
Debetro
mentally crippled by lonely teen years
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And?you said ure 38
This is my friend, he's 41 years old and slays weekly.
I don't see the problem
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And?you said ure 38
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This is my friend, he's 41 years old and slays weekly.
I don't see the problem
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This is my friend, he's 41 years old and slays weekly.
I don't see the problem
I live very minimally. Student-dorm doesn't cost shit, then you have food. Those are the 2 major expenses.Hence why working your ass off to graduate from a top uni is hilarious cope unless you like studying.
How do you afford this shit btw?
These people are insane tbh. Nothing wrong with dating/fucking a 19yo, no matter what age you are.>19
>pedo
Impossible to do that were I live, people just go to class and go home, you have classes with different people, you can't meet anyone anywhere.
It's similar here. I don't vibe or socialize with anyone from my classes. Nor do I know anyone from my lectures/classes/projects.This. When I was at uni people just went back to their dorms. Social circles are closed off after freshers week. @MoggerGaston How do u do this? I imagine the original social circle you were in when u first entered uni have all graduated so are you just entering new social circles every year at freshers week?
Exactly. You can't complain, moan or be depressed. You can't be anti-social or be low-energy. It's a failo.I also hang out with teenagers and jbs from time to time.
If you have collagen, are gymmaxed and fit, and you are able to crack jokes and have fun with younger people, you can easily get invited to events and parties.
Just don't be a boring older dork, be a cool older dude.
my financial situation is kinda fucked, I have way too much student debt, etc.my guy what about student loans?? gonna be paying that shit off for the rest of ur life
This kind of student life is only for those who aren’t doing STEM. My brother studied business and he went to a lot of parties. Unfortunately I’m going into STEM, so no pool parties by 19 year old women but rather sausage tests by 20 year old nerds.And this is why I will stay a student forever, or as long as I possibly can. These kind of opportunities don't exist after college/university.
I have 0 interest in getting a job, a career and I will stay a student untill my mid 30s at the very least.
I vibe well with young guys and they don't seem to care at all that I am 27yo, I don't even larp my age anymore.
I think age-discrimination doesn't really exist anyways, it only exists in theory and on apps where you can set age boundaries.
People just judge you by the way you look. If you look ugly, then suddenly age will become an issue. You become a creepy guy that only interacts with younger people, immature, etc.
If people like the way you look, then your age isn't seen in this negative light and you just become that
'chill, older, free-spirited guy that doesn't take life seriously'.
My 22yo housemate, which I vibe well with, has a 19yo gf that's holding a pool party at her parent's place, which I've now been invited to.
So I will be there getting drunk with her and her 19yo female friends n shit.
JFL if u think I will ever get opportunities like this once I am no longer a student.
Student-life forever.
Once my looks start failing me, resulting in my age suddenly becoming a 'creep failo', i will rope.
Wageslavery among oldcels is not for me.
He is probably larping or sth.
He said he was 27 already 2 years ago.
Then he said he did a hair transplant at 28.
Also, he looks above 30 for sure, IF you believe the pics he posted.
Yeah I realize at some point the student-party life comes to an end.yeah university is pretty cool. that was pretty much me for the year. i am 25 and have been hooking up with younger girls and dating because of sheer difference in exposure. get it out of your system. Everyone does in their 20's.
You and i probably the same benefit of looking younger despite being older. have fun but realize it will end at some point. i see dudes at the club who are way too old and don't know when it's over for them. don't be that dude.
looks incredibly old and uninteresting for people at student-age. Has absolutely 0 chance in university/college or that crowd and its parties.And?
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This is my friend, he's 41 years old and slays weekly.
I don't see the problem
He looks 55. Wow.And?
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This is my friend, he's 41 years old and slays weekly.
I don't see the problem
I have 0 interaction with the people from my STEM classes, STEM lectures, STEM projects, etc.This kind of student life is only for those who aren’t doing STEM. My brother studied business and he went to a lot of parties. Unfortunately I’m going into STEM, so no pool parties by 19 year old women but rather sausage tests by 20 year old nerds.
Yeah he looks old asf. Student-maxxing wouldn't work for him.He looks 55. Wow.
I will use cocaine/mephedrone and mog hard.View attachment 2270826
This is OP at the party
yea also after 30yrs if you still aint paid that shit you aint gotta worry about it, so its not a big deal tbh am thinking of just lurking near or around universities rather then taking calsses u reckon this is a good idea? might even go back tbh because not having a degree is a massive failomy financial situation is kinda fucked, I have way too much student debt, etc.
