"Inclusivist" white supremacists STILL don't accept Albanians, Maltese or Turks as "white".

[TheStonerOne]

There are types of white supremacists. All of them idiotic and absurd for clutching onto a social construct that is not scientific. But whatever.

The most "inclusivist" site aka Stormfront doesn't regard Maltese or Albanians as "white". This is the same site that bans people who argue Greeks aren't "white". Albanians are almost genetically and physically indistinguishable from mainland Greeks. They use genetic and physical arguments (we know religion plays a part too) to argue that Albanians "aren't white". These arguments apply to the same people (mainland Greeks) who they ban you for questioning their "whiteness". Make it make sense.

As for the Maltese, they probably saw some studies that clustered them with Jews and said "Nope, not white" and then decided it was thus. Wanna tell these guys about Maltese and Southern Italians? I'm sure they'll ban you for questioning the "whiteness" of Southern Italians or equating Southern Italians to Jews (which is what all studies do).

Turks are excluded but not Greeks. Even though Turks are closely related to Greeks and Southern Italians. Genetic distances between Greeks and Turks is substantially smaller than the same between Finns and Swedes. Speaking of Finns (and also Saami), these groups derive >10% of their ancestry from Eastern Eurasia. Why don't you kick Finns out of your "white race"?

This is what happens when you have a retarded ideology based on non-meaningful concepts. Nobody can define what a "white person" is and since admxiture varies between ethnic groups, purity of blood won't cut it.

 

[fwhr glazer]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

 

[Radio]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

The real white aryan countries are Uk North france Scandinavia germany austria india switzerland and parts of spain and portugal

 

[Brus Wane]

That's why different clubs and sects exist

No one can agree on who qualifies

There was a time Irish and Poles weren't white

These days even select Mediterraneans and Ashkenazis are whites

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

 

[fwhr glazer]

The real white aryan countries are Uk North france Scandinavia germany austria india switzerland and parts of spain and portugal

Yeah and Finland cus Finland is almost the same as Sweden geneticly also you forgot about gabon they are pure blooded aryans over there

 

[Radio]

Yeah and Finland cus Finland is almost the same as Sweden geneticly also you forgot about gabon they are pure blooded aryans over there

gabon and india

 

[hats9081]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

Nope all of europe is white, try again subversive cuck

 

[fwhr glazer]

Nope all of europe is white, try again subversive cuck

Holy fucking retard kill yourself

 

[VV62]

How does an incels opinion on whether im white or not do anything to help me get pussy?

 

[hats9081]

Holy fucking retard kill yourself

Nice argument

 

[fwhr glazer]

Nice argument

Tell my why they are white

 

[TheStonerOne]

Nope all of europe is white, try again subversive cuck

Does this concept apply to Turkish Thrace, Albania, Bosniaks, Ashkenazi and Western Sephardic Jews or do you not mean what you say?

 

[sadcel]

Yeah and Finland cus Finland is almost the same as Sweden geneticly also you forgot about gabon they are pure blooded aryans over there

lol wtf dude Finns are genetically asians

 

[jgrey080]

If Albanians are white then I'm ashamed of my race

 

[Marsiere214]

Albanians are gypsies imported from the Caucasus don’t even get me started on the turks
in regards to stormfront official stance on this here’s their official stance on south Italy

The myth of north african admixture in Sicily - Stormfront

I write this in English so that it can be a broader discussion. It is many times claimed that Sicily is an island that has a large North African and M

www.stormfront.org

 

[TheStonerOne]

Albanians are gypsies imported from the Caucasus don’t even get me started on the turks
in regards to stormfront official stance on this here’s their official stance on south Italy

The myth of north african admixture in Sicily - Stormfront

I write this in English so that it can be a broader discussion. It is many times claimed that Sicily is an island that has a large North African and M

www.stormfront.org

>Stormfront

Reading that might reduce my IQ by >25 points. No thanks. It's denialism to justify their inclusion of dark-skinned Levantine shifted people who aren't genetically distinguishable from (Ashkenazi) Jews. How can you love a people and deny their heritage?

