In what phase of the Blackpill history did you join? [POLL] [HIGH EFFORT]

In which phase did you become blackpilled?

  • Phase 0

    Votes: 3 6.8%
  • Phase 1

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Phase 2

    Votes: 8 18.2%
  • Phase 2.5

    Votes: 21 47.7%
  • Phase 3

    Votes: 11 25.0%

  • Total voters
    44
Vantablack

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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
 
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face and bbc era
 
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Normie invasion
 
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Late 2022
 
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2020-2022 were the good times of blackpill spaces.
 
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2020-2022 were the good times of blackpill spaces.
how were they like? i left bp in 2019 after braincels got banned and rejoined after tiktok so i dont kniw much about it. what happened?
 
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I joined when james sapphire went viral the first time in like 2022 or something he had a discord server and and talked to him in vc
 
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I joined when james sapphire went viral the first time in like 2022 or something he had a discord server and and talked to him in vc
we have the same join date, mirin
 
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I joined when james sapphire went viral the first time in like 2022 or something he had a discord server and and talked to him in vc
Joined: Jun 12 2024
 
how were they like? i left bp in 2019 after braincels got banned and rejoined after tiktok so i dont kniw much about it. what happened?
ITV was making good vids digging into the blackpill. FaceandLMS streams were life fuel and a good cope. Incel.is still had actual trucels active instead of edgy normie teens who were rejected by a foid once and tried to fit in to the space.
 
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ITV was making good vids digging into the blackpill. FaceandLMS streams were life fuel and a good cope. Incel.is still had actual trucels active instead of edgy normie teens who were rejected by a foid once and tried to fit in to the space.
I thought FaceandLMS stopped being active around 2018?? was he still streaming after?
 
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I thought FaceandLMS stopped being active around 2018?? was he still streaming after?
His last stream was in like 2021 if I remember correctly. Ever since he’s just been inactive on his channel.
 
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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
early 2023
 
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Probably in early kshami and Dillion latham era around late 2022 early 2023
 
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phase 2.5, a few months before lookism collapsed. By the time I started posting there were like 20 active users or some shit.
 
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Summer 2023. Until then, I was somewhat aware of this whole thing, but I didn't know / expect it to go this deep down into a rabbit hole, so I stayed at a very superficial level so to speak until later..
 
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Summer 2023. Until then, I was somewhat aware of this whole thing, but I didn't know / expect it to go this deep down into a rabbit hole, so I stayed at a very superficial level so to speak until later..
damn ur a newcel i thought ud be a lot more og
 
damn ur a newcel i thought ud be a lot more og

Nah, I look good in real life and I'm 6'1, so until I joined this forum strictly out of curiosity and to better understand how to differentiate between people's levels of attractiveness, I had a normal, social and chill life (which I still have by the way, so I only use this forum for entertainment after I'm done with other classic social media platforms and have too much free time)
 
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i joined back when eve took adam and i was still alone
 
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Probably 2017/2016 or so. Not necessarily blackpilled but starting to get into a bunch of shit like mewing
 
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Probably 2017/2016 or so. Not necessarily blackpilled but starting to get into a bunch of shit like mewing
were u on the forums stuck to youtube?
 
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were u on the forums stuck to youtube?
I was on YouTube with a few forums and websites here and there. Was more of a lurker tho didn't make accounts and such. I did lurk a lot on reddit tho
 
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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
why did u mention indian looksmaxxers specifically are there too many of them?
 
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based, same

90% of all tiktok and instagram looksmaxxing ig pages are run by indians
if u search looksmaxxing transformation on yt ....half of them are indians ......(btw i am indian too:lul::lul:)
 
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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
I’ve known about the black pill since 2021 but finally accepted it to be nearly 100% true basically this year
 
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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
Phase 2
 
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I’ve known about the black pill since 2021 but finally accepted it to be nearly 100% true basically this year
What made you accept it finally?
 
What made you accept it finally?
I was a hamza type red piller really just focused on money and gym

But coming to dating apps after accending a little I have noticed a night and day difference before and also just researching more etc
 
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Phase 2 started off with Brett Maverick videos on mewing and Brae.
 
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Historically, blackpill can be broken into 3 distinct phases:

Phase 0 (1980s - 2008):

The pre-blackpill era, where lonely men were still bluepilled and incels paid for PUA courses in hopes to get laid.

Important events: Love-shy.net, Alana's incel project, PUAs, Redpill is born, Anti-feminism, game, frame, seduction, Cho.

The increasing criticism of Pick-Up artists and redpill concepts marks the end of this era.

Phase 1: Proto-Blackpill (~2009 - 2014):

Important events: PUAhate, Sluthate, ER, looks redpill, Orb, ForeverAlone, Incels, Chads/Stacies, r/theredpill - redpill goes mainstream, r/incels, mewing

Generally, this stage ends with ER, though it continues for a bit longer with Sluthate since blackpill isn't a widely used term yet.

Phase 2: Rise of Inceldom (~2015 - 2019)

ER was the first time that incels entered mainstream media, and the Blackpill entered mainstream use. Multiple documentaries by MSM focusing specifically on incels, widespread fear that ER would be repeated and talks of an "incel revolution" were common. Incels were seen as a genuine threat to society. Blackpill content was also gaining popularity on YouTube at this point.

Important events: Blackpill as genetic determinism, Lookism.net, FaceandLMS, Alek Minassian, r/incels is shut down, Saint Hamudi, Saint DBDR, r/braincels, incels.is, ITV, PSL scales, Objective rating metrics, looksmaxxing, BBC docu on incels, /r9k/ becomes blackpilled, Eggman goes viral, r/inceltears, SeargentIncel debates feminist, Whitepill, Purplepill, Pinkpill

Generally, this period ends with the shutdown of lookism.net, r/braincels and its evasion subs like r/shortcels all being banned.

Phase 2.5: Cooldown (~2020 - 2022)

Once lookism.net died and r/braincels got banned, there was a cooldown period of the blackpill. It left mainstream discourse for a while and resided in niche online forums. The redpill and Andrew Tate took spotlight during this time

Important Events: looksmax.org, incels.is becomes largest incel community, looksmaxxers start ascending, Wheat Waffles, Qoves Studio

Phase 3: Normie invasion (~2023 - Present)

Possibly the worst phase of the blackpill so far

Important events: James Sapphire, Dillon L, Looksmaxxing edits, Tiktok and IG explosion, .org goes mainstream, "bp" edits, Cookieverse, Blackpill becomes a trend/aesthetic for teenagers, Indian looksmaxxers
I discovered it with qoves studio but really got into it during 2024
 
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this video changed my life forever
 
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