Infinite surgery loop

[lurking truecel]

Its seems to be happening with everyone who does surgery. I have been talking with people from jaw surgery groups, plastic surgery groups etc. They are all in surgery infinite loop. Some are more hardstuck then others like the jaw surgery people doing 3 bimaxes because they want to fine tunes millimeters.

But the thing is you think you are smart enough go not get stuck but for some reason everyone do. And i mean everyone, no matter what. People will say cap untill they are innit themselves.

I think its a memtal illness thing for sure

 

[tansel]

when are u coming back to offtopic dude

 

[lurking truecel]

when are u coming back to offtopic dude

2 min

 

[Shobek]

I must admit- despite telling myself I'd hardmaxx once and get off this forsaken site for good- I've caught myself contemplating more surgeries ever since recovering from the first. It’s like it flipped a switch, and now I’m hyper-analyzing every inch of my face, noticing flaws I never saw before.

Very unsettling place to be in. Especially since I genuinely believe if you are atleast decent looking and tall, its really down to being NT and nonchalant rather than neurotic and weird lol.

 

[ascension to heaven]

Im just doing more for the love of the game atp

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Its seems to be happening with everyone who does surgery. I have been talking with people from jaw surgery groups, plastic surgery groups etc. They are all in surgery infinite loop. Some are more hardstuck then others like the jaw surgery people doing 3 bimaxes because they want to fine tunes millimeters.

But the thing is you think you are smart enough go not get stuck but for some reason everyone do. And i mean everyone, no matter what. People will say cap untill they are innit themselves.

I think its a memtal illness thing for sure

In order to get surgery, you have to be mentally ready for anything that might happen, as the user @key used to say, know when to stop.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

surgery is so cool why’d you ever want to stop

 

[lurking truecel]

surgery is so cool why’d you ever want to stop

TRue innit

 

[Foreverbrad]

Rich people problems. Surgery is one-in-lifetime chance for most of us. You’re choosing this instead of house deposit and you’re 30+ before affording it. I guess the majority who actually get surgery done aren’t wageslaves who followed through with that grind. Just come from parents money so you don’t equate a bimax to thousands or even tens of thousands of hours of pure suffering.

 

[lurking truecel]

Rich people problems. Surgery is one-in-lifetime chance for most of us. You’re choosing this instead of house deposit and you’re 30+ before affording it. I guess the majority who actually get surgery done aren’t wageslaves who followed through with that grind. Just come from parents money so you don’t equate a bimax to thousands or even tens of thousands of hours of pure suffering.

Damn yea true i guess, surgery is crazy expensive

 

[ascension to heaven]

Rich people problems. Surgery is one-in-lifetime chance for most of us. You’re choosing this instead of house deposit and you’re 30+ before affording it. I guess the majority who actually get surgery done aren’t wageslaves who followed through with that grind. Just come from parents money so you don’t equate a bimax to thousands or even tens of thousands of hours of pure suffering.

have you tried not being poor ? its pretty good, you should try it

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Rich people problems. Surgery is one-in-lifetime chance for most of us. You’re choosing this instead of house deposit and you’re 30+ before affording it. I guess the majority who actually get surgery done aren’t wageslaves who followed through with that grind. Just come from parents money so you don’t equate a bimax to thousands or even tens of thousands of hours of pure suffering.

Or you can get it via a good job with the degree, e-commerce or company in general.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Or you can get it via a good job with the degree, e-commerce or company in general.

Good job with the degree = doing surgery in mid to late twenty’s. I mean it’s still ok but ideally you want ts yesterday

 

[lurking truecel]

Good job with the degree = doing surgery in mid to late twenty’s. I mean it’s still ok but ideally you want ts yesterday

yea over 23 its over nonetheless

 

[Foreverbrad]

Or you can get it via a good job with the degree, e-commerce or company in general.

I find it ironic on the black pill forum that people still think you can get a good job while having outstanding surgery requirements. I am not talking about the 2mm bimax retards but people who actually need it. These jobs are locked behind connections and nepotism.

An average job (median wage) here in the UK will not allow you to save at a rate of more than a few thousand a year. Practically, this is what a degree without being able to make connections will get you, with no progression possible. So you finish university at say 23 or 24 and it still takes you five years to scrape together the money for a jaw surgery in Turkey.

The other options are a joke and survivor biased.