But I am not too worried about it, it's the least of my problems. I need to fix my mental illnesses, feel valued, fix my personality-disorder, BDD, get more social/relationship experience, etc.
Money doesn't concern me at this point, and doesn't affect my life too much, beyond the fact that I can't signal status/wealth due to my lack of wealth. But young women largely don't care about that.
how? you did a hard course?Fuck
aNd i fully blew my uni experience
Can you imagine that??
It was so ass
Its ober
I guess it also depends on the location of your college. Unfortunately, the college I will go to will only cater to STEM. So I won't be able to meet people studying other majors because I won't ever see them at all. But having only guys in your class is for the best. Less chance of them trying to be cool to impress the few women in class by acting like dickbags in order to "score" some goodie points from women.I have 0 interaction with the people from my STEM classes, STEM lectures, STEM projects, etc.
95% of them are male, and 90% of the men are nerdy incels. Often commuting to some other city, never going to parties locally, etc.
Tbh I could put an effort into vibing with the ~5% that seem cool. Never really bothered and just disregarded all of it. But it's future potential.
I generally feel way more at home, less stressed, interacting with the nerdy incels. Since that's what I've always been and still am. I am generally very extroverted in that crowd. But then I get frustrated since I don't want to hang in that crowd/lifestyle anymore, talking about videogames etc.
But then I don't feel comfortable hanging with the 'cool kids' either, since I never did. Fucked brain.
But overall I largely interact with people doing other degrees, business like you say, psychology, sustainability xxx studies, etc. (Bio)medical sciences. It has less nerds and more down to earth, cooler people. Way more women too. Gotta meet them in the gym, through house-mates/friends, or at local parties though. Since I don't have any shared classes/lectures with them.
STEM was probably the worst mistake I made in my life thusfar. Not worth it considering the situation I came from.
My young adulthood should've been about developing the social/romantic mindset that I completely lacked in high-school. Developing a sense of self, self-esteem, which I also completely lacked from my abusive parental childhood.
Find out what I like, what I don't like. Lifestyle, clothing, learning how I like to spend my time, etc.
I really didn't need to further train my analytical/STEM mindset. It wasn't beneficiary for my life whatsoever.
But there's still time for this throughout your 20s tbh. As I am now discovering. Just gotta get over the 'shame' of being 'behind' on your peers in terms of career/studies/experiences I guess.
As I've learned so far with the few girls I dated, larping some other life, not being ur true self, trying to be what you think she wants you to be, etc. It hinders you development a lot aswell.
You need to find a balance between faking a personality to get experiences you want, and being yourself to truly develop yourself as a human being. Getting more comfortable in your own skin, finding out who you are.
I haven't found that balance yet. I've been larping too much, playing myself. Short-term benefits from getting good experiences, like the HTB I fucked a month ago. But then the long-term benefits aren't there because frauding costs too much energy and gives too little reward.
So the experiences are a waste tbh, you don't develop as a person from it by doing the stuff I did.
Yeah that's legit, especially if you want to be focused on your studies. There's many ways to meet women anyways.I guess it also depends on the location of your college. Unfortunately, the college I will go to will only cater to STEM. So I won't be able to meet people studying other majors because I won't ever see them at all. But having only guys in your class is for the best. Less chance of them trying to be cool to impress the few women in class by acting like dickbags in order to "score" some goodie points from women.
Oh definitely. I 100% agree that faking it till you make it is advised if you struggle to lose your KHHV status, struggle to get any sexual interaction with women.I understand "fake it till you make it" can be very draining and as you say the pay-off isn't worth it at all but I guess it also depends on the context. For a KHHV as myself it could be very well worth it to have sex but that's not something I would do, I am speaking from the perspective of any other KHHV who longs to have sex.
Legit man. My life is one immense struggle of depression and negative emotions. I've been coping hard by abusing drugs a lot lately, but I know it's not a sustainable way of life, and it's getting worse and worse. Using more to get the same high. I hate my life.Good luck with everything though, sounds like you need it!
Also thanks for sharing the lessons you have learned.
What's the point of all those degrees. In the end you'll wage slave for some company anyways or worse yet not get any jobs thrown at you and be a minimum wage cel with crushing debt all cause you gambled your degree would make you rich.Based.
Fail? OP has 2 masters degrees. You don‘t have to fail your courses to enjoy the student life. Just take on a new one once you finished one.
Wtf.It's similar here. I don't vibe or socialize with anyone from my classes. Nor do I know anyone from my lectures/classes/projects.
I go to public student parties and events, thats where I meet most people. There's always some student event from some kind of organization, easy-access for students, cheap beer, etc.