If Albanians are 'Gypsies" from the Caucasus, then that ought to apply to (mainland) Greeks and even Northern Italians who significantly overlap with Albanians.

Turks are also closer to most Europeans than to Arabians and closer to Greeks, Romanians and Bulgarians than they are to Levantines.

 

[fwhr glazer]

lol wtf dude Finns are genetically asians

Most finns are geneticly swedish dumbass

 

[Marsiere214]

>Stormfront

Reading that might reduce my IQ by >25 points. No thanks. It's denialism to justify their inclusion of dark-skinned Levantine shifted people who aren't genetically distinguishable from (Ashkenazi) Jews. How can you love a people and deny their heritage?

If Albanians are 'Gypsies" from the Caucasus, then that ought to apply to (mainland) Greeks and even Northern Italians who significantly overlap with Albanians.

Turks are also closer to most Europeans than to Arabians and closer to Greeks, Romanians and Bulgarians than they are to Levantines.

Nigga ur literally crying over stormfront not accepting ur gypsy kind. It says if u have 0001% shitskin than ur not white. Greeks have 0 shitskin in them while u have 30%. U will never be white and u will always cry about it forever.

 

[TheStonerOne]

Nigga ur literally crying over stormfront not accepting ur gypsy kind. It says if u have 0001% shitskin than ur not white. Greeks have 0 shitskin in them while u have 30%. U will never be white and u will always cry about it forever.

Is significant Anatolian ancestry "shitskin"? If it is, then sorry, all Greeks would be "shitskin" by that stance. Albanians are genetically most like Macedonian Greeks so what applies to Macedonian Greeks applies to Albanians and vice versa. Any attempt to distinguish between mainland Greeks and Albanians is absurd. Also, all European populations have admixture to various degrees. I guess all Europeans are "shitskin" to a degree. One study even showed that the English are 10% Levantine. If the English are 10% Levantine and we KNOW that European genetics are clinal, what do you think the number would be for Greeks? Well and above 10%.

 

[Marsiere214]

Is significant Anatolian ancestry "shitskin"? If it is, then sorry, all Greeks would be "shitskin" by that stance. Albanians are genetically most like Macedonian Greeks so what applies to Macedonian Greeks applies to Albanians and vice versa. Any attempt to distinguish between mainland Greeks and Albanians is absurd. Also, all European populations have admixture to various degrees. I guess all Europeans are "shitskin" to a degree. One study even showed that the English are 10% Levantine. If the English are 10% Levantine and we KNOW that European genetics are clinal, what do you think the number would be for Greeks? Well and above 10%.

Just because they ar encloser to Greeks than to levantines that doesn’t make them non white they still have brown ancestry hence why they are not considered white. The ancient levantine is different from today’s Levantine.

 

[VohnnyBoy]

Nobody can define what a "white person" is

if you get sunburnt after 45 mins on the Sun and don’t have monolids, you’re white

 

[TheStonerOne]

Just because they ar encloser to Greeks than to levantines that doesn’t make them non white they still have brown ancestry hence why they are not considered white. The ancient levantine is different from today’s Levantine.

By "Levantine" we are talking about the ancestral components most common in modern Levantines and that has not changed. Unless you're talking about "Natufians" which is an ancient hunter gatherer Levantine ancestry that is most similar to modern day Arabians but is distinct from the farmer ancestry that is predominant in modern Levantines. That is the ancestry that is ~10% in Englishmen and not the Natufian ancestry. But that number is obviously higher in Albanians and ergo Greeks than in English people. English people are (obviously) not genetically closer to Greeks than to Albanians.

 

[Marsiere214]

By "Levantine" we are talking about the ancestral components most common in modern Levantines and that has not changed. Unless you're talking about "Natufians" which is an ancient hunter gatherer Levantine ancestry that is most similar to modern day Arabians but is distinct from the farmer ancestry that is predominant in modern Levantines. That is the ancestry that is ~10% in Englishmen and not the Natufian ancestry. But that number is obviously higher in Albanians and ergo Greeks than in English people. English people are (obviously) not genetically closer to Greeks than to Albanians.

