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grow a fucking beard ngl

lets be honest 99% of you wont get bimax cuz its a brutal recovery, often doesnt get u the desired results and is too expensive, also u mostly also need genio + implants to not look dogmaxxed

all normies without super good forward growth grow beards (even they know about minoxidil and dermaroller btw) and fraud their jaw

its no lie that a beard is the mans makeup

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he would literally be subhuman without his warrior beard
 
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Honestly for most people Botox or a hair transplant is a bigger looksmax than jaw surgery
No one here is getting that invasive surgery let’s be real
 
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Honestly for most people Botox or a hair transplant is a bigger looksmax than jaw surgery
No one here is getting that invasive surgery let’s be real
its psl autism. ofc its ideal to have a chad jaw but its just too much effort (~2-3 years braces, months of no proper chewing, 20-30k euros with proper surgeons and 1/4 complication rate)

most normie looksmaxes (haircut, skincare, gym and style) are all what you need if ur ltn+
 
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its psl autism. ofc its ideal to have a chad jaw but its just too much effort (~2-3 years braces, months of no proper chewing, 20-30k euros with proper surgeons and 1/4 complication rate)

most normie looksmaxes (haircut, skincare, gym and style) are all what you need if ur ltn+
And not to sound bluepilled but personality / social skills kinda matters. You need to be able to talk to people not just for dating but for life in general. Only really good looking people can get away with not being social and even then it’s still a failio.
 
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Collagen and Hair is all what a man's need for a graceful aging
 
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Honestly for most people Botox or a hair transplant is a bigger looksmax than jaw surgery
No one here is getting that invasive surgery let’s be real
Botox or fillers?
 
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grow a fucking beard ngl

lets be honest 99% of you wont get bimax cuz its a brutal recovery, often doesnt get u the desired results and is too expensive, also u mostly also need genio + implants to not look dogmaxxed

all normies without super good forward growth grow beards (even they know about minoxidil and dermaroller btw) and fraud their jaw

its no lie that a beard is the mans makeup

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he would literally be subhuman without his warrior beard
you still need a jaw.
 
you still need a jaw.
what for? a girl who finds u gl with a beard most likely doesnt want u to shave anyways

ofc u cant be subhuman tier recessed cuz even then a beard fraud doesnt work
 
what for? a girl who finds u gl with a beard most likely doesnt want u to shave anyways

ofc u cant be subhuman tier recessed cuz even then a beard fraud doesnt work
They do dig it.

It adds up to your ruggedness
 
grow a fucking beard ngl

lets be honest 99% of you wont get bimax cuz its a brutal recovery, often doesnt get u the desired results and is too expensive, also u mostly also need genio + implants to not look dogmaxxed

all normies without super good forward growth grow beards (even they know about minoxidil and dermaroller btw) and fraud their jaw

its no lie that a beard is the mans makeup

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he would literally be subhuman without his warrior beard
Jfl at you for beliving beard cope. I look best clean shaven.
 
I have the worst beard genetics on the planet
 
its psl autism. ofc its ideal to have a chad jaw but its just too much effort (~2-3 years braces, months of no proper chewing, 20-30k euros with proper surgeons and 1/4 complication rate)

most normie looksmaxes (haircut, skincare, gym and style) are all what you need if ur ltn+
You can find a competent surgeon wich does agree on your movments for chepaer than 30k, planning and communication is the key, you can get almost the same result from a locak surgeon, ofc it will matter on who you choose but in the end the results you'll get are based on your communication with the surgeon.
 