 

[Deleted member 139731]

yea over 23 its over nonetheless

id say if ur done with ts at 25 ur fine. starting surgeries in the higher 20s or even 30s is just not it

 

[lurking truecel]

id say if ur done with ts at 25 ur fine. starting surgeries in the higher 20s or even 30s is just not it

I mean at 25 its over no cap, i mean its for charity most surgery

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

id say if ur done with ts at 25 ur fine. starting surgeries in the higher 20s or even 30s is just not it

I agree. Only kiddos think 25+ is old.
But at 30 you’ve wasted valuable validation from the world around you and also your soft tissue will not recover properly I think

 

[lurking truecel]

I agree. Only kiddos think 25+ is old.
But at 30 you’ve wasted valuable validation from the world around you and also your soft tissue will not recover properly I think

25+ isnt old

 

[Animepilled]

id say if ur done with ts at 25 ur fine. starting surgeries in the higher 20s or even 30s is just not it

So it's better to be deformed at 30 than not? at 40? i think if you actually need smth like bimax you should do it at any age

 

[Deleted member 139731]

So it's better to be deformed at 30 than not? at 40? i think if you actually need smth like bimax you should do it at any age

do u understand the english language

 

[lurking truecel]

So it's better to be deformed at 30 than not? at 40? i think if you actually need smth like bimax you should do it at any age

At 40 you wont recover well

 

[Deleted member 139731]

I agree. Only kiddos think 25+ is old.
But at 30 you’ve wasted valuable validation from the world around you and also your soft tissue will not recover properly I think

if your a bimax candidate, get that shit in your very early 20s and fine tunes after your bones heal asap

 

[Animepilled]

do u understand the english language

ur saying at 30+ is not it. wdym its not it. by that logic at 25 it is not it and you should do it at 16

 

[Deleted member 139731]

ur saying at 30+ is not it. wdym its not it. by that logic at 25 it is not it and you should do it at 16

if your a bimax candidate, get that shit in your very early 20s and fine tunes after your bones heal asap

 

[Animepilled]

At 40 you wont recover well

Not for a fact. Statistically yeah but there are people recovering well at 50 and having permanent numbness at 20

 

[Kyriae]

Money is the limit, can't be spending thousands anymore with these bills as a 30+ with responsibilities.

 

[lurking truecel]

Money is the limit, can't be spending thousands anymore with these bills as a 30+ with responsibilities.

ofc you can

 

[lurking truecel]

Not for a fact. Statistically yeah but there are people recovering well at 50 and having permanent numbness at 20

Yea i mean its the surgeon skilled thats important for numbness, but some bines and soft tissue will not reattach at that age good

 

[Animepilled]

You just need to realize that surgery is for correcting deformities, not fine tuning minor things. Fix what catches the eye instantly. Have receded hair-get a transplant. Big ears-otoplasty, hooked nose-rhino etc
Doing it for milimeters is mental illness and it's important to recognize it.

 

[zemult]

You just need to realize that surgery is for correcting deformities, not fine tuning minor things. Fix what catches the eye instantly. Have receded hair-get a transplant. Big ears-otoplasty, hooked nose-rhino etc
Doing it for milimeters is mental illness and it's important to recognize it.

It gets harder when you're still ugly with no easily fixable deformities

I could see myself falling into the same trap

 

[lurking truecel]

You just need to realize that surgery is for correcting deformities, not fine tuning minor things. Fix what catches the eye instantly. Have receded hair-get a transplant. Big ears-otoplasty, hooked nose-rhino etc
Doing it for milimeters is mental illness and it's important to recognize it.

Yea surgery should be a very rare thing, when people start doing small nitpicking stuff it usually just turns to shit

 

[Kyriae]

ofc you can

That's a suboptimal option when you should be saving for possible bad outcomes financially.

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Its seems to be happening with everyone who does surgery. I have been talking with people from jaw surgery groups, plastic surgery groups etc. They are all in surgery infinite loop. Some are more hardstuck then others like the jaw surgery people doing 3 bimaxes because they want to fine tunes millimeters.

But the thing is you think you are smart enough go not get stuck but for some reason everyone do. And i mean everyone, no matter what. People will say cap untill they are innit themselves.

I think its a memtal illness thing for sure

what are you talking about?

R u tryna say ppl get botched cuz they wont stop with the surgeries?

 

[Kyriae]

More on age and cosmetic surgeries. I'm not sure about the median age for hair-transplants but it has to be 35+. The view on here that you have to be much younger to cash in on surgeries is a bit off.
In the 30-40 bracket you're going to benefit greatly from the aforementioned and being lean.

 

[lurking truecel]

what are you talking about?

R u tryna say ppl get botched cuz they wont stop with the surgeries?

Nah people get addicted, but being botched slighlty if you do many surgeries is not uncommon

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I find it ironic on the black pill forum that people still think you can get a good job while having outstanding surgery requirements. I am not talking about the 2mm bimax retards but people who actually need it. These jobs are locked behind connections and nepotism.

An average job (median wage) here in the UK will not allow you to save at a rate of more than a few thousand a year. Practically, this is what a degree without being able to make connections will get you, with no progression possible. So you finish university at say 23 or 24 and it still takes you five years to scrape together the money for a jaw surgery in Turkey.

The other options are a joke and survivor biased.

Ofc, job market is kinda fucked and nepotism is what you need, and i kean you can go around your family members or cousins that may do a referral for you to a company they work in to get you a job.

For me is kinda worse since i am in CS but it's double degree tho, so i have much more options.

It depends on your situation at the end, some people might need 30k+ for surgeries and some might need less, yes i do know what you say, prices are high everywhere and it won't allow you to save much, still better than a minimum on economy salary.

