Investing in the market mogs housing (and everything else)

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Maybe it was good for your boomer parents but once the normie is in the market the returns become lower. Index funds (50% USA and 50% world ex US etf) is the way to go.

I get that this is normie advice too. But most people prioritize a house as their main asset appreciator in their lives not the actual market - which is basically codeword for the continued growth and technological progress in the world. if you believe the world will continue experiencing material growth - as it has consistently has since the industrial revolution then you should be invested in the market with every last saving as possible.

If you are thinking of putting a deposit down for a house forget it. 9 times out of 10 you are better off renting and then putting your savings in the market for multiple decades. In 20 / 30 years that will outgrow mortgage payments you would have otherwise made. You will probably live in the same quality housing even renting. Meanwhile you're savings will out appreciate anything you put towards your house. The maths behind it is unquestionable! People just don't do long term and obsessed with home ownership.

There is literally no argument the other way. Literally none. Some of you may want to say buy bitty shitty coin or a specific stock/ sector etf or even gold that will mog the markets. Lmao idc. You are just trying to be high IQ when in reality you are making a speculative investment. At the end of the day, this is a guaranteed approach to your future. Even if you don't think you are invested in the markets you probably are. After all most people's pensions are invested in the market themselves. They (Jews) will never let the market collapse.

I'm aware of muh 1929, muh oil shock, much 90s tech bubble. All of that is totally irrelevant and even if you invested at the peak of these cycles from a long-term perspective you would have still been far better off than buying a shitty house with Jewish interest and locking yourself into a lifelong debt for most of your productive life. It's genuinely the most low IQ thing you can do, even 50 years ago but especially today. You are going to place most of your value inside a SINGLE asset prone to local conditions, interest rates and returns aren't that great compared to markets unless you bought a house in Dubai in the 70s - which would have been a speculative play as any other high risk asset.

The only thing that can convince me that this isn't the rational thing to do is if Yellowstone volcano blows up or an asteroid the size of Kazakhstan hit earth. There is literally nothing that will beat the market unless we see mass extinction.

@KeepCopingLads @Seth Walsh @PsychoDsk
 
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true or just arbitrage the mortgage payments with interest only mortgage + invest difference, never build equity
 
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true or just arbitrage the mortgage payments with interest only mortgage + invest difference, never build equity
I have a mortgage and I'm very tempted to do that next year when my current fixed interest rate 1.25% expire next year. Will switch to interest only and not pay down principal. People just think debt is a burden they have to get rid of asap.
 
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Maybe it was good for your boomer parents but once the normie is in the market the returns become lower. Index funds (50% USA and 50% world ex US etf) is the way to go.

I get that this is normie advice too. But most people prioritize a house as their main asset appreciator in their lives not the actual market - which is basically codeword for the continued growth and technological progress in the world. if you believe the world will continue experiencing material growth - as it has consistently has since the industrial revolution then you should be invested in the market with every last saving as possible.

If you are thinking of putting a deposit down for a house forget it. 9 times out of 10 you are better off renting and then putting your savings in the market for multiple decades. In 20 / 30 years that will outgrow mortgage payments you would have otherwise made. You will probably live in the same quality housing even renting. Meanwhile you're savings will out appreciate anything you put towards your house. The maths behind it is unquestionable! People just don't do long term and obsessed with home ownership.

There is literally no argument the other way. Literally none. Some of you may want to say buy bitty shitty coin or a specific stock/ sector etf or even gold that will mog the markets. Lmao idc. You are just trying to be high IQ when in reality you are making a speculative investment. At the end of the day, this is a guaranteed approach to your future. Even if you don't think you are invested in the markets you probably are. After all most people's pensions are invested in the market themselves. They (Jews) will never let the market collapse.

I'm aware of muh 1929, muh oil shock, much 90s tech bubble. All of that is totally irrelevant and even if you invested at the peak of these cycles from a long-term perspective you would have still been far better off than buying a shitty house with Jewish interest and locking yourself into a lifelong debt for most of your productive life. It's genuinely the most low IQ thing you can do, even 50 years ago but especially today. You are going to place most of your value inside a SINGLE asset prone to local conditions, interest rates and returns aren't that great compared to markets unless you bought a house in Dubai in the 70s - which would have been a speculative play as any other high risk asset.