The ancestry ur talking about is white ancestry that both groups share it is not ethnic and it’s not what makes ethnics different. Just because Greeks have more of it doesn’t make them less white. It’s East African ancestry and Arabian(I’m not talking about Arabian from the Islamic conquest).

 

[Roquefort]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

" pick one, get one for free " ahh cherry picking

 

[fwhr glazer]

" pick one, get one for free " ahh cherry picking

Its true though

 

[gribsufer1]

There are types of white supremacists. All of them idiotic and absurd for clutching onto a social construct that is not scientific. But whatever.

The most "inclusivist" site aka Stormfront doesn't regard Maltese or Albanians as "white". This is the same site that bans people who argue Greeks aren't "white". Albanians are almost genetically and physically indistinguishable from mainland Greeks. They use genetic and physical arguments (we know religion plays a part too) to argue that Albanians "aren't white". These arguments apply to the same people (mainland Greeks) who they ban you for questioning their "whiteness". Make it make sense.

As for the Maltese, they probably saw some studies that clustered them with Jews and said "Nope, not white" and then decided it was thus. Wanna tell these guys about Maltese and Southern Italians? I'm sure they'll ban you for questioning the "whiteness" of Southern Italians or equating Southern Italians to Jews (which is what all studies do).

Turks are excluded but not Greeks. Even though Turks are closely related to Greeks and Southern Italians. Genetic distances between Greeks and Turks is substantially smaller than the same between Finns and Swedes. Speaking of Finns (and also Saami), these groups derive >10% of their ancestry from Eastern Eurasia. Why don't you kick Finns out of your "white race"?

This is what happens when you have a retarded ideology based on non-meaningful concepts. Nobody can define what a "white person" is and since admxiture varies between ethnic groups, purity of blood won't cut it.

Mediterraneans are our own race!!!!! We need a Mediterranean superstate!!!!!

 

[whiteegyptian]

Not even the Baltics or Scandinavians are white, why do you want us to accept Maltese or latinized arab people as white?

 

[whiteegyptian]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

Not from here = not white.

 

[Roquefort]

Its true though

Factually incorrect. Greeks and romans have been using the whole mediterranean sea as their orgy for millenias. Saying that anything under rome is not white is like saying that anything outside of mongolia is not genghis khan calibrated. At this point the definition of " white " is just brown subhumans who include themselves and exclude all others and has lost all meaning. Now for real unbiased facts : Caucasians genes have spreaded nearly everywhere in the west and north african countries. The only white people should be the ones with blue eyes and coloured hairs ( red/blonde ) imo, and all the so called white scientists will cry about it cuz they cant larp anymore

 

[fwhr glazer]

Factually incorrect. Greeks and romans have been using the whole mediterranean sea as their orgy for millenias. Saying that anything under rome is not white is like saying that anything outside of mongolia is not genghis khan calibrated. At this point the definition of " white " is just brown subhumans who include themselves and exclude all others and has lost all meaning. Now for real unbiased facts : Caucasians genes have spreaded nearly everywhere in the west and north african countries. The only white people should be the ones with blue eyes and coloured hairs ( red/blonde ) imo, and all the so called white scientists will cry about it cuz they cant larp anymore

Well i mean there is exeptions but like i count if a person is white by the genes or like bone structure and like a person from bosnia is gonna be diffrent from a swede

 

[Olivecel]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

Finns are questionable. If they are Sami they are not fully white.
And Finnish samples drift quite far from the core European cluster on pca diagrams,

 

[Olivecel]

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They say “the ancient were whites, modern are mixed”. So they created a nice little loophole smh. Some serious we wuz shit

 

[Olivecel]

Yeah and Finland cus Finland is almost the same as Sweden geneticly also you forgot about gabon they are pure blooded aryans over there

Not true. Finns drift quite far from Swedes despite being direct neighbors,

Swedes are fully white. But Finns DO have Siberian admixture. All arguments against that are cope.

