Insane CCW rotation from chewing with front teeth compared to molars.

TL;DR:Chewing with your front teeth/premolars may cause CCW (counterclockwise) rotation of the maxilla, improving facial structure and under-eye support. A Redditor’s tennis ball chewing experiment showed wild results (Pics at the bottom). Theory supported by studies and r/orthotropics discussion.
CCW = Counterclockwise,
CW = Clockwise
Orbitals, Maxilla = Skull bones

Pictures of results included at the bottom.

The following post explores a theory about CCW rotation based on chewing with incisor, front teeth and premolars.
A member of the Reviv community asked me about a method that I discovered, but this isn’t what the post is about, this post is about an answer I came up to one of her questions but this answered derailed and led me to somewhere else, the following results you will see from chewing with your front teeth are mind blowing, and a Reddit member of r/orthotropics suggests this as well. in his post that I will provide shortly. the results you are about to see stems down from an individual chewing on a tennis ball with teeth in his front palate, although this may sound crazy, the results speak from themselves and studies provided below also suggest this as well, although I doubt they were inherently speaking about chewing on a tennis ball, hahaha. , {you are free to skip this part, the text below is from the redditor and studies are cited supporting his claim. Results are below ⬇️} r/orthotropics. (3 yr. ago)
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“Chewing on all of your teeths to balance the maxilla CW or CCW (theory)
Chewing with a molars pattern causes an increase in length by rotating the maxilla clockwise, this is due to when chewing with the molars it applies an upwards force to the back of the maxilla, when you an apply a force to one end of something, it will cause a rotation and in this case it rotates the maxilla clockwise
This is why despite being properly developed native americans have long midfaces and not top tier undereye support (as the maxilla rotates CW the orbitals move down reducing undereye support.) It is due to their strenuous chewing which thereby rotates their maxilla clockwise
Changes in maxilla rotation would be very slow you would have to chew for a long time to get results, but they can be attained nonetheless
you can counter this by chewing a more frontal part of the palate, like the premolars which would redistribute the force to a more centralized position and cause just an upwards translation with no rotation.

Source for CCW rotation and biting force https://www.researchgate.net/public...h_Class_III_Malocclusion_A_Preliminary_Report

You are free to look more into the study yourself. I will provide you with results of an individual which I previously described as chewing on a tennis ball with his frontteeth, these results are mind blowing and show an incredible amount of CCW rotation.
Notes, I have lined areas in his face so that one may see the rotation he has achieved in a greater depth, as if it wasn’t apparent how much he has achieved hahah.
(The first photo of before results, only contains red lines, his results contain, blue and Red and purple.) and I will also include a more up to date photo of his.

[ I hope one of you at worst have found this post entertaining and at best helpful and informative with their journey :) ]
His original post link (https://looksmax.org/threads/chew-tennis-ball-bnssmashing-gonionals-results.1298979/#post-19060732)

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PSA, if you think all he did was rotate his head downwards, if you have anteriorly rotated ears, like how he used to have, go in a mirror record urself and try tilting ur head so your ears are straight, you will see that’s not what he did. These are real results.:feelsgah::feelsgood:

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What’s your age?

And what do you mean by letting the open bite close?
Currently, do your front teeth lay flat on each other?
My age is 16 turned march 13, but no matter how old you are, teeth don’t upright like that and in a month and 7 days, I mean once you have an open bite don’t let it close, you are supposed to keep it open all the time by wearing the device.
 
mirin high effort & lifefuel for many, however…









there’s one big issue with all of this, and let daddy explain exactly what it is:

OP of THIS thread knows fuckall about anatomical landmarks. when it comes to things like this, it is very important that every measurement is done and compared properly, else it is simply misleading.

so what i did, was take 2 assessments: recession line assessment relative to the frankfort plane, and maxillary projection angle.

here are the results for the frankfort plane (i even aligned them for you:)):
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as you can see, unfortunately, 0 change in forward growth;

maxillary projection angle:
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again, 26°->26°.

the only difference that i can see at all is mayyyyybe minor changes in his nasofrontal angle, and mayyyyyyyyyyyyybe even more minor changes in his mentolabial angle, which i am not going to measure.

also he is clinically recessed, so he should definitely get that checked out, as this is now more medical, than cosmetic (maybe this way he can even get free bimax!)

best of luck:p
 
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mirin high effort & lifefuel for many, however…









there’s one big issue with all of this, and let daddy explain exactly what it is:

OP of THIS thread knows fuckall about anatomical landmarks. when it comes to things like this, it is very important that every measurement is done and compared properly, else it is simply misleading.

so what i did, was take 2 assessments: recession line assessment relative to the frankfort plane, and maxillary projection angle.

here are the results for the frankfort plane (i even aligned them for you:)):
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as you can see, unfortunately, 0 change in forward growth;

maxillary projection angle:
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again, 26°->26°.

the only difference that i can see at all is mayyyyybe minor changes in his nasofrontal angle, and mayyyyyyyyyyyyybe even more minor changes in his mentolabial angle, which i am not going to measure.

also he is clinically recessed, so he should definitely get that checked out, as this is now more medical, than cosmetic (maybe this way he can even get free bimax!)

best of luck:p
I agree with the majority and rep for mirin, I’m just curious as to how he may be clinically recessed, care to explain more?
 
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I agree with the majority, I’m just curious as to how he may be clinically recessed, care to explain more?
his chin is behind his nasion in frankfort plane
 
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his chin is behind his nasion in frankfort plane
Appreciate high effort reply to this btw and thanks for the reply, hey I got a question abt my teeth progress just looking for the inputs of others, this is just wearing an 8 dollar mouthguard from Temu, I posted a vid abt it in threads, here it is,
(Uploaded on other acc cause I didn’t like the audio )
 
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