In 2023, if you're not niche/archetypemaxxing, your smv is incel tier.

[HellenicChad]

Instead of spending 10s of K in surgeries and debating canthal tilts and gonial angles what you need to do is find an archetype that you can feasibly represent based on your foundation and start looking like that.

Some attractive archetypes are: Tiktok/Kpop prettyboy, RTT badboy, sporty college frat boy, rich suit-wearing businessman

All those types have their clothes, style, hair, way of behaving, talking, hobbies etc.

You NEED to come across as one of these socially calibrated archetypes, generic good-looking dude with vanilla clothes, pics, personality has 0 sex appeal in 2023

 

[Deleted member 23558]

 

[Deleted member 19453]

clothes, style, hair, way of behaving, talking, hobbies etc.

those are not going to do anything if someone has a bad base and 3/6 of those are free, the other wont cost more than 2k

 

[Deleted member 19174]

I'm trying to look like a lightskin thug.

 

[HellenicChad]

those are not going to do anything if someone has a bad base and 3/6 of those are free, the other wont cost more than 2k

Most people have an average base not a bad one. Normies can ascend with nichemaxxing while psl htn even chadlite will remain incel due to not fitting current trends

 

[Cali Yuga]

what if my niche is schizo who hates women and talking to normal people

 

[AverageTevvezFan]

what if my niche is schizo who hates women and talking to normal people

stay incel and jack off to patrick bateman edits

 

[gribsufer1]

cope be gl or death

 

[HarrierDuBois]

RTT badboy

What is this?

 

[HellenicChad]

What is this?

Roids, tattoos, tan. Basically the Love Island look

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Roids, tattoos, tan. Basically the Love Island look

Bro fuck that, respectfully. Only works in your 20's and after that it looks low class and low appeal af.

 

[Deleted member 17531]

I've been saying this
I'm currently nichemaxxing to alt prettyboy

 

[HellenicChad]

Bro fuck that, respectfully. Only works in your 20's and after that it looks low class and low appeal af.

Well I mean you can only slay in your 20s, maybe early 30s at best. But yeah I hate this look too, same as with all these archetypes tbqh

 

[Momolooksmax]

how do i know which archetype fits me too looksmax ?

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Just be yourself bro. I know a guy who went from a hockey player to wigger to a redneck trump supporter

Shit is goofy

 

[HellenicChad]

how do i know which archetype fits me too looksmax ?

You need to consider your looks and personality. For example if you are non-NT, high inhib you can't really RTTmaxx unless you're a great actor. If you're not sporty and tall you can't fratboymax. If you don't have the collagen, hair and facial features you can't prettyboymaxx.

Easiest for most would be suit/sprezzatura maxxing but there's the risk of not havign enough sex appeal and only attracting post wall roasties looking to settle down/betabuxx

 

[rand anon]

what if my niche is schizo who hates women and talking to normal people

 

[Xangsane]

You need to consider your looks and personality.

Non-NT, shy, I'm 25, half white/half Arab but I look much younger than my actual age.
Clean-shaven, NW 0-1, dark brown hair. Thick eyebrows and eyelashes. 5'9. 16% bf.

 

[HellenicChad]

Non-NT, shy, I'm 25, half white/half Arab but I look much younger than my actual age.
Clean-shaven, NW 0-1, dark brown hair. Thick eyebrows and eyelashes. 5'9. 16% bf.

Sounds like you should either suitmaxx or alt/tiktok maxx since you kook younger and have nice lashes. Keep in mind that if going for MENA girls you need masc traits and their preferrence is bearded badboy gymcells. But if you can whitemaxx I think high-class, suave with suits etc is the way to go

 

[Xangsane]

Sounds like you should either suitmaxx or alt/tiktok maxx

What's suitmaxx?
I don't want to TikTokmaxx (I'm too old) or altmaxx (I'd attract BPD girls with pink hair).

since you kook younger and have nice lashes.

Thank you!

