In increased bone mass the only permanent gain from test?

[dreamcorer]

Wanna start a test cycle (with ai and pct).
Just turned 16, will increased bone mass be the only permanent pro of test? If that’s the case it’s pretty usless to start test right?

 

[Dio Brando]

Don’t do ai or pct
Lots of permanent and non permanent effects do your research don’t even consider it yet.
Bones will get bigger or even look bigger in whatever way you’re thinking.
No test is one do the best things you can do.

 

[dreamcorer]

Don’t do ai or pct
Lots of permanent and non permanent effects do your research don’t even consider it yet.
Bones will get bigger or even look bigger in whatever way you’re thinking.
No test is one do the best things you can do.

Could i ask you why?

 

[Dio Brando]

Could i ask you why?

Just have a good amount of T for an estrogen base you do NOT want to nuke it.
Don’t PCT after one cycle and you probably will do more.

PCT is pointless imo but if you’re doing it do it when you’re over 18 if you’ve started T because serms and getting back you’re natural levels will be unpredictable and could fuck you up.

Your bones will change but barely visually at all you won’t see it so how will others development is nearly finished at this age.

You can still influence fat pads and massager muscles with Androgens or Anabolics so will help depending on person.

You WILL develop secondary traits like a deeper voice facial hair etc.(this alone makes it worth it)

And last but most important is the muscle and physique halo especially when young.
It means 3x more under 18 span post this you’re confidence will skyrocket from t and your ego from physique.

If all I listed isn’t enough info to take advantage and make your own protocol just research more or don’t do it.

 

[hopefulllarp]

Just have a good amount of T for an estrogen base you do NOT want to nuke it.
Don’t PCT after one cycle and you probably will do more.

PCT is pointless imo but if you’re doing it do it when you’re over 18 if you’ve started T because serms and getting back you’re natural levels will be unpredictable and could fuck you up.

Your bones will change but barely visually at all you won’t see it so how will others development is nearly finished at this age.

You can still influence fat pads and massager muscles with Androgens or Anabolics so will help depending on person.

You WILL develop secondary traits like a deeper voice facial hair etc.(this alone makes it worth it)

And last but most important is the muscle and physique halo especially when young.
It means 3x more under 18 span post this you’re confidence will skyrocket from t and your ego from physique.

If all I listed isn’t enough info to take advantage and make your own protocol just research more or don’t do it.

is starting a cycle with test and gh at 15 a good idea?

 

[Dio Brando]

is starting a cycle with test and gh at 15 a good idea?

Unless you can afford 15+ is of gh for mutiple years done even think about it just be healthy.
Androgens can 100% be worth it but time depends on person 15-17 is ideal.
Results for muscle and bone is all genetic and ar receptor dependant.
Do what you please with that and make you’re descision

 

[alchqmy]

Don't listen to this guy please pct if you don't your gonna be low t and feel like shit and depressed. Yes you'll still get your fertility back without pct, but that's not your problem rn. If your gonna run multiple cycles, then no dont. But if your this conservative and uneducated I wouldn't even recommend it. It's the side effects of coming of exogenous hormones while your natural hormone production has been significantly reduced that pct comes in for. Also, please if your going to take an ai use aromasin not arimadex.