You can find a competent surgeon wich does agree on your movments for chepaer than 30k, planning and communication is the key, you can get almost the same result from a locak surgeon, ofc it will matter on who you choose but in the end the results you'll get are based on your communication with the surgeon.
not sure, from my experience unknown surgeons usually do bad jobs (i look at before/afters regularly)

an unknown surgeon in germany still charges 10-12k for bimax alone, gl looking non autistic without genio and implanta
 
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Beard is cope if you have health and functional issues
 
not sure, from my experience unknown surgeons usually do bad jobs (i look at before/afters regularly)

an unknown surgeon in germany still charges 10-12k for bimax alone, gl looking non autistic without genio and implanta
Indeed, but many of those people don't know what to discuss with the surgeon and what aesthetic outcome they want, if you know what to ask from the surgeon you'll surely get it right, also if the surgeon doesn't feel right you can always talk with another one, don't forget that many of the good bimax results come from uknown surgeons, also what the person had before aka base matters tho.
 
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If your jaw is recessed to a point it will always come with health and functional issues.
Also crooked teeth, lisps and the other indirect health issues you‘ll get over time.
 
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its psl autism. ofc its ideal to have a chad jaw but its just too much effort (~2-3 years braces, months of no proper chewing, 20-30k euros with proper surgeons and 1/4 complication rate)

most normie looksmaxes (haircut, skincare, gym and style) are all what you need if ur ltn+
Honestly for most people Botox or a hair transplant is a bigger looksmax than jaw surgery
No one here is getting that invasive surgery let’s be real
@chrishell ascended his jaw with double jaw surgery and it actually ascended him hard

Took him from recessed boy to masculine I seen pics
 
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If your jaw is recessed to a point it will always come with health and functional issues.
Also crooked teeth, lisps and the other indirect health issues you‘ll get over time.
ye if you got sleep apnea from recessed jaw u definitely need it
 
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grow a fucking beard ngl

lets be honest 99% of you wont get bimax cuz its a brutal recovery, often doesnt get u the desired results and is too expensive, also u mostly also need genio + implants to not look dogmaxxed

all normies without super good forward growth grow beards (even they know about minoxidil and dermaroller btw) and fraud their jaw

its no lie that a beard is the mans makeup

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he would literally be subhuman without his warrior beard
hes still ugly
 
I can grow a good beard but foids are wise to this shit.
Clean shaven or incel in 2025 tbh.
 
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And not to sound bluepilled but personality / social skills kinda matters. You need to be able to talk to people not just for dating but for life in general. Only really good looking people can get away with not being social and even then it’s still a failio.
Nah man I got a gf and some slays from tinder but irl I can’t even start a conversation with a women jfl
 
Honestly for most people Botox or a hair transplant is a bigger looksmax than jaw surgery
No one here is getting that invasive surgery let’s be real

Too late to change back now boyo.

Getting Sunil to break my mandible and maxilla, and yank it forward.
 
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Nah man I got a gf and some slays from tinder but irl I can’t even start a conversation with a women jfl
How about getting a job etc? Or even seeing a dr. Social skills are important for life
 
how much u pay

10k CAD for mandatory braces + 10k CAD for the maxillofacial surgeon. The Canadian government covers all hospital fees, so I don't need to pay that.

I took a piss out on you, but you are not a bimax candidate. What more is there to advance?

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Unless you are jutting here, you will be dogmaxxed.
 
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10k CAD for mandatory braces + 10k CAD for the maxillofacial surgeon. The Canadian government covers all hospital fees, so I don't need to pay that.

I took a piss out on you, but you are not a bimax candidate. What more is there to advance?

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Unless you are jutting here, you will be dogmaxxed.
good price tbh for a known surgeon

my midface is sunken in on the left side and 404 zygos
 
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good price tbh for a known surgeon

my midface is sunken in on the left side and 404 zygos

Understand what bimax is, and what is can and cannot do.

Bimax means a lefort 1 + bsso.

If you only want a lefort , then you need to have an underbite currently. Your bottom teeth must be further away from your top.

You don't have a noticeable underbite, so they either have to

1) Move both your lower and upper jaw, hence the bimax

2) Artificially create an underbite via braces, so you have a gap to move your upper jaw.

Bimax will not fix your problem of midface recession and zygos 404, it will make it worse.

This is more or less what your will look like

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Your nose is already upturned and it will upturn it even more. Your jaws already protrude past your glagella and further jaw protrusion will dogmaxx you.