Then I have the fact I live in a student-dorm so I always have young people people I am close to since I live with them.
I am planning on joining the student hockey club here in September, meet new people through that.
CopeAnd this is why I will stay a student forever, or as long as I possibly can. These kind of opportunities don't exist after college/university.
I have 0 interest in getting a job, a career and I will stay a student untill my mid 30s at the very least.
I vibe well with young guys and they don't seem to care at all that I am 27yo, I don't even larp my age anymore.
I think age-discrimination doesn't really exist anyways, it only exists in theory and on apps where you can set age boundaries.
People just judge you by the way you look. If you look ugly, then suddenly age will become an issue. You become a creepy guy that only interacts with younger people, immature, etc.
If people like the way you look, then your age isn't seen in this negative light and you just become that
'chill, older, free-spirited guy that doesn't take life seriously'.
My 22yo housemate, which I vibe well with, has a 19yo gf that's holding a pool party at her parent's place, which I've now been invited to.
So I will be there getting drunk with her and her 19yo female friends n shit.
JFL if u think I will ever get opportunities like this once I am no longer a student.
Student-life forever.
Once my looks start failing me, resulting in my age suddenly becoming a 'creep failo', i will rope.
Wageslavery among oldcels is not for me.
Career/Money I don't find very important/interesting at this point anyways, beyond having the basic finances to live an 'okay' minimalist lifestyle.What's the point of all those degrees. In the end you'll wage slave for some company anyways or worse yet not get any jobs thrown at you and be a minimum wage cel with crushing debt all cause you gambled your degree would make you rich.
You can enjoy college life without being in uni. Just live near a campus . Go to bars near colleges. Go on campus and look at flyers for parties and clubs. . Join a Facebook group for upcoming parties and clubs. Majority of clubs won't check if your actually a student.
Their might be some that do but those are like fraternities or some top tier social organizations. You definetly don't need to do that to get college pussy, just attending college parties or bars near colleges will get you in touch with college students. Or you can hang around coffee areas and parks near college, meat colleges students their.
The idea that you have to be literally enrolled to enjoy college life is a cope and a giga waste of money and risk crushing debt all for a chance at success, vs you can just be on the side and worst case you get nothing no debt and no wasting your time in a hell hole
still doing the same bachelors ive been doing for the past 9 years. The last 6 years I've just been chilling, basically being NEET, not going to any lectures or passing any courses.Wtf. Are you studying a degree (another bachelors, masters or phd?)
Do you get socially ostracized or bullied by other people living on campus due to your age? Have you had any mean comments?still doing the same bachelors ive been doing for the past 9 years. The last 6 years I've just been chilling, basically being NEET, not going to any lectures or passing any courses.
Not a great situation, but the result of my mental state and me realizing that excelling in academia didn't make me happy whatsoever, or brought me closer to any happiness.
Dicaprio himself iq mogs these age cucks back to the grave. At least he gets it.These people are insane tbh. Nothing wrong with dating/fucking a 19yo, no matter what age you are.
In the end it's all about her liking the way you look and being in the mood.
Definitely. I just want to focus on my studies and get that diploma. That's all that matters to me. I couldn't care less about women. They all disappoint me one way or the other anyway.Yeah that's legit, especially if you want to be focused on your studies. There's many ways to meet women anyways.
Personally I'm not really interested in losing my KHHV status but that is for religious reasons. I think I already said this before a couple of times but I could lose my virginity if I wanted to; not just by means of an escort but also with civilian women, because I got a friend who could hook me up with his FWB, but that's not the path I want to walk on.Oh definitely. I 100% agree that faking it till you make it is advised if you struggle to lose your KHHV status, struggle to get any sexual interaction with women.
Having gone through the motions of kissing, sex, etc, makes everything less awkward, easier in the future. When you don't have to fake who you are anymore.
I'm in the exact same boat: my life's been like that as well. I only tried to cope with drugs once but ultimately I decided to call it off. I'd rather do it sober like I always have. But yeah, sounds like you built a tolerance for drugs and that's objectively bad.Legit man. My life is one immense struggle of depression and negative emotions. I've been coping hard by abusing drugs a lot lately, but I know it's not a sustainable way of life, and it's getting worse and worse. Using more to get the same high. I hate my life.
But this is one of the few positive things in my life, I want to emphasize it. And in the future I hope that my life, and that of everyone else here, has more positive moments, instead of the negativity we've all been stuck in.
Positivity, hope; it gives energy. And energy leads to life-quality.
