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ElaborateI have yet to see anyone on the subreddit mentioning the fact that many "Palestinians" don't even have a majority of "Palestinian" DNA.
Non-Israeli Palestinian DNA is exclusively from the ancient region of modern Gaza, and that's even before discussing the fact that "Palestine" was invaded by Turks during the Ottoman Empire and by Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. after its fall (thus, many Muslims living in modern "Palestine" who claim to be "Palestinian" have significant amounts of non-Palestinian DNA).Elaborate
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Forgive me, I do not have the knowledge to be able to refute or discuss this.Non-Israeli Palestinian DNA is exclusively from the ancient region of modern Gaza, and that's even before discussing the fact that "Palestine" was invaded by Turks during the Ottoman Empire and by Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. after its fall (thus, many Muslims living in modern "Palestine" who claim to be "Palestinian" have significant amounts of non-Palestinian DNA).
Forgive me, I do not have the knowledge to be able to refute or discuss this.
Can you tell me what the following post says with regards to your words:
Dna was never the basis of support for the existance of Palestinians you geneticist nazi autist. The great amount of israelis are largely european as well, which would explain why their skin cancer rates are so high compared to other middle eastern nationsNon-Israeli Palestinian DNA is exclusively from the ancient region of modern Gaza, and that's even before discussing the fact that "Palestine" was invaded by Turks during the Ottoman Empire and by Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. after its fall (thus, many Muslims living in modern "Palestine" who claim to be "Palestinian" have significant amounts of non-Palestinian DNA).
Yes, it was.Dna was never the basis of support for the existance of Palestinians
Ironic.you geneticist nazi autist.
Ironic.The great amount of israelis are largely european as well
By "Palestinians" you're referring to nationality rather than ethnicity? And by "Palestinian," you're referring to Mandatory Palestine, which existed from 1920 to 1948 and was established and managed by Brits? "Palestine" was never a recognized nation under Ottoman rule.The Palestinians have been living in the private land of Palestine for hundreds of years, regardless of wether it was under control of the larger Ottoman empire or the English, or independent of wether it was recognized by the UN, by that same logic, invading Lebanon would be okay too, or literally any other nation which was occupied by imperialists.
The basis of the argument is that you don't get to genocide and kick out people who have been living in a place for over centuries and developed a whole way of living, it's honestly hilarious how you (An American) can hold this same sense of logic while according to your ideas, native americans should slaughter you and take back the land your ancestors stole from them. Although the Palestinians are the original inhabitants and have been even 600 years before the Romans set foot.Yes, it was.
Ironic.
Ironic.
By "Palestinians" you're referring to nationality rather than ethnicity? And by "Palestinian," you're referring to Mandatory Palestine, which existed from 1920 to 1948 and was established and governed by Brits? "Palestine" was never a recognized nation under Ottoman rule.
By the way, I meant to write "A great amount" of Israeli's, as many Israeli's are also Arab jews who are mixed with ArabsThe basis of the argument is that you don't get to genocide and kick out people who have been living in a place for over centuries and developed a whole way of living, it's honestly hilarious how you (An American) can hold this same sense of logic while according to your ideas, native americans should slaughter you and take back the land your ancestors stole from them. Although the Palestinians are the original inhabitants and have been even 600 years before the Romans set foot.
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How is this even ironic? It's not a secret many jews are largery European, so much to which they even developed their own European type of language which is largely based off of German: Yiddish
I never said recognized nation you incapable American dumbfuck, I said private land, just like Syria, Lebanon and Jordan although they were part of greater Syria. You've probably never heard of names like Zahir al-Umar who stood up for national Palestinian identity, and actually won and ruled over a Palestinian state for over 50 years within the Ottoman empire.
