I'm too self-aware to cope. It's 100% over for oldcels.

[sadcel]

I mean you want me to go marry some poor village girl in Pakistan? the girls i'm interested in (middle class from Lahore) have requirements. Which nafris are you seeing marrying when poor? every girl these days has high standards and they all care so much about money tbh. ALL ethnic foids regardless Pakistani, Moroccan/nafri, arab, they all want money, good jobs etc.
Unless ofcourse you are tall and good looking then maybe you get a pass.

Ah I see, do you have a great job/career ?

I had an uni mate who is skinny dude,average height,patchy beard,MTN but he didnt softmax at all. He was very religious (islammaxed) and he lived with his parents with uni scholarship and some internships but still managed to marry a MTB.

Anyways I agree with you, most muslim marriages nowadays are just betabux, have you seen all the debates in muslim spaces revolving around how much mehr should a man pay (money)? Man paying all the house&groceries expenses ( again money).

It's never about married life,love, couple projects etc its always about money (the financial security of the sister ) every single time

 

[sadcel]

@sadcel where are these girls who will do nikkah with POOR GUYS??????? send me their number

are you islammaxxed ?

 

[sadcel]

yeah it's pretty much over at this point. Me being neurodivergent means it never even began for me. I have undiagnosed ADD/adhd one of those anyways, if they gave me ritalin or some stimulant i wouldn't have become like this.

Brutal bhai, I have diagnosed paranoia and surely many other things undiagnosed JFL

 

[JohnDoe]

are you islammaxxed ?

i mean right now i'm not but ramadan is very near so i will become islammaxxed, muslim women don't even like guys who are too religious, they want "freedom".

 

[sadcel]

i mean right now i'm not but ramadan is very near so i will become islammaxxed, muslim women don't even like guys who are too religious, they want "freedom".

Yes bro, the hoejabis...

But I believe there is a small pourcentage of muslim girls who prefer faith over looks, like they would choose a LTN very religious guy over an HTN cultural muslim... ( nichemaxxing)

 

[JohnDoe]

Brutal bhai, I have diagnosed paranoia and surely many other things undiagnosed JFL

>paranoia
can't you just take a big pharma pill so you are no longer paranoid? being non-nt/neurodivergent is just brutal, if you are non-nt in the UK you are FUCKED.

Ah I see, do you have a great job/career ?

I had an uni mate who is skinny dude,average height,patchy beard,MTN but he didnt softmax at all. He was very religious (islammaxed) and he lived with his parents with uni scholarship and some internships but still managed to marry a MTB.

Anyways I agree with you, most muslim marriages nowadays are just betabux, have you seen all the debates in muslim spaces revolving around how much mehr should a man pay (money)? Man paying all the house&groceries expenses ( again money).

It's never about married life,love, couple projects etc its always about money (the financial security of the sister ) every single time

I'm a NEET lol, why do you think i'm still unmarried. I don't doubt a MTN can get a MTB, i have seen the most subhuman niggas IRL with MTB cute foids all the fucking time, it's not hard to get foids if you softmaxx and are atleast MTN, you just have to be NT which i am not. Religiouscels from my experience end up with religious foids or at the very least the foids parents are super religious so they marry her off to a religious guy. It's not a bad thing because girls who are religious or come from a religious family are extremely unlikely to be unfaithful/cheat and usually make good wives.
A lot of muslim guys are legit just betabuxx though, it's so brutal to see. Mr Doctorcel and Mr businesscel all simping and betabuxxing for a makeupmaxxed MTB, i get why they do it because they don't actually get any pussy and betabuxxing for a foid who wants to settle was the only solution to them not being single.
Yeah i've actually talked to a few guys in America about mehr and they are the biggest fucking betabuxx in the world, these niggas are legit paying anywhere from 50k - 300k just for haq mehr, this is not even an exaggeration. The women expect this mcuh. I get american salaries are high but this is crazy stuff. In the UK mehr is usually 5-10k which is not too bad i guess, the bigger issue is that the foids aren't worth 10k mehr, most have a past or tons of issues, don't want to a traditional wife, don't know how to cook, clean or anything, it's like paying jsut to take care of an adult child, it's brutal. Atleast the girls back home in Pakistan are raised with traditional values and know what is expected of a wife. Western muslim women are a joke.

Western muslim foids - "Your money is our money, my money is my money" aka husbands entire paycheck goes on rent/mortagage, groceries, etc while the girl saves her money or just spends it on shopping. Usually these foids are really cunning and they save the money incase they need to ditch their betabuxx husband they will have a huge savings to move from him and be independent. The divorce rates for muslims in the west are high and it's only increasing each year. Muslim foids brainwashed by feminism.

Finding a good woman to marry is a fucking huge hassle which is why i was surprised by you saying that some poor nafri guy can do nikkah, how does the foid accept it? most foids i know will never accept poor guys, they are too materialistic. Well ramadan is coming and i will pray Allah gives me a high MTB foid atleast

 

[Seth Walsh]

I just can't get over the fact that I'm biologically obsolete as a male now that I'm in my mid 30s, and it's only going to get worse.

I'm convinced that as women continue to become increasingly open in their rejection of betabucksing (dating non-Chad men for money or stability), the next logical step will be to impose age limits on the men they date/fuck. They'll start posting disclaimers like "nobody over 30" just like many already filter by height. They'll want only men at their prime that can sustain functioning erections consistently. Norwooding oldcels will be rejected outright and won't even be given a chance. You'll see literal grandmas refusing to date men in their own age ranges.