 

[dhusc]

Its seems to be happening with everyone who does surgery. I have been talking with people from jaw surgery groups, plastic surgery groups etc. They are all in surgery infinite loop. Some are more hardstuck then others like the jaw surgery people doing 3 bimaxes because they want to fine tunes millimeters.

But the thing is you think you are smart enough go not get stuck but for some reason everyone do. And i mean everyone, no matter what. People will say cap untill they are innit themselves.

I think its a memtal illness thing for sure

yeah it’s a constant chase for perfection

 

[lurking truecel]

More on age and cosmetic surgeries. I'm not sure about the median age for hair-transplants but it has to be 35+. The view on here that you have to be much younger to cash in on surgeries is a bit off.
In the 30-40 bracket you're going to benefit greatly from the aforementioned and being lean.

Depends on the goals you have with surgery. If its for slaying and actually having a better life because of looks you need to get it early since looks do in fact get less important eith age because girls start go caring about the other things. Sure its possible to slay younger foids still but its a weird dynamic and prob mentally degrading

 

[Foreverbrad]

It depends on your situation at the end, some people might need 30k+ for surgeries and some might need less, yes i do know what you say, prices are high everywhere and it won't allow you to save much, still better than a minimum on economy salary.

My personal take on it is that with minimum wage you can live at parents and probably save more than with a “degree” job that will force you to relocate and pay rent.

For an incel there is zero motivation to move out.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Depends on the goals you have with surgery. If its for slaying and actually having a better life because of looks you need to get it early since looks do in fact get less important eith age because girls start go caring about the other things. Sure its possible to slay younger foids still but its a weird dynamic and prob mentally degrading

Looks don’t get less important with age, it’s just Money and Status become hard requirements rather than halos. You still need the looks or you are going to be dead bedroom betabux or escortmaxxing.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

My personal take on it is that with minimum wage you can live at parents and probably save more than with a “degree” job that will force you to relocate and pay rent.

For an incel there is zero motivation to move out.

I do agree with you, but having a degree doesn't hurt much, you're standing on something that many people don't, it gives you more opportunities.

Having a job via a degree and living at your parents house is actually very good (don't know much in England, but here in Romania, having a degree, finding a job as a junior dev is actually much better than a 600 euro salary (not even 600 tho), it varies around 1500-2000 euros.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

It gets harder when you're still ugly with no easily fixable deformities

I could see myself falling into the same trap

I mean, it's much better to have bdd than an actual botch or 30k badly spent.

 

[lurking truecel]

Looks don’t get less important with age, it’s just Money and Status become hard requirements rather than halos. You still need the looks or you are going to be dead bedroom betabux or escortmaxxing.

Yea sure, its just gets less important compared to young and most options are out of the water either way. But its better then being worse looking for sure

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Looks don’t get less important with age, it’s just Money and Status become hard requirements rather than halos. You still need the looks or you are going to be dead bedroom betabux or escortmaxxing.

Very true.
And thats without talking about extreme cases where a really good looking guy can navigate through life with a bum lifestyle and still fuck and find girls all over the place

 

[zemult]

I mean, it's much better to have bdd than an actual botch or 30k badly spent.

It's important to be aware about your limitations and the ROI of what procedures you are looking into

Some people are just going to be ugly no matter what. Some people are just abused dog mentalcels.

TikTok blowing up this space has created this false idea that every surgery is a linear improvement, that everyone's flaws can be easily corrected with X and Y procedures. Surgeries are done on operating tables not photoshop canvases

 

[Lefor3Laser]

It's important to be aware about your limitations and the ROI of what procedures you are looking into

Some people are just going to be ugly no matter what. Some people are just abused dog mentalcels.

TikTok blowing up this space has created this false idea that every surgery is a linear improvement, that everyone's flaws can be easily corrected with X and Y procedures. Surgeries are done on operating tables not photoshop canvases

Yep and we are talking about the fundamentals, it's much deeper and you need to take alot into consideration.

And there are always alternatives, i see alot of people whom suggest for example infraorbital implant, yes some people do need it, but alot of people don't, it's about soft tissue and fat grafts.

I can talk about alot of misunderstood stuff on the lookism subjects and surgery subjects for a full week and they still wouldn't be done.

My point is that it isn't 1 magic word that turns everyone into a chad, close to what you said basically.

 

[lurking truecel]

It's important to be aware about your limitations and the ROI of what procedures you are looking into

Some people are just going to be ugly no matter what. Some people are just abused dog mentalcels.

TikTok blowing up this space has created this false idea that every surgery is a linear improvement, that everyone's flaws can be easily corrected with X and Y procedures. Surgeries are done on operating tables not photoshop canvases

Yea unfortuntaley no one on this site has any idea of the actual limitation with diffrent procedures. Also people and unfortuntley surgeons dont even go into the complexity of achieving diffrent things. Many surgeon are just yes man trying to sell there product. And most people trust surgeons or incompetent people overall.

 

[vermicel]

yea over 23 its over nonetheless

 

[lurking truecel]

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i mean for some things its over, for living a decent life ofc not.