Their argument is laughably hypocritical because Arabs (with the seemingly required help of Britain) did that to the Ottoman-ruled "Palestine" during WWI, and they continued to do so against religious minorities (some of whom may have had a substantial majority of "Palestinian" DNA) in the region throughout the existence of Mandatory Palestine.The basis of the argument is that you don't get to genocide and kick out people who have been living in a place for over centuries and developed a whole way of living
Strawman and false assumption. Also, people with majority Amerindian DNA are currently "reclaiming" the US through (illegal) mass migration; which I don't even oppose.it's honestly hilarious how you (An American) can hold this same sense of logic while according to your ideas, native americans should slaughter you and take back the land your ancestors stole from them.
Pick a lane, schizo. You keep making claims about ethnicity despite:Although the Palestinians are the original inhabitants and have been even 600 years before the Romans set foot.
Dna was never the basis of support for the existance of Palestinians you geneticist nazi autist.
How is this even ironic? It's not a secret many jews are largery European
Dna was never the basis of support for the existance of Palestinians you geneticist nazi autist.
"Private land" under British, Ottoman, Byzantine, Roman, Babylonian, Egyptian, Ancient Israeli, etc. rule?I said private land
He was a rebel who was squashed under Ottoman rule and lacked the power to establish an independent Palestine.You've probably never heard of names like Zahir al-Umar who stood up for national Palestinian identity, and actually won and ruled over a Palestinian state for over 50 years within the Ottoman empire.
Indigenous people of the America's dont have any "American" dna either. Your point?I have yet to see anyone on the subreddit mentioning the fact that many "Palestinians" don't even have a majority of "Palestinian" DNA.
Yes, they do, which fundamentally makes them "indigenous people of the Americas."Indigenous people of the America's dont have any "American" dna either. Your point?
DumbassYes, they do, which fundamentally makes them "indigenous people of the Americas."
Ironic.Dumbass![]()
Lol so how is that hypocritical? Wtf are you even saying, Palestine protesters aren't supporting historical local wars, and just because local Arab nations may have fought each other doesn't give Israel the current allowance to kick out people.Their argument is laughably hypocritical because Arabs (with the seemingly required help of Britain) did that to the Ottoman-ruled "Palestine" during WWI, and they continued to do so against religious minorities (some of whom may have had a substantial majority of "Palestinian" DNA) in the region throughout the existence of Mandatory Palestine.
You're very good at being obscurantist by using intellectual words, hoping it scares the other person away, instead of actually countering the argument with valid points. The majority of amerindian people who are "reclaiming" the US are also not "majority dna" original inhabitants of the place that is currently the US, so idk wtf you're talking about.Strawman and false assumption. Also, people with majority Amerindian DNA are currently "reclaiming" the US through (illegal) mass migration; which I don't even oppose.
The audacity to call me a shizo as your post history says you're not a zionist, when you are the biggest zionist rat I've ever encountered in my life. Yes for many of these empires it was a private land, I don't think you understand the term private land well enough for you to participate in this discussion. And Egypt occupied Gaza cause they were at war with Israel, and used it as a military resource, not because they discretited the existance of Palestinians.Pick a lane, schizo. You keep making claims about ethnicity despite:
"Private land" under British, Ottoman, Byzantine, Roman, Babylonian, Egyptian, Ancient Israeli, etc. rule?
So??? That goes to show there was a call for the Palestinians to have their own land, and he did establish a northern Palestine state until his death.He was a rebel who was squashed under Ottoman rule and lacked the power to establish an independent Palestine.
Because Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. invaded Palestine, involving "genocide and kick[ing] out people who [had] been living in a place for over centuries and developed a whole way of living."Lol so how is that hypocritical?
You're trying to argue semantics ("allowance") that I don't even care about. This statement is additionally ironic due to the information discussed here:Palestine protesters aren't supporting historical local wars, and just because local Arab nations may have fought each other doesn't give Israel the current allowance to kick out people.
While its true, you don't understand how this "peaceful" method was used. The Palestinians had no say in their homes being sold out to the new comming jewish settlers because the homes were held by select few rich arab landlords who made a decision for dozens of families. Majority of the middle east was very feudal even by the 20th century (Russia was feudal until the 1860's, and thats just formally) and property was held by a small minority
You're suggesting that a handful of wealthy Arabs sold out the majority of Arab settlers to Zionists in Palestine?