 

[fwhr glazer]

Not true. Finns drift quite far from Swedes despite being direct neighbors,
View attachment 4096978
Swedes are fully white. But Finns DO have Siberian admixture. All arguments against that are cope.

Wouldent they have mixed a lot by now so shouldent modern finns be almost as swedes

 

[Olivecel]

Nigga ur literally crying over stormfront not accepting ur gypsy kind. It says if u have 0001% shitskin than ur not white. Greeks have 0 shitskin in them while u have 30%. U will never be white and u will always cry about it forever.

Where did you pull those percentages, out of your ass?
Greeks are not fucking white. Neither are Albanians. They both look like a mix of Turks and Arabs.

 

[Olivecel]

Wouldent they have mixed a lot by now so shouldent modern finns be almost as swedes

That’s not what their dna shows.

 

[Olivecel]

Albanians are gypsies imported from the Caucasus don’t even get me started on the turks
in regards to stormfront official stance on this here’s their official stance on south Italy

The myth of north african admixture in Sicily - Stormfront

I write this in English so that it can be a broader discussion. It is many times claimed that Sicily is an island that has a large North African and M

www.stormfront.org

How is that their official stance? It looks a lot like coping Sicilian posting a 2 hour long essay on an outdated forum that nobody uses..

Here’s the reality:

Greek and southern Italian samples plot closer to Levantine samples than they do with northern/western Europeans.
This means, southern Euros in general are not fucking white.
Even Albanian samples plot very slightly closer to whites.

If you mixed a Lebanese with an Englishman, you’d get a Greek, Jew or an Italian..
Don’t believe me? Just observe the studies,

 

[Olivecel]

Just because they ar encloser to Greeks than to levantines that doesn’t make them non white they still have brown ancestry hence why they are not considered white. The ancient levantine is different from today’s Levantine.

I think he’s trying to say that Albanians and Greeks overlap genetically. And he is right.
Genetically they are almost indistinguishable,

Greek:

Albanian:

And their pca samples are nearly identical,

So yeah. If Albanians aren’t white then neither are your precious griks. Or similarly, if Greeks are white then so are Albanians..
It can’t be one without the other. It’s genetically impossible.

 

[Olivecel]

View attachment 4073484
Not from here = not white.

This better

 

[Nex Gen]

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This better

No, and I thought everyone knows that THIS GRAPH is literally BASIC INFORMATION which can EASILY be verified if you just WALK AROUND these countries. RED means the VAST MAJORITY have WHITE coloring as in PALE SKIN with COLORED EYES, also known as the ONLY definition that ACTUALLY matters -- the rest are either visibly BROWN or visibly MIXED on average.

Yes, FRANCE is in BLUE -- before RETARDS come at me, ALAIN DELON had a GERMAN mother which is why he has bright COLORED EYES and such a good SKULL SHAPE. It's VERY hard to find native French people that even SOMEWHAT resemble him on average -- and for good reason. Most of them have BROWN EYES, a weird face shape, and rather curly hair.

 

[DarkTriadBeliever]

View attachment 4041599

white supremacy is just Med supremacy, everything whites brag about came from the "Swarthy" ones

 

[whiteegyptian]

No, and I thought everyone knows that THIS GRAPH is literally BASIC INFORMATION which can EASILY be verified if you just WALK AROUND these countries. RED means the VAST MAJORITY have WHITE coloring as in PALE SKIN with COLORED EYES, also known as the ONLY definition that ACTUALLY matters -- the rest are either visibly BROWN or visibly MIXED on average.

Yes, FRANCE is in BLUE -- before RETARDS come at me, ALAIN DELON had a GERMAN mother which is why he has bright COLORED EYES and such a good SKULL SHAPE. It's VERY hard to find native French people that even SOMEWHAT resemble him on average -- and for good reason. Most of them have BROWN EYES, a weird face shape, and rather curly hair.

View attachment 4097057

You might be describing whatever ethnic nation you came from, not even in Corsica do people look like this and trust me they are hell a Italian, a lot of French mog Delon, are you even serious?

