't exist. Your body is a machine. "Chooser" means an entity with free will that's cappable of doing things with the beings around him, it's a subject not an object. You just decided to reply, you could have dediced not to. Denying free will is you trying to avoid responsability, inmoral.

guess who my favorite is, ill give you a hint, he haves a huge mustache

 

[foidletslayer]

Fact of life, nothing is always set in stone, even 2+2 equating to 4 can be questioned

I disagree

 

[Sink]

You contradicted yourself, based on your opinion a chooser doesn't exist. Your body is a machine. "Chooser" means an entity with free will that's cappable of doing things with the beings around him, it's a subject not an object. You just decided to reply, you could have dediced not to.

I’m not contradicting myself, I’m saying the '‘chooser’' is the brain. When I say choices aren’t free, I’m not saying choices don’t happen, i’m saying they’re the output of a physical system aka your brain, with certain wiring, chemistry, and tendencies

A machine can still act, respond, and interact with the world. What it can’t do is choose independent of the mechanisms that generate its behavior. So the chooser exists, it’s just not a separate free-floating entity, it’s the brain’s deterministic processes acting as a unified subject

 

[Klasik616]

And behaviour, which is again influenced by culture and upbringing so technically yes, noone is their own person

You sure you didn't reply to the wrong thing? I was explaining how I learnt to differentiate suffixes from prefixes I'm seeing no correlation

I think behavior is entirely social but every individual has their own style, everyone chooses how to be in certain moments. There are exceptions to the rule, even in environments that tell you how you should behave.

guess who my favorite is, ill give you a hint, he haves a huge mustache

 

[Sub5kang]

I disagree

That's why it's philosophy and not fact, debate of opinions

 

[foidletslayer]

That's why it's philosophy and not fact, debate of opinions

I can objectively prove that 2+2=4 therefore effectively refuting radical relativism

 

[Sub5kang]

I can objectively prove that 2+2=4 therefore effectively refuting radical relativism

Fair enough but maths is too objective for a concept like relativism, imo it has more real world applications

 

[Klasik616]

I’m not contradicting myself, I’m saying the '‘chooser’' is the brain. When I say choices aren’t free, I’m not saying choices don’t happen, i’m saying they’re the output of a physical system aka your brain, with certain wiring, chemistry, and tendencies

A machine can still act, respond, and interact with the world. What it can’t do is choose independent of the mechanisms that generate its behavior. So the chooser exists, it’s just not a separate free-floating entity, it’s the brain’s deterministic processes acting as a unified subject

A brain cannot choose, objects can't choose. Only an individual is able to choose, and this is the subject which is obviously affected by your brain but your personality depends on the experiences you had through your entire life, so when the "brain" chooses the brain is you. A subject is able to retain, replace and add information with his free will and own judgment, there isn't a rule. The machine doesn't interact with the world, a human sets the machine to move with another objects. I can decide wether to think about this answer or just rage. The brain is my weapon, not me.

 

[Klasik616]

I can objectively prove that 2+2=4 therefore effectively refuting radical relativism

The truth of math relies in our logical brain.

 

[foidletslayer]

The truth of math relies in our logical brain.

do you believe that logic exists before humans and that we discovered it or otherwise?

 

[Klasik616]

do you believe that logic exists before humans and that we discovered it or otherwise?

Before humans or before the world was created.

 

[foidletslayer]

Before humans or before the world was created.

What I asked in my last post