I’m leaving for bimax with pagnoni in ~1 week

[richcel]

Looks like its missing paranasal implants

I’ll probably go for a second round of implants once I’m fully healed, I’ll get jaw angles supras and paranasal implants (maybe even some hind of nasion augmentation)

 

[richcel]

did you have pre ortho treatment?

Nah only shitty American surgeons or deformed cases require that

 

[Localcat12345]

It’s 35,000 euro for bimax genio and infras. I’m leaving on the 8th of June and will see him on the 9th for a checkup and on the 11th I will get the surgery. I might post before and after a here but here is my 3d surgical plan

Can I dm you in private about this?

 

[LEFORT17]

Nah only shitty American surgeons or deformed cases require that

wouldnt say so

 

[puniteking]

Are they saddle or not ? If not they might look bad on you bro

 

[eyebagcel]

been hearing pagnoni been botching alot of ppl lately

good luck

i read somewhere on this forum that giants designs his implants now.. maybe that’s why

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

Who is "we" you're a greycel with a negative rep ratio that joined in 2025

bro joined 2 months earlier

 

[genetically fucked]

bro joined 2 months earlier

i deleted my old account so kys retard but i wasnt even implying i was og here LMFAO

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

i deleted my old account so kys retard but i wasnt even implying i was og here LMFAO

so cool

 

[genetically fucked]

so cool

exactly now u look like a retard, go kys "get thinner look better" u sound like an edtwt 15 year old girl

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

exactly now u look like a retard, go kys "get thinner look better" u sound like an edtwt 15 year old girl

sure gentic defect

 

[xantrooper]

I'm absolutely going to need orthodontics before surgery so that's another year I'll have to wait, I'm going to consult Ramieri very soon but I might not be able to afford the price they start quoting 1 year from now when the braces part is done. It's over

some do a surgery first approach

 

[LEFORT17]

some do a surgery first approach

worse result depending what movements you need

 

[xantrooper]

worse result depending what movements you need

can you elaborate more what movements

 

[LEFORT17]

Nah only shitty American surgeons or deformed cases require that

where are you from and do you think he quoted you more because you are not italian

 

[Foreverbrad]

some do a surgery first approach

And then you end up needing a revision anyway because your teeth end up beyond orthodontist ability to correct due to surgical tolerances… just do it properly and be PATIENT, if you are impatient you will never succeed at anything in life in general.

 

[xantrooper]

And then you end up needing a revision anyway because your teeth end up beyond orthodontist ability to correct due to surgical tolerances… just do it properly and be PATIENT, if you are impatient you will never succeed at anything in life in general.

what if your bite is class 1 tho?

 

[LEFORT17]

what if your bite is class 1 tho?

lower premolars extraction to force a class 2 bite, making things worse to get it even better after surgery- decompensation

 

[richcel]

where are you from and do you think he quoted you more because you are not italian

I’m from the US and honestly I told him my budget was 100k so it’s possible he just decided to upcharge me. Honestly going into it I had no idea what price to expect and I just said 100k to get him to reply back but it may have made him decide to charge more. I’m on the plane to Italy now I will see pags in his office in like 18 hours

 

[LEFORT17]

I’m from the US and honestly I told him my budget was 100k so it’s possible he just decided to upcharge me. Honestly going into it I had no idea what price to expect and I just said 100k to get him to reply back but it may have made him decide to charge more. I’m on the plane to Italy now I will see pags in his office in like 18 hours

could be 28-30k for EU patient

 

[mikeperry271]

I’m from the US and honestly I told him my budget was 100k so it’s possible he just decided to upcharge me. Honestly going into it I had no idea what price to expect and I just said 100k to get him to reply back but it may have made him decide to charge more. I’m on the plane to Italy now I will see pags in his office in like 18 hours

nah price is normal, prolly no upcharge
let us know how it goes

 

[jakimeister]

I think 6mm upper 10mm lower 7 deg rotation and 8mm genio. Pretty large movements but I don’t remember exactly

6mm at which point? ans, a-point, incisor midline? how recessed are you?

 

[jakimeister]

what maxilla reference point is being advanced 6mm - a, ans, midline incisors? Also, how recessed are you?

 

[Seong Gi-Hun]

How long did it take from the first consultation to now?

 

[richcel]

How long did it take from the first consultation to now?

Like 4 months

 

[richcel]

what maxilla reference point is being advanced 6mm - a, ans, midline incisors? Also, how recessed are you?

Bro I don’t know he just told me what I should do and I said yeah

 

[sham66]

exactly now u look like a retard, go kys "get thinner look better" u sound like an edtwt 15 year old girl

alr subhuman

 

[genetically fucked]

alr subhuman

“will hardmax” no you won’t

 

[Sadist]

It’s 35,000 euro for bimax genio and infras. I’m leaving on the 8th of June and will see him on the 9th for a checkup and on the 11th I will get the surgery. I might post before and after a here but here is my 3d surgical plan

pagnoni is sketchy as shit ngl, all people i worked with had issues with him
too bad youre getting operated tomorrow bhai
best of luck anyways, hopefully youll ascend despite that

 

[Seong Gi-Hun]

Like 4 months

Did u have to get wisdom teeth/ premolars/ molars removed

 

[Seong Gi-Hun]

Did u have to get wisdom teeth/ premolars/ molars removed

Also good luck

 

[aids]

Holy shit. Miring OP.
Good luck bro. Let us know how it went and share how you feel about your new look especially after swelling drops.

 

[pouetpouet]

Good luck bro
Keep us updated

 

[richcel]

pagnoni is sketchy as shit ngl, all people i worked with had issues with him
too bad youre getting operated tomorrow bhai
best of luck anyways, hopefully youll ascend despite that

Pagnoni mogs you to your next reincarnation and back, jeet