imagine still injecting and raping your HPTA Axis in 2025

[chadmanlet04]

I used to run Test E 250 + HCG which is reliable but honestly do I wanna shoot inferior loads with barely any sperm in it on top of having to stick a needle up my ass till the grave?

Why not boost your endogenous test production to the absolute max? its not like I have hypogonadism or hypopituitarism, why shut down my fully intact healthy HPTA Axis and testes making okish testosterone for my age (around 680 ng/dl)?

So I decided to look into SERMs, Clomid Citrate, Tamoxifen etc... Both are dog water long term as they spike your E2 too much on top of spiking your SHBG (low free T = worthless).

Enclomiphene is a game changer, unlike Clomid Citrate it does not have zuclomiphene in it so your E2 levels do not spike as much, even the slight jump can easily be countered by an AI. Take Proviron to lower your SHBG and take MK667 to combat IGF-1 depletion (not necessary, my IGF-1 never fell below "healthy" levels due to animal based diet high in fat and protein)

With Enclo I can easily reach around 1300 ng/dl of test, its lower than what I reach with Test 250 but my balls have actually increased in size and my ejaculations feel like I am 16 again.

Endogenous > Exogenous.

 

[gofortheeyes]

My joints feel like total garbage if I'm on serms also serms aren't very good for your eyes and increase clotting risk.

Don't get me wrong, serms are great drugs, except i don't think they should be a long term protocol.

You can maintain testicular function with hMG and hCG. HMG in this case function as FSH, which stimulates sperm production. However the main driver behind loss of virtility is loss of testicular function, caused by atrophy. As long as you prevent the atrophy with hCG, you're going to be fine.

You don't have to keep injecting till the grave boyo, as long as you maintain with hCG, you're going to be fine.

For me the risk of serms isn't worth the outcome. Fucking 1300ng/dl for increased clotting risk and dry joints? I'd much rather go to 3800ng/dl for 20 weeks with 500 test and experience less sides (I'm on duta permanently already and then only have to add in an AI).

 

[20/04/2008]

I used to run Test E 250 + HCG which is reliable but honestly do I wanna shoot inferior loads with barely any sperm in it on top of having to stick a needle up my ass till the grave?

Why not boost your endogenous test production to the absolute max? its not like I have hypogonadism or hypopituitarism, why shut down my fully intact healthy HPTA Axis and testes making okish testosterone for my age (around 680 ng/dl)?

So I decided to look into SERMs, Clomid Citrate, Tamoxifen etc... Both are dog water long term as they spike your E2 too much on top of spiking your SHBG (low free T = worthless).

Enclomiphene is a game changer, unlike Clomid Citrate it does not have zuclomiphene in it so your E2 levels do not spike as much, even the slight jump can easily be countered by an AI. Take Proviron to lower your SHBG and take MK667 to combat IGF-1 depletion (not necessary, my IGF-1 never fell below "healthy" levels due to animal based diet high in fat and protein)

With Enclo I can easily reach around 1300 ng/dl of test, its lower than what I reach with Test 250 but my balls have actually increased in size and my ejaculations feel like I am 16 again.

Endogenous > Exogenous.

Finaly someoen agree with me

 

[20/04/2008]

My joints feel like total garbage if I'm on serms also serms aren't very good for your eyes and increase clotting risk.

Don't get me wrong, serms are great drugs, except i don't think they should be a long term protocol.

You can maintain testicular function with hMG and hCG. HMG in this case function as FSH, which stimulates sperm production. However the main driver behind loss of virtility is loss of testicular function, caused by atrophy. As long as you prevent the atrophy with hCG, you're going to be fine.

You don't have to keep injecting till the grave boyo, as long as you maintain with hCG, you're going to be fine.

For me the risk of serms isn't worth the outcome. Fucking 1300ng/dl for increased clotting risk and dry joints? I'd much rather go to 3800ng/dl for 20 weeks with 500 test and experience less sides (I'm on duta permanently already and then only have to add in an AI).

Nahh thats just nolva
Enclo and clomid didnt do shit to me perssonaly
Hcg is if you just want to have your balls back
If you add Hmg is if you want to have inhuman balls
Yeah blast with Aas and maintain with hcg and hmg
Also how tf 3800 ng/dl on 500 test did you reach optimal concentration levels ??? If not they scammed your ass your test should be atleast 4500-6000 ng/dl their are people on 300 test and have 3000 ng/dl

 

[LongForgotten]

Boy shut up

 

[chadhamed]

Boy shut up

Yur the boy

 

[chadhamed]

Liver

 

[gofortheeyes]

Nahh thats just nolva
Enclo and clomid didnt do shit to me perssonaly
Hcg is if you just want to have your balls back
If you add Hmg is if you want to have inhuman balls
Yeah blast with Aas and maintain with hcg and hmg
Also how tf 3800 ng/dl on 500 test did you reach optimal concentration levels ??? If not they scammed your ass your test should be atleast 4500-6000 ng/dl their are people on 300 test and have 3000 ng/dl

Test concentration varies from person to person boyo.

 

[20/04/2008]

Test concentration varies from person to person boyo.

Did you achieve full concentration stop taking my words out of context

 

[gofortheeyes]

Did you achieve full concentration stop taking my words out of context

My reaction was to the statement " their are people that acheive 3000ng/dl on 300mg test"

I think it was full concentration, i don't really in what week of the cycle i took the bloodtest.