The blackpill is right, but at the same time being blackpilled, being surrounded by these ideas, negativity. It drains your energy, makes you negative yourself, more depressed. Lowers your life quality.
I think it's time for me to move on from here anyways, as I realize that surrounding yourself with positivity, even if it's delusional, ignorant of the truth, etc. leads to more energy. And energy is what I need right now, to get my life to where I want it to be.
people are definitely weirded out sometimes, but not always. It's a 50/50 tbh.Do you get socially ostracized or bullied by other people living on campus due to your age?
Never in my face. Probably many times behind my back though.Have you had any mean comments?
I hang out mostly with the 6 other students that I live with. Next to that I have a few young colleagues from my part-time weekend job that I hangout with occasionally. Then I often go to parties/raves solo or with the people mentioned before, and meet new people there, although I've never had a lasting connection from there. But in the moment I seem to vibe just fine with them.Do you hang out with your on campus people you live with or are your social interaction mainly with people you meet at clubs or university sponsored get to togethers/parties?
I never understood the age-cucking tbh. I have friends/housemates age 21-22 that feel 'uncomfortable' dating an 18yo girl. It's just insane to me how you would make an issue out of that.Dicaprio himself iq mogs these age cucks back to the grave. At least he gets it.
The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not.
Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term “oversocialized” to describe such people.
Definitely. Most girls at 19yo have fucked several guys already, the 19yo girl I lost my KHHV to, 4 years ago, already had n-count 7. Started at 14yo.Also 19 isn’t even young they are all fully grown sucking dick and doing drugs etc. no innocence left.
The truth is the only incentive most girls have nowadays to fuck many guys their age is that it’s pretty much the only socially acceptable way of things. If ugly cucks weren’t obsessed with securing loose pussy, girls would just be fucking older guys. These same young guys then get jealous when they grow older and they’re suffering the consequences of their own dumb ideology, so now they can’t fuck young girls. Because they are ugly and there is no social acceptability incentive for girls to fuck them, they are left with nothing.I never understood the age-cucking tbh. I have friends/housemates age 21-22 that feel 'uncomfortable' dating an 18yo girl. It's just insane to me how you would make an issue out of that.
That's good. Try to focus on other positive things in your life. Trips you want to do, hobbies, sports, things you like to do, but also very important: People you like to socialize with. Socialization is key to mental health ngl, doesn't have to be with women.Definitely. I just want to focus on my studies and get that diploma. That's all that matters to me. I couldn't care less about women. They all disappoint me one way or the other anyway.
That's completely fine. You aren't missing out on a lot anyways unless you strike out with a good woman. Have an emotional connection, meet-up frequently, etc.Personally I'm not really interested in losing my KHHV status but that is for religious reasons. I think I already said this before a couple of times but I could lose my virginity if I wanted to; not just by means of an escort but also with civilian women, because I got a friend who could hook me up with his FWB, but that's not the path I want to walk on.
Definitely. I don't recommend using drugs, especially not when you are depressed or feeling down. It can definitely spiral out of control in such way to make your life even worse than it was before in the long run.I'm in the exact same boat: my life's been like that as well. I only tried to cope with drugs once but ultimately I decided to call it off. I'd rather do it sober like I always have. But yeah, sounds like you built a tolerance for drugs and that's objectively bad.
I used to be very much into Stoicness a couple years ago. Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and much more.I can relate to wanting to be more positive. I'm constantly negative when it concerns myself. But I've started to become stoic which I think is also helpful. I believe being stoic falls in line with the whitepill. I'm not a proponent of the blackpill as I think it's a self-defeatist attitude filled with negativity. I already got enough negativity of my own, don't need any more of that. Stoicness is the way to go, if you ask me.
If I delete, I will shoot you a message so we can stay in touch.Definitely gonna miss you though if you leave. If you don't mind, I would give you my Whatsapp number in private to stay in touch or something.
my financial situation is kinda fucked, I have way too much student debt, etc.
But I am not too worried about it, it's the least of my problems. I need to fix my mental illnesses, feel valued, fix my personality-disorder, BDD, get more social/relationship experience, etc.
Money doesn't concern me at this point, and doesn't affect my life too much, beyond the fact that I can't signal status/wealth due to my lack of wealth. But young women largely don't care about that.
Yeah, I'm actually getting in touch with some friends from high school again (I had already seen them in later years, but eventually they all got busy with life and all that). This week or the week after, I'll be going to Amsterdam to meet up with another high school friend again. He's the one who introduced me to LSD (he's also since then quit, apparently). I like to socialize with men mostly (no homo).That's good. Try to focus on other positive things in your life. Trips you want to do, hobbies, sports, things you like to do, but also very important: People you like to socialize with. Socialization is key to mental health ngl, doesn't have to be with women.
