interesting observation of mine after moving to netherlands from east europe (what girls find attractive in men)

[valentine]

ive come to conclusion that girls in western europe hate feminine men and find them annoying.
this is very interesting to me because when i lived in ukraine i would constantly hear girls talk about how men are disgusting and how much they value guys taking care of themselves. basically the more you look like a girl the better and androgyny is highly valued. i remember being praised for basic things like shaping my eyebrows or having well kept nails, they find body hair on men disgusting too.
its a completely different story here. i noticed my feminine behavior is looked down upon by women and they hate androgynous presenting men. you need to be 6'5 and ogre otherwise youre not even considered human.
is that because girls here spend a lot less time on their appearance so they feel like their femininity is being threatened because im prettier and skinnier than them?
i also noticed asian girls treat me really well here for some reason, theyre always very friendly even if we met 5 minutes ago

 

[valentine]

if ur short and low t u need to get anime hair and move to east europe or west asia

 

[SexWhale]

Never noticed this, but I have never lived in Eastern Europe. Although many Eastern European girls I do know don’t seem to have types that much different from Western European girls.

 

[valentine]

Never noticed this, but I have never lived in Eastern Europe. Although many Eastern European girls I do know don’t seem to have types that much different from Western European girls.

i was in high school at the time, older women most likely dont find feminine guys attractive there either

 

[RXnd]

if ur short and low t u need to get anime hair and move to east europe or west asia

Lil Uzi sasuke hair

 

[valentine]

Lil Uzi sasuke hair

pushing 60 btw

 

[deadstock]

@MoggerGaston

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

They like attractive mature men

 

[Pento]

ive come to conclusion that girls in western europe hate feminine men and find them annoying.
this is very interesting to me because when i lived in ukraine i would constantly hear girls talk about how men are disgusting and how much they value guys taking care of themselves. basically the more you look like a girl the better and androgyny is highly valued. i remember being praised for basic things like shaping my eyebrows or having well kept nails, they find body hair on men disgusting too.
its a completely different story here. i noticed my feminine behavior is looked down upon by women and they hate androgynous presenting men. you need to be 6'5 and ogre otherwise youre not even considered human.
is that because girls here spend a lot less time on their appearance so they feel like their femininity is being threatened because im prettier and skinnier than them?
i also noticed asian girls treat me really well here for some reason, theyre always very friendly even if we met 5 minutes ago

It's the same shit in America, for some reason the beauty standard is either htn pretty boy with very well defined bones that's very tall, status maxed ethnics or the stereotypical jock.

Anything remotely androgynous will have you looked down upon.

 

[valentine]

Anything remotely androgynous will have you looked down upon

over

 

[khalIid]

anime hair in East Europe is death tier bullying

 

[Gengar]

Next time you see a shitskin manlet, that’s probably just me.

 

[valentine]

Next time you see a shitskin manlet, that’s probably just me.

wowww

 

[valentine]

anime hair in East Europe is death tier bullying

from men yes

 

[khalIid]

from men yes

How western euros treat you?

 

[Gengar]

By the way, no — you don’t have to be a 6’5” ogre. You just need to be NT here. It’s true that women here don’t like effeminate men. It’s pretty much seen as non-NT to be effeminate. You have to look good in order to slay, but you can’t be effeminate. You need to look like a proper guy, act like one, be confident, etc. That’s probably where the “just be confident” meme comes from. It’s rooted in some truth. An average ethnic would get no foids if he’s non-NT/effeminate/not confident. Now if he’s the opposite, he can still pull some. Obviously they won’t be good-looking usually but the foids will look decent at least. Being NT is key. And that includes being confident and not being effeminate.

 

[valentine]

How western euros treat you?

these women hate me

 

[khalIid]

these women hate me

Men?
Just aim for ethnic girlz

 

[valentine]

By the way, no — you don’t have to be a 6’5” ogre. You just need to be NT here. It’s true that women here don’t like effeminate men. It’s pretty much seen as non-NT to be effeminate. You have to look good in order to slay, but you can’t be effeminate. You need to look like a proper guy, act like one, be confident, etc. That’s probably where the “just be confident” meme comes from. It’s rooted in some truth. An average ethnic would get no foids if he’s non-NT/effeminate/not confident. Now if he’s the opposite, he can still pull some. Obviously they won’t be good-looking usually but the foids will look decent at least. Being NT is key. And that includes being confident and not being effeminate.

good thing i dont care about what the retarded foids think and can keep being myself

 

[Gengar]

good thing i dont care about what the retarded foids think and can keep being myself

Very based, you sound like me.

 

[Androx]

ive come to conclusion that girls in western europe hate feminine men and find them annoying.
this is very interesting to me because when i lived in ukraine i would constantly hear girls talk about how men are disgusting and how much they value guys taking care of themselves. basically the more you look like a girl the better and androgyny is highly valued. i remember being praised for basic things like shaping my eyebrows or having well kept nails, they find body hair on men disgusting too.
its a completely different story here. i noticed my feminine behavior is looked down upon by women and they hate androgynous presenting men. you need to be 6'5 and ogre otherwise youre not even considered human.
is that because girls here spend a lot less time on their appearance so they feel like their femininity is being threatened because im prettier and skinnier than them?
i also noticed asian girls treat me really well here for some reason, theyre always very friendly even if we met 5 minutes ago

So being a prettyboy is a must for ukraine/russian/belarussian girls?

 

[valentine]

So being a prettyboy is a must for ukraine/russian/belarussian girls?

not really, but from my experience with girls in highschool yes. in western europe the beauty standart for men is definitely rooted in being more masculine

 

[Androx]

not really, but from my experience with girls in highschool yes. in western europe the beauty standart for men is definitely rooted in being more masculine

Im in the same situation as you kinda. Im a москаль and I moved to western europe like when I was 6. I mostly look up upon to ukranian or russian girls. Yet most of them moved here cause of war and dont have full western mindset.

So would it be better to appealmaxx and become prettyboy

or just try to keep it ogre or between robust pretty boy

 

[unowkn]

i am severly balding with my man tits hanging out as i overdose on prolactin

 

[valentine]

i am severly balding with my man tits hanging out as i overdose on prolactin

uglyboy final boss

 

[unowkn]

uglyboy final boss

do u think those european chiks u were tqalking abotu woruld like a guy liike me

 

[valentine]

do u think those european chiks u were tqalking abotu woruld like a guy liike me

yes