 

[Nex Gen]

You might be describing whatever ethnic nation you came from, not even in Corsica do people look like this and trust me they are hell a Italian, a lot of French mog Delon, are you even serious?

Nice joke, the VAST MAJORITY of French people look like these two pictures -- which you would KNOW very well if you ever stepped a FOOT outside of fucking EGYPT already.

 

[whiteegyptian]

Nice joke, the VAST MAJORITY of French people resemble these two images -- which you would KNOW very well if you ever stepped a FOOT outside of fucking EGYPT already.

View attachment 4097124View attachment 4097126

Random French youtuber

Random French civilian (mogs Delon, JFL at you punk)

By the way, nice try

 

[Marsiere214]

Where did you pull those percentages, out of your ass?
Greeks are not fucking white. Neither are Albanians. They both look like a mix of Turks and Arabs.

Nigga ur a gypsy ethnic focusing over a minority population I can rn show u London and make the argument that the British rnt white

How is that their official stance? It looks a lot like coping Sicilian posting a 2 hour long essay on an outdated forum that nobody uses..

Here’s the reality:
View attachment 4097002
Greek and southern Italian samples plot closer to Levantine samples than they do with northern/western Europeans.
This means, southern Euros in general are not fucking white.
Even Albanian samples plot very slightly closer to whites.

If you mixed a Lebanese with an Englishman, you’d get a Greek, Jew or an Italian..
Don’t believe me? Just observe the studies,
View attachment 4097011

Yes the Lebanese have admit from white invaders no shit u retard the point they r making is that the Lebanese have non ehite admin not the Sicilians

I think he’s trying to say that Albanians and Greeks overlap genetically. And he is right.
Genetically they are almost indistinguishable,

Greek:
View attachment 4097035
Albanian:
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And their pca samples are nearly identical,
View attachment 4097039

So yeah. If Albanians aren’t white then neither are your precious griks. Or similarly, if Greeks are white then so are Albanians..
It can’t be one without the other. It’s genetically impossible.

except that they r not there’s no peer reviewed university genome research on albania and on the Albanians what kept the Greeks white was that Christianity seperated intermarriage with non whites and no Greeks r white because they don’t have mom white admix while Albos do even if its 1% non white according to stormfront. I don’t get why u ethnics r so obsessed with south euros and trying to prove them being mena, what do u get out of it?

 

[Olivecel]

You must be Italian or Greek smh..

Nigga ur a gypsy ethnic focusing over a minority population I can rn show u London and make the argument that the British rnt white

Gypsies have their own group and don’t mix with ethnic Albanians, Romanians, Greeks, etc.

Yes the Lebanese have admit from white invaders no shit u retard the point they r making is that the Lebanese have non ehite admin not the Sicilians

You’ve got it all wrong.
Lebanese do have white admix, but Greeks and southern Italians also have MENA admix. That’s exactly how they plot fairly close genetically and almost meet in the middle, because they both share similar amounts of MENA/European admix.
Why do you think Ashkenazi samples plot alongside southern Italian and Greek samples? It’s because they originate from the Levant, but have mixed with Europeans. So they all share similar amounts of MENA/European admix.

This is the genetic composition of mainland Greeks from Attica:

Ashkenazi Jew:

Sicilian:

Lebanese:

As you can see above , Greeks and Italians are the only people in Europe with any amount of Iranian Neolithic, Caucasus HG and Natufian ancestries.
Those ancestral components are alien to the white race. Those are MENA components..

except that they r not there’s no peer reviewed university genome research on albania

Nigga so how exactly did you come to your conclusion then? Smh..
And it doesn’t matter. Because every time an Albanian does a DNA test it results in similar composition to mainland Greeks (more specifically from the north)..
FYI I’m not trying to say Albanians are white. I’m just telling you that Greeks and Albanians are equally not white.

what kept the Greeks white was that Christianity seperated intermarriage with non whites