If zygos are your issue, advancing the midface will make them even more recessed.

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You will get this type of face shape if you proceed with what you are about to do.

Your solution is malar implants. That's what they are designed for. Don't get a surgery that won't solve your problem and will butcher your face.
 
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Understand what bimax is, and what is can and cannot do.

Bimax means a lefort 1 + bsso.

If you only want a lefort , then you need to have an underbite currently. Your bottom teeth must be further away from your top.

You don't have a noticeable underbite, so they either have to

1) Move both your lower and upper jaw, hence the bimax

2) Artificially create an underbite via braces, so you have a gap to move your upper jaw.

Bimax will not fix your problem of midface recession and zygos 404, it will make it worse.

This is more or less what your will look like

View attachment 3434891

Your nose is already upturned and it will upturn it even more. Your jaws already protrude past your glagella and further jaw protrusion will dogmaxx you.

If zygos are your issue, advancing the midface will make them even more recessed.

View attachment 3434900

You will get this type of face shape if you proceed with what you are about to do.

Your solution is malar implants. That's what they are designed for. Don't get a surgery that won't solve your problem and will butcher your face.
my problem is that on one side my face is decrntly forward grown and on the other its recessed slightly. even chatgpt calls me recessed on that side tbh

my philtrum is also flat from that side and tbh only bimax/bsso could fix that i guess
 
Understand what bimax is, and what is can and cannot do.

Bimax means a lefort 1 + bsso.

If you only want a lefort , then you need to have an underbite currently. Your bottom teeth must be further away from your top.

You don't have a noticeable underbite, so they either have to

1) Move both your lower and upper jaw, hence the bimax

2) Artificially create an underbite via braces, so you have a gap to move your upper jaw.

Bimax will not fix your problem of midface recession and zygos 404, it will make it worse.

This is more or less what your will look like

View attachment 3434891

Your nose is already upturned and it will upturn it even more. Your jaws already protrude past your glagella and further jaw protrusion will dogmaxx you.

If zygos are your issue, advancing the midface will make them even more recessed.

View attachment 3434900

You will get this type of face shape if you proceed with what you are about to do.

Your solution is malar implants. That's what they are designed for. Don't get a surgery that won't solve your problem and will butcher your face.
I think he would need fat grafts after the implant if it reveals, also i have seen many results where fat grafts emulate the looks of implants and better, but ofc with aging it will be bad, so i think a mix of both would be ok for him.
 
I think he would need fat grafts after the implant if it reveals, also i have seen many results where fat grafts emulate the looks of implants and better, but ofc with aging it will be bad, so i think a mix of both would be ok for him.
fat grafts where? undereyes or zygos
 
Bimax doesnt have a brutal recovery if its custom plates with 3d planning
 
Bimax doesnt have a brutal recovery if its custom plates with 3d planning
its both ur jaws getting from ur bone and put back together with plates how can that not be brutal? u still cant eat proper food for many weeks
 
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its both ur jaws getting from ur bone and put back together with plates how can that not be brutal? u still cant eat proper food for many weeks
blah blah its not that brutal
 
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wtf is even bimax . this shit doesnt do anything to a person that doesnt have sever underdevelopement
 
just get jaw surgery if you need it theory

Also, do NOT get it if you do NOT need it

ONLY GET THINGS THAT YOU NEED, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS

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grow a fucking beard ngl

lets be honest 99% of you wont get bimax cuz its a brutal recovery, often doesnt get u the desired results and is too expensive, also u mostly also need genio + implants to not look dogmaxxed

all normies without super good forward growth grow beards (even they know about minoxidil and dermaroller btw) and fraud their jaw

its no lie that a beard is the mans makeup

View attachment 3434598

he would literally be subhuman without his warrior beard
Stubble is great literally so many girls like legit start to flirt with me when I trim to stubble
But u need a good jaw obvious
 
@buflek Thoughts?
 
I don't like the look of beards
 

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