Put simply, the entire 'men age like wine' narrative will die a brutal and fiery death. And btw, I predict this may actually be the straw that finally breaks most men. Pretty much the only reason most men haven't roped or blackpilled is because they still buy into this idea that 'making something of yourself" is key to securing future relationships. Once women openly start rejecting post-prime men, this cope will end, and men either give up or rebel.

Fucking over for me regardless.

 

[JohnDoe]

Yes bro, the hoejabis...

But I believe there is a small pourcentage of muslim girls who prefer faith over looks, like they would choose a LTN very religious guy over an HTN cultural muslim... ( nichemaxxing)

Yeah but that is a very small % of girls these days and most of the time these girls are prearranged to other religious guys who their father knows/picks out so outsiders have zero chance at marrying them.
You need to understand the relationship dynamics aswell, i have seen so many subhuman manlet curries with MTB wives but you can tell she wears the pants in the relationship and orders him around and makes him her bitch, undermines him and treats him badly, even in public you see shit like this so often when it's a mismatch. A lot of muslim foids have become masculine in their actions, mindset etc. They don't behave submissive and feminine like women should be.

 

[JohnDoe]

Yes bro, the hoejabis...

But I believe there is a small pourcentage of muslim girls who prefer faith over looks, like they would choose a LTN very religious guy over an HTN cultural muslim... ( nichemaxxing)

on another note hoejabis are crazy, like what's the point of wearing hijab when it's so tight and i can see your tits and ass from a mile away lmao, in my experiecne most hijabi girls are not pleasant, they are entitled, arrogant and very judgemental. Talking to non-hijabi foids is usually very easy going and they're open to conversation but hijabis are cunts.

 

[sadcel]

>paranoia
can't you just take a big pharma pill so you are no longer paranoid? being non-nt/neurodivergent is just brutal, if you are non-nt in the UK you are FUCKED.

Doesnt matter im still socially inapt after years of isolation.

Yeah i've actually talked to a few guys in America about mehr and they are the biggest fucking betabuxx in the world, these niggas are legit paying anywhere from 50k - 300k just for haq mehr, this is not even an exaggeration. The women expect this mcuh. I get american salaries are high but this is crazy stuff. In the UK mehr is usually 5-10k which is not too bad i guess, the bigger issue is that the foids aren't worth 10k mehr, most have a past or tons of issues, don't want to a traditional wife, don't know how to cook, clean or anything, it's like paying jsut to take care of an adult child, it's brutal.

The big amount of money shows its just a transactional marriage JFL.
That's even worst than western oofie doofies I swear atleast before marrying they dont pay such big amount of money.

For 10k-15k here in france I could probably get trimax, rhinoplasty and fillers/fatgrafts.... Which way : ascend and get in a real relationship ? or spend that money in a feminist hijabi who just wants financial security ?

on another note hoejabis are crazy, like what's the point of wearing hijab when it's so tight and i can see your tits and ass from a mile away lmao, in my experiecne most hijabi girls are not pleasant, they are entitled, arrogant and very judgemental. Talking to non-hijabi foids is usually very easy going and they're open to conversation but hijabis are cunts.

They are very religious when it's about their rights, but becomes feminists when it comes to their duties... Just see how they react to the fact that angels curse them if they refuse sex to their husband

 

[JohnDoe]

Doesnt matter im still socially inapt after years of isolation.


The big amount of money shows its just a transactional marriage JFL.
That's even worst than western oofie doofies I swear atleast before marrying they dont pay such big amount of money.

For 10k-15k here in france I could probably get trimax, rhinoplasty and fillers/fatgrafts.... Which way : ascend and get in a real relationship ? or spend that money in a feminist hijabi who just wants financial security ?


They are very religious when it's about their rights, but becomes feminists when it comes to their duties... Just see how they react to the fact that angels curse them if they refuse sex to their husband

Nigga i am older than you and way worse off, you can still fix yourself but surely there has to be something you can do for your mental issues. Even then i bet some foid will say yes and deal with it and marry you.
It is entirely transactional, muslim oofy doofies have to PAY for the opportunity to be an oofy doofy, it's the most cucked thing imaginable.
And yeah i'd rather spend the 10k mehr + 5k costs on myself and get rhino, canthoplasty, otoplasty, etc in Turkiye with that. Then you can attract a foid naturally instead of betabuxx route.
Also betabuxx route is just stupid, if the foid never has any real attraction towards you, your marriage will be shit, your sex life will be shit, there's no point.

 

[sadcel]

Nigga i am older than you and way worse off, you can still fix yourself but surely there has to be something you can do for your mental issues. Even then i bet some foid will say yes and deal with it and marry you.

Will see bhai, i will start roiding after ramadan and get bimax next year or the end of this year to fix my 7mm deepbite.

It is entirely transactional, muslim oofy doofies have to PAY for the opportunity to be an oofy doofy, it's the most cucked thing imaginable.
And yeah i'd rather spend the 10k mehr + 5k costs on myself and get rhino, canthoplasty, otoplasty, etc in Turkiye with that. Then you can attract a foid naturally instead of betabuxx route.
Also betabuxx route is just stupid, if the foid never has any real attraction towards you, your marriage will be shit, your sex life will be shit, there's no point.

Although I think there is "soft" betabuxxes where your wife somehow really loves you but because chad didnt settle for her... I know this might be very unpopular opinion here.