 

[ascension124]

I used to run Test E 250 + HCG which is reliable but honestly do I wanna shoot inferior loads with barely any sperm in it on top of having to stick a needle up my ass till the grave?

Why not boost your endogenous test production to the absolute max? its not like I have hypogonadism or hypopituitarism, why shut down my fully intact healthy HPTA Axis and testes making okish testosterone for my age (around 680 ng/dl)?

So I decided to look into SERMs, Clomid Citrate, Tamoxifen etc... Both are dog water long term as they spike your E2 too much on top of spiking your SHBG (low free T = worthless).

Enclomiphene is a game changer, unlike Clomid Citrate it does not have zuclomiphene in it so your E2 levels do not spike as much, even the slight jump can easily be countered by an AI. Take Proviron to lower your SHBG and take MK667 to combat IGF-1 depletion (not necessary, my IGF-1 never fell below "healthy" levels due to animal based diet high in fat and protein)

With Enclo I can easily reach around 1300 ng/dl of test, its lower than what I reach with Test 250 but my balls have actually increased in size and my ejaculations feel like I am 16 again.

Endogenous > Exogenous.

How long did you run 250?

 

[20/04/2008]

My reaction was to the statement " their are people that acheive 3000ng/dl on 300mg test"

I think it was full concentration, i don't really in what week of the cycle i took the bloodtest.

Owww my bad

 

[gofortheeyes]

Owww my bad

Brutal IQcel

 

[20/04/2008]

Brutal IQcel

Nigga im polylingual
Its like i speak with you in german/arabic/french/spanish and if you don’t answear me correctly i say your an iqcell

 

[gofortheeyes]

Nigga im polylingual
Its like i speak with you in german/arabic/french/spanish and if you don’t answear me correctly i say your an iqcell

im polylingual as well, dutch, english, frysian

 

[20/04/2008]

im polylingual as well, dutch, english, frysian

Their is no way your speaking thats a dead languague

 

[gofortheeyes]

Their is no way your speaking thats a dead languague

No bro, in frysia they still speak it

 

[mfk]

ur literally an echo chamber of nonsense

pinning has been the gold standard for more than dozens of years

these serms haven’t been around for long, there is far less clinical data on it’s effects especially in the long term

 

[20/04/2008]

ur literally an echo chamber of nonsense

pinning has been the gold standard for more than dozens of years

these serms haven’t been around for long, there is far less clinical data on it’s effects especially in the long term

Serms have been before estrogen blockers

 

[Saint Casanova]

You’re not meant to use Enclo for long periods of time as it will fuck up your natural LH signaling. Oh dear

 

[Hexmask]

Serms have been before estrogen blockers

I’m guessing your anti aromatase inhibitor too huh.

 

[chadmanlet04]

Liver

serms arent hepatotoxic unlike sarms

 

[chadmanlet04]

You’re not meant to use Enclo for long periods of time as it will fuck up your natural LH signaling. Oh dear

duh, I cycle it

 

[chadmanlet04]

My joints feel like total garbage if I'm on serms also serms aren't very good for your eyes and increase clotting risk.

Don't get me wrong, serms are great drugs, except i don't think they should be a long term protocol.

You can maintain testicular function with hMG and hCG. HMG in this case function as FSH, which stimulates sperm production. However the main driver behind loss of virtility is loss of testicular function, caused by atrophy. As long as you prevent the atrophy with hCG, you're going to be fine.

You don't have to keep injecting till the grave boyo, as long as you maintain with hCG, you're going to be fine.

For me the risk of serms isn't worth the outcome. Fucking 1300ng/dl for increased clotting risk and dry joints? I'd much rather go to 3800ng/dl for 20 weeks with 500 test and experience less sides (I'm on duta permanently already and then only have to add in an AI).

first of all 1000+ ng/dl is more than enough for day to day quality of life, anything above you are putting unnecessary stress on your cardiovascular system.

SERMs are indeed wildcards and not for everyone, I have no sides with 25mg enclo eod but for some its a death sentence.

still worth a try though

 

[gofortheeyes]

first of all 1000+ ng/dl is more than enough for day to day quality of life, anything above you are putting unnecessary stress on your cardiovascular system.

SERMs are indeed wildcards and not for everyone, I have no sides with 25mg enclo eod but for some its a death sentence.

still worth a try though

cardiovascular stress? Not really??? If your estrogen gets too high, you can use an AI, and perhaps some telmisartan if BP issues persist.

 

[Saint Casanova]

duh, I cycle it

What exactly is the point ? It guess a natty+ boost at most in terms of muscle gain and it doesn’t really improve other aspects unless you were low T to begin with ?

 

[Saint Casanova]

What exactly is the point ? It guess a natty+ boost at most in terms of muscle gain and it doesn’t really improve other aspects unless you were low T to begin with ?

Also it’s very hard to get real enclo, it’s normally faked with clomid which will fuck up a lot of shit. The only good sources are RC, Cheymo, and some Russian sources

 

[chadmanlet04]

What exactly is the point ? It guess a natty+ boost at most in terms of muscle gain and it doesn’t really improve other aspects unless you were low T to begin with ?

I am comfy with enclos levels, 1300 is enough to maintain a decent physique, overall mental clarity, erections etc...

even my natty levels of 680 arent too bad for my age, its more or less just about managing fertility

 

[Saint Casanova]

I am comfy with enclos levels, 1300 is enough to maintain a decent physique, overall mental clarity, erections etc...

even my natty levels of 680 arent too bad for my age, its more or less just about managing fertility

Are you planning to have a child at the moment ?