The only thing that can convince me that this isn't the rational thing to do is if Yellowstone volcano blows up or an asteroid the size of Kazakhstan hit earth. There is literally nothing that will beat the market unless we see mass extinction.

@KeepCopingLads @Seth Walsh @PsychoDsk
Buying a house only seems reasonable when u aren't single, even at that it's still a no.
 
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>just rent all your life goy
i dunno about this one pal, paying off someone elses mortgage sounds like the most cucked thing ever
 
>just rent all your life goy
i dunno about this one pal, paying off someone elses mortgage sounds like the most cucked thing ever
That's why I used to think. But just replace someone else's mortgage for a bank (a.k.a Jews). Same concept.

I ran calculations myself. I genuinely would have been better off just renting and investing in markets. At the end of the day you would have a higher net worth in 9/10 cases. That's exactly what people who have given up buying a house are doing - especially in London. It's a backdoor way of building wealth without a property.
 
If you are thinking of putting a deposit down for a house forget it. 9 times out of 10 you are better off renting and then putting your savings in the market for multiple decades. In 20 / 30 years that will outgrow mortgage payments you would have otherwise made.
Trvke, you have to pay mortgage payment + down payment + property tax

Over if ur not breaded out of ur brain
 
I genuinely would have been better off just renting and investing in markets
Tbf hindsight bias looking at old returns

Technically renting is better, but for stability or whatever mortgage is appropriate, especially if you are wealthy enough to comfortably own one, mkt is risky

Leverage long houses kinda mad aswell
 
Tbf hindsight bias looking at old returns

Technically renting is better, but for stability or whatever mortgage is appropriate, especially if you are wealthy enough to comfortably own one, mkt is risky

Leverage long houses kinda mad aswell
Ofc. And I get markets (especially US equities) have been extremely parabolic in rhe last 5 years as well. But a diversified index fund is almost always going to outperform housing short and long term. Without headaches. Minimal risk. The only question is that of discipline, budgeting, psychological tolerance and your own cost of living. In terms of numbers and the maths it check out, even if you are charitable to housing.

I'm ngl even knowing this I'm too hesitant to do it as a homeowners myself. Because the idea of a debt I have to pay back hanging over my head isn't something I like. It's like the Jews know this! And they are making me go for the sub optimal option consciously.
 
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Hodl index funds 4 lyfe
 
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Ofc. And I get markets (especially US equities) have been extremely parabolic in rhe last 5 years as well. But a diversified index fund is almost always going to outperform housing short and long term. Without headaches. Minimal risk. The only question is that of discipline, budgeting, psychological tolerance and your own cost of living. In terms of numbers and the maths it check out, even if you are charitable to housing.

I'm ngl even knowing this I'm too hesitant to do it as a homeowners myself. Because the idea of a debt I have to pay back hanging over my head isn't something I like. It's like the Jews know this! And they are making me go for the sub optimal option.
I guess it depends on your lifestyle

If you have a wife and children, you don't wanna be renting some apartment and have your entire net worth oscillate significantly through market crashes. You want stability

Personally idrc tho, I have insane risk tolerance & don't plan to buy a house unless life circumstances change meaningfully.
 
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just didnt even read a single molecule.. people dont invest in houses unless the property beats the stock market :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::feelsthink::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman:
 
just didnt even read a single molecule.. people dont invest in houses unless the property beats the stock market :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::feelsthink::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman:
It's a normie "investment" vehicle. It literally doesn't beat the market unless you're lucky. As lucky as stockpicking or picking your favourite shitcoin.

My argument its not even worth buying a house to secure a "roof over your head". It's just far better renting. I used to think it was worse and I even ignored financial advice telling me to rent because it felt instinctively wrong to prioritise the market over a house. But it's more of a societal 'achievement' to buy a house, rather than a rational decision.
 

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