Keep in mind that if going for MENA girls

I'm looking for a wife, and I'd strongly prefer her to be Muslim (any ethnicity except certain South Asian/SEA)

you need masc traits and their preferrence is bearded badboy gymcells.

It's over.

But if you can whitemaxx

I'm not into white girls

think high-class, suave with suits etc is the way to go

I wish I were 6'4 and maesthetic enough to pull it off well.

 

[HellenicChad]

What's suitmaxx?

Basically wear dapper clothes. Suits, blazers, dress shirts, leather boots. Come across as high-class, high status but make sure you still maintain some edge with muscles, accesories, stubble, hair etc

I don't want to TikTokmaxx (I'm too old) or altmaxx (I'd attract BPD girls with pink hair).

If you're looking for a "good girl", then pretty much only suitmaxxing would work or just "be yourself" and hope for the best

Thank you!

I'm looking for a wife, and I'd strongly prefer her to be Muslim (any ethnicity except certain South Asian/SEA)

Try growing some stubble. If you don't want to prettyboymaxx or don't have top tier bones, facial hair is a game-changer. It doesn't even need to be full, that's cope

It's over.

I'm not into white girls

I wish I were 6'4 and maesthetic enough to pull it off well.

You need some dom elements or else it will be a bit soy but you don't need to be that tall. If you build some muscles and wear nice fitting dapper clothes you'll do much better than some average guy with streetwear

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Sounds like cope, hardmaxing>

 

[Wiqfi]

Instead of spending 10s of K in surgeries and debating canthal tilts and gonial angles what you need to do is find an archetype that you can feasibly represent based on your foundation and start looking like that.

Some attractive archetypes are: Tiktok/Kpop prettyboy, RTT badboy, sporty college frat boy, rich suit-wearing businessman

All those types have their clothes, style, hair, way of behaving, talking, hobbies etc.

You NEED to come across as one of these socially calibrated archetypes, generic good-looking dude with vanilla clothes, pics, personality has 0 sex appeal in 2023

there are so many other archetypes not included here but yeah you are right.
i think that you cannot pick a random archetype and expect it to fit you, for ex businessman archtype you'd probably want to have outward gonions while having the ability to grow facial hair etc

 

[Xangsane]

Basically wear dapper clothes. Suits, blazers, dress shirts, leather boots. Come across as high-class, high status but make sure you still maintain some edge with muscles, accesories, stubble, hair etc

I'm gonna have to put plenty of money towards high quality formal, semi-formal wear. I wear smart casual to work.

If you're looking for a "good girl", then pretty much only suitmaxxing would work or just "be yourself" and hope for the best

I hope she wouldn't think I'm being tryhard.

Try growing some stubble. If you don't want to prettyboymaxx or don't have top tier bones, facial hair is a game-changer. It doesn't even need to be full, that's cope

I just prefer to be clean-shaven as it's more hygienic and professional that way.

You need some dom elements or else it will be a bit soy but you don't need to be that tall. If you build some muscles and wear nice fitting dapper clothes you'll do much better than some average guy with streetwear

I've got a decent solid mesomorph build but I'll need to get leaner (I'm at 16% bf)

 

[Cali Yuga]

stay incel and jack off to patrick bateman edits

im not incel i just hate women

 

[Deleted member 13710]

You don't have to go to extreme with the nichemaxxing, but it helps to have a certain look. I really get the impression a lot of people here are just completely dull people with nothing interesting to say, and they think the only reason they aren't successful with women is that they don't have alligator-tier maxillas.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

You don't have to go to extreme with the nichemaxxing, but it helps to have a certain look. I really get the impression a lot of people here are just completely dull people with nothing interesting to say, and they think the only reason they aren't successful with women is that they don't have alligator-tier maxillas.

bluepill.org

 

[Deleted member 13710]

bluepill.org

"I'M ACTUALLY REALLY BLACKPILLED BRO. IT MAKES ME SMART BRO. JUST ONE MORE SURGERY."

