OutRed
5’10” manlet prettyboy
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Disclaimer: This is a highly unpopular opinion, don’t flame me for this I’m just providing my perspective of it all. This is only for you if you want to end up with 1 girl at the end of the day and be happy. And you have to be at least MTN. LTN probably won’t work.I put some info here so you guys get a full understanding of what these pills are and what they mean if you don’t know yet:
Before you read, know that I’m not saying not to looksmax, I’m just saying to not hyper focus on it and get rid of the bp mindset if you have it. Expand from just looksmaxxing to other areas also.
Summary: (I highly recommend reading everything to get a full understanding of what I’m saying)
You don’t need to be extremely good-looking or have perfect genetics to get an attractive girl — being confident, charismatic, and socially skilled while still being a MTN or high LTN is more than enough. Focus on realistic self-improvement: stay under 18% body fat, dress well, keep your skin clear, stay groomed, lift consistently, and have engaging hobbies. Develop your social skills by pushing yourself into conversations, treating them like reps in the gym, and learning to make people feel heard — even small talk can go a long way. Use visualization and a bit of “delusion” to boost your confidence and act like your best version until it becomes real. Finally, don’t obsess over looksmaxxing — it’s just a piece of the puzzle; the true goal is becoming a confident, well-rounded person who knows how to connect with others.
️ White Pill:- Belief: The world is tough, but you have the power to overcome it.
- Focus: Discipline, self-improvement, and hope.
- Vibe: “Life’s unfair — so what? I’m still going to win.”
- Ideal for: People who’ve seen red/black pill truths but refuse to give up or grow bitter.
- Even if your looks may not be the best, it’s never over
Brown Pill: Charisma and acceptance path- Belief: You might be average-looking, and that’s okay.
- Focus: Max out charisma, personality, humor, and social intelligence instead of obsessing over looks.
- Think: “I’ll win through vibe, presence, and charm — not bone structure.”
- Ideal for: Realists who want results without spiraling into looks obsession.
Main goal is to be confident and socialmaxx along with good charisma and get the girl you want while still being MTN, because it is possible. Combine both pills
Here’s my proof you don’t have to super good looking, but average people that follow what I’ve listed can pull stacies:
Now that you know all that, let’s get started.
You don’t have to be a Chad or have insane bone structure to get an attractive girl. If you’re anything like me, your end goal is to get married to an attractive girl and have a good life.
I know plenty of MTNs that have girlfriends that are HTBs, stacylites, and a few stacies and some of are very short; as a mid/high MTN myself I’ve pulled a few stacies, but I’m trying to nt max more rn.
All those MTNs I’ve mentioned all had a few things in common that you must follow, or you’re cooked:
- Not overweight. Sitting below %18bf
- You know what to wear. Clothes that compliment your body. Nothing weird. Do NOT wear pajamas or clothes that make you look tired or like you don’t care. I have a friend that dresses sloppy and it takes away so much appeal. Takes him from a low MTN to a high LTN easily bc he dresses like a slop.
- Hobbies are underrated. For example, I play the piano. One of my buddies plays guitar.
- You can’t look homeless. Pick a good haircut and keep it maintained.
- You keep your skin in order. Get on accutane or a retinoid and start doing a skincare routine. Hormonal acne is completely understandable which is what I have, but I’ve been able to get rid of a lot of it through skincare.
- Lifting is a requirement. Focus on building your shoulders and slimming down your waist. Get in shape. I run PPL and lift 6x a week, my appeal has gone up a ton even tho I’m MTN and only 3 months in and I’m getting a lot more compliments.
- You must be clean shaven. If you can’t grow a full beard, do NOT grow a pedo moustache or attempt a goatee. It looks weird. You’ll make yourself look like a creep.
- Basic hygiene. Skincare goes under this but I made it separate bc it’s very important. Just be clean vro, always take showers in the morning no matter what, I don’t care about your excuses.
Everything I’ve listed is realistically achievable within a few months, unless you’re very overweight bc that takes time to lose fat.
Run test or other hormones if you want just don’t fuck yourself up yk. Plenty of info on this site to help you not screw up. I’m planning on running test eventually.
Moving on from looks, let’s move onto the brown pill.
Force yourself into social interactions. Think of each interaction as 1 rep, like the gym. Try to make each one better. Study how the “popular kids” or very social people act and try to mimic it. You’re not going to succeed at first, it takes time.
Make yourself delusional. I swear ts works. Close your eyes and imagine the version of you 100% looksmaxxed and where you want to be as an end goal. Now, pretend you are that version of you. Convince yourself, make yourself delusional. This has helped me so much in confidence and just talking to people in social settings.
What I’ve found is most people enjoy talking about:
- Sports (ex: did you see that player got traded to that team that’s crazy, what do you think about that)
- Local news (ex: did you see how that donut shop down the road closed? It was my favorite)
- Hobbies (ex: I like to fish. What about you?)
- Work (ex: what’s your job? Do you like it? What’s the worst and best thing about it?)
- Physical activities (ex: Gym setting; you’ve got huge triceps, I’m tryna get like you. What do you do for them?)
- Hm: ask for their advice on something. It will make them feel important and they will like you more. I do this all the time and it works
You gotta master social skills. Make yourself uncomfortable. If you humiliate yourself people are gonna forget, it’ll just me momentary. I’m a big introvert. It’s draining. That has not held me back from ntmaxxing, it’s just a little more difficult to get good at it all.
Lastly, don’t obsess over looksmaxxing, it’ll ruin you.
dont become a looksmaxxing geek. Let me say that again. Don’t become a looksmaxxing geek. Looksmaxxing is just a component needed on the journey of self improvement and trying to get yourself better, it’s not the main goal. Main goal is to be confident and socialmaxx along with good charisma and get the girl you want while still being MTN, because it is possible
At the end of the day, the bp mindset isn’t healthy and good for you. It’s gotta change
EDIT: forgot to say this. Expand your vocabulary, it will make you sound WAY smarter
Say what you want, but this is my opinion and perspective. Don’t hate on it, I’m not saying at all you have to go about life the way I’ve said.