Ironic.You're very good at being obscurantist by using intellectual words, hoping it scares the other person away, instead of actually countering the argument with valid points.
Navajo, Pueblo, Apache, Comanche, etc. DNA may exist through "Mexican" immigrants. Also, people with substantial Amerindian DNA in the US (not immigrants) have high birth rates. Also, indigenous Central and South Americans were descendants of the indigenous North Americans.The majority of amerindian people who are "reclaiming" the US are also not "majority dna" original inhabitants of the place that is currently the US, so idk wtf you're talking about.
Ironic.The audacity to call me a shizo as your post history says you're not a zionist, when you are the biggest zionist rat I've ever encountered in my life.
Feel free to educate us.Yes for many of these empires it was a private land, I don't think you understand the term private land well enough for you to participate in this discussion.
Egyptians were moving into Gaza during and after the Ottoman rule of Palestine before Israel was founded in 1948.And Egypt occupied Gaza cause they were at war with Israel, and used it as a military resource, not because they discretited the existance of Palestinians.
It goes to show that other Muslims resisted the call for a Palestinian state.So??? That goes to show there was a call for the Palestinians to have their own land
Source? Specifically, one that indicates substantial Muslim support (outside of "Palestine") for the alleged state.and he did establish a northern Palestine state until his death.
You are clearly extremely uninformed on nearly every section you replied to. Which goes to show just how much the US education system has failed, from your statement that Egyptians "invaded" Palestine, or initiated the 1948 war when that was after 300.000 Palestinians already had to flee and the Arab world was tired of hearing of their suffering, to strawmanning and claiming that other muslim imperialists resisting independency invalidates my initial point... The fact you are so unknown with the stories of Palestinian heroes like Al Umar shows that too. Thus, I'm gonna spend my time on discussions with more quality, I have already shown our audience who was right.Because Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. invaded Palestine, involving "genocide and kick[ing] out people who [had] been living in a place for over centuries and developed a whole way of living."
Many (if not most) of the current "Palestinians" are descendants of those Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc.
You're trying to argue semantics ("allowance") that I don't even care about. This statement is additionally ironic due to the information discussed here:
Ironic.
Navajo, Pueblo, Apache, Comanche, etc. DNA may exist through "Mexican" immigrants. Also, people with substantial Amerindian DNA in the US (not immigrants) have high birth rates. Also, indigenous Central and South Americans were descendants of the indigenous North Americans.
Ironic.
Feel free to educate us.
Egyptians were moving into Gaza during and after the Ottoman rule of Palestine before Israel was founded in 1948.
Then, in 1948, Egyptians further invaded "Palestine," initiating the war you are referring to.
It goes to show that other Muslims resisted the call for a Palestinian state.
Source? Specifically, one that indicates substantial non-Palestinian Muslim support for the alleged state.
Ironic considering that you wrote two entire paragraphs without a single substantiated claim/rebuttal.You are clearly extremely uninformed on nearly every section you replied to. Which goes to show just how much the US education system has failed, from your statement that Egyptians initiated the 1948 war, to strawmanning and claiming that other muslim imperialists resisting independency invalidates my initial point... The fact you are so unknown with the stories of Palestinian heroes like Al Umar shows that too. Thus, I'm gonna spend my time on discussions with more quality, I have already shown our audience who was right.
You have done nothing other than using cheap lies, and any person who will read this thread back is going to see them as I destroyed you on every point we talked about. I feel bad for you, clearly suffering from autism which is shown by your "Irony." replies as if it makes you look powerful. You zionists will pay for the hatred you have allowed into your heart, and I'm grateful to know that I'll probably be alive to see it.
Someone does not agree with me = ironicIronic considering that you wrote two entire paragraphs without a single substantiated claim/rebuttal.
Ironic.Someone does not agree with me = ironic