 

[thereallegend]

I've been saying this
I'm currently nichemaxxing to alt prettyboy

That's laughable bud. Alt hoes want Chad. You should be nichemaxxing like Carti.

 

[HellenicChad]

You don't have to go to extreme with the nichemaxxing, but it helps to have a certain look. I really get the impression a lot of people here are just completely dull people with nothing interesting to say, and they think the only reason they aren't successful with women is that they don't have alligator-tier maxillas.

Well that's me. I don't know what to talk about in a 2nd or 3rd date, I have a list of topics to discuss with dates but after that runs out, what else is there to say? The NT pill is brutal

 

[Deleted member 17531]

That's laughable bud. Alt hoes want Chad. You should be nichemaxxing like Carti.

alt hoes want prettyboy chads yes
when I'm done with my journey I'll be a 6'3 alt prettyboy chadlite, jfl if u think I won't have insane smv to alt hoes

 

[Fly]

All you need is to take a shower and get a haircut tier advice jfl at the state of this forum

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Well that's me. I don't know what to talk about in a 2nd or 3rd date, I have a list of topics to discuss with dates but after that runs out, what else is there to say? The NT pill is brutal

You think you're too NT or not NT enough?

 

[HellenicChad]

You think you're too NT or not NT enough?

I'm not NT at all. I can have interestign 1-1 convos with new people but can't maintain any relationship whether friendly or romantic after the main topics have been discussed. Meanwhile normies just effortlessly talk all the time but only between them. I don't think it's something you can "train". You either got it during an important developmental period in childhood/adolescence or you didn't.

 

[5.5psl]

Bro fuck that, respectfully. Only works in your 20's and after that it looks low class and low appeal af.

Atleast you can slay in your 20's and better to settle with a loyal and beautiful wife in your 30's RTT is definitely that I'm gonna do bcoz I'm tall and having muscles +tats over that is huge halo

 

[5.5psl]

Definitely RTT for me it's almost guarenteed for you to slay if you are not below 5'8 and 4.5 psl

 

[AverageTevvezFan]

im not incel i just hate women

based as fuck

 

[ascension!]

@HellenicChad @Xangsane
How can I pull the 'Prettyboy' archetype?
What do I need exactly?

 

[Xangsane]

@HellenicChad @Xangsane
How can I pull the 'Prettyboy' archetype?
What do I need exactly?

Grow a beard and get a buzzcut

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Cope every NT normie that have social circle, hangs out to bars, club, parties is already softmaxxing and nichemaxxing to oblivion in 2023.

beardfrauding, tatoomaxxing, RTT , tiktok hairstyle , grooming, clothes, finsta' rat' and bro' maxxing .

only boneless LTNs and Truecels look generic and out of fashion.

yet they are still incel or LTR material at best if lucky.

what women want is good bones, white passing pheno and at least average height.

PSL is legit and the only way to score better than your Normie male counterparts.
over if you are < 4.75 PSL in 2023 but it is water.

 

[EckhartTollemaxx]

Well that's me. I don't know what to talk about in a 2nd or 3rd date, I have a list of topics to discuss with dates but after that runs out, what else is there to say? The NT pill is brutal

Just find an autistic woman then.

 

[Deleted member 22623]

I wanna be pashtun/brahmin mogger archetype

 

[HellenicChad]

Just find an autistic woman then.

The number of autistic women is much lower than men and they prefer sociallly normal men in the same way midget women prefer tallfags

 

[Deleted member 13710]

I'm not NT at all. I can have interestign 1-1 convos with new people but can't maintain any relationship whether friendly or romantic after the main topics have been discussed. Meanwhile normies just effortlessly talk all the time but only between them. I don't think it's something you can "train". You either got it during an important developmental period in childhood/adolescence or you didn't.

I do think it's something I can train. You have to make an effort to make a good (but not overbearing) impression at first, and then people will tolerate you more if you are a little quiet, talk about unusual things, etc. Just my opinion.