Greeks were mixed since before the Ottoman period.
It dates all the way back to the Bronze Age.
Beyond the Neolithic Revolution, the Greek peninsula specifically has been receiving waves of migrations from Anatolia and the Levant since the Bronze Age and onward. And no, they weren’t “white during that time period”, as DNA studies do not support that. Pure Bronze Age Anatolian samples match closely with modern populations of Anatolia and the Levant.
Furthermore the population exchange between Greece and Turkey, which resulted in waves of even more heavily mixed Greeks from various parts of Anatolia, the Caucasus, North Africa and the Levant to immigrate to their newly created nation of Greece in the 1920’s.

and no Greeks r white because they don’t have mom white admix

They do, as shown in the DNA results above

Here’s another look for you:

I highlighted all the non-white components.

while Albos do even if its 1% non white according to stormfront.

Fuck Stormfront. They don’t know shit.
They don’t care about the science. They just pick and choose based on who they like and don’t like.
I used to be a member.
A moderator specifically stated that anybody who is not R1b, R1a or I2, is not white. So by that logic, why are Greeks white if they are mostly J2 and E1b (just like Albanians)??
It’s because they pick and choose. SF is full of contradictive inbreds.
And apparently, neither you or Stormfront can make that decision if there is no “college based study on the Albanian genome”. The only thing we to base off of are the many individual DNA tests of Albanians who all share a similar composition to Greek ones..

I don’t get why u ethnics r so obsessed with south euros

Because southern Euros are ethnic but always deny it. They’re always trying to get the white-pass.
If they didn’t care so much themselves, nobody else would talk about it.

and trying to prove them being mena, what do u get out of it?

The truth.

 

[Olivecel]

No, and I thought everyone knows that THIS GRAPH is literally BASIC INFORMATION which can EASILY be verified if you just WALK AROUND these countries. RED means the VAST MAJORITY have WHITE coloring as in PALE SKIN with COLORED EYES, also known as the ONLY definition that ACTUALLY matters -- the rest are either visibly BROWN or visibly MIXED on average.

Yes, FRANCE is in BLUE -- before RETARDS come at me, ALAIN DELON had a GERMAN mother which is why he has bright COLORED EYES and such a good SKULL SHAPE. It's VERY hard to find native French people that even SOMEWHAT resemble him on average -- and for good reason. Most of them have BROWN EYES, a weird face shape, and rather curly hair.

View attachment 4097057

wtf how are Belarusians white but not Ukrainians? They are the same shit.
And Finns white but not French? With all that Siberian admix, you gotta be kidding..

 

[Nex Gen]

wtf how are Belarusians white but not Ukrainians? They are the same shit.
And Finns white but not French? With all that Siberian admix, you gotta be kidding..

No, the VAST MAJORITY of Ukrainians have dark hair and brown eyes -- Belarus and Russia have FAR MORE fair people with colored eyes. And I only put Russia in GREEN because the country is just so MASSIVE that half of it is considered part of Asia -- what everyone considers EUROPEAN Russia as in Moscow and all that, the average person is quite pale with LOTS of colored eyes. As for Finns -- nearly ALL of them have not just pale skin but also fair hair and NINETY PERCENT have blue eyes, they are phenotypically WHITE as fuck.

 

[Olivecel]

No, the VAST MAJORITY of Ukrainians have dark hair and brown eyes -- Belarus and Russia have FAR MORE fair people with colored eyes. And I only put Russia in GREEN because the country is just so MASSIVE that half of it is considered part of Asia -- what everyone considers EUROPEAN Russia as in Moscow and all that, the average person is quite pale with LOTS of colored eyes. As for Finns -- nearly ALL of them have not just pale skin but also fair hair and NINETY PERCENT have blue eyes, they are phenotypically WHITE as fuck.

I think the only disqualification for hair color is pure black hair.
No white people have pure black hair.
Dark brown maybe questionable if it’s dark enough to look black in most cases.
But anything between blonde, dirty blonde/light brown and brunette are considered white hair colors.
Blonde is not the only white hair color..
Most Ukrainians are brunette like other Slavs.

As for Finns it’s not only about their skin and hair color. It’s more than that. White is also a facial phenotype, and for many Finns you can easily see Siberian admix, especially ones like Sami.