Perhaps you should film these sexual encounters so you can relive that moment and feel good again everytime you watch it. XD (What being a coomer does to a mfer).That's completely fine. You aren't missing out on a lot anyways unless you strike out with a good woman. Have an emotional connection, meet-up frequently, etc.
I have sex like once every 6 months, usually some random slay from OLD that I never see again. And while it feels good and intimate for a few hours, in such low frequency it's meaningless to my overall life tbh. Has no real impact, not worth the effort I put into it.
I guess I am lucky in the sense that I have never developed an addiction. Not even a nicotine addiction despite smoking heavily from 13 until 18. Good times, though. Cigarettes cost 4,40 per big pack. Now it's easily up to 7,20+ euros for a smaller pack. Ridiculous. I am of the belief that it is best to handle things sober; unironically it does make you mentally stronger, I feel.Definitely. I don't recommend using drugs, especially not when you are depressed or feeling down. It can definitely spiral out of control in such way to make your life even worse than it was before in the long run.
I know personally that I am not really addiction-sensitive. And I also don't think I am sensitive towards psychosis, going crazy from the drugs.
But I know many other people would've had terrible experiences and outcomes from the amount of drugs I've used. Can't recommend.
I get where you are coming from. Completely killing your emotions for the rest of your life isn't good or even healthy, but I do think killing your emotions while you go through a difficult time in your life is absolutely beneficial. So context matters, as you know, nothing is black and white.I used to be very much into Stoicness a couple years ago. Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and much more.
I think it definitely has its place in dealing with negative emotions, life circumstances. It can help you regain ground when you overwhelmed or lost. But I don't think that keeping out emotions entirely is healthy in the end.
Emotions are what makes us human. It's what makes life fun, interesting, loving, passionate, but also painful, anxious, shameful, etc.
As incels, or users of this forum, looksmaxxers, whatever you like to identify yourself as here. We clearly have had way too much pain, anxiety; negative emotions. And not enough love, pleasure, feeling of belonging, etc. Which is just unfortunate from our circumstances in the past and present.
And I think on top of that, we've also poorly capable of dealing with these negative emotions and not getting stuck in them, affecting our life quality a lot. Not having the right people in our environment to talk about this, not having other positive things going on in our life to counter the negative and keep us going.
Atleast that's what I've been focusing on lately. Trying to compartmentalize my life and not letting my social/romantic failures also negatively affect all the other aspects of my life. Like my hobbies, self-esteem, ambitions, dreams, etc.
Yay!If I delete, I will shoot you a message so we can stay in touch.![]()
I will use cocaine/mephedrone and mog hard.
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No point in not using cocaine at events like this.
You look 22 max, how are you so youthful when you abuse so much drugs? I thought that ages people.
drugs make you youngerYou look 22 max, how are you so youthful when you abuse so much drugs? I thought that ages people.
LMAO how based is this guy but it's seem that the theory that life ends after uni is true wageslaving life seem to be so fkn suifuel.still doing the same bachelors ive been doing for the past 9 years. The last 6 years I've just been chilling, basically being NEET, not going to any lectures or passing any courses.
Not a great situation, but the result of my mental state and me realizing that excelling in academia didn't make me happy whatsoever, or brought me closer to any happiness.
It’s hard for most people to accept that the best years of your life are over while you’re still young at ~21. Most people probably thought they would be enjoying life till they are ~30.LMAO how based is this guy but it's seem that the theory that life ends after uni is true wageslaving life seem to be so fkn suifuel.
Not everyone has had their best years by their early twenties.It’s hard for most people to accept that the best years of your life are over while you’re still young at ~21. Most people probably thought they would be enjoying life till they are ~30.
OP you should do Erasmus if your uni offers it
Literally the easiest environment to slay I have ever seen. I legit saw subhumans slaying. My friend did a year in Prague and when I was visiting I witnessed some fat greasy spanish guy slaying a legit Stacylite
The accommodation was huge too, girls would literally just invite you upstairs if you matched them on Tinder
I rage everyday that my uni didn't offer this shit
Are you really 27? You look older tbhAnd this is why I will stay a student forever, or as long as I possibly can. These kind of opportunities don't exist after college/university.
I have 0 interest in getting a job, a career and I will stay a student untill my mid 30s at the very least.
I vibe well with young guys and they don't seem to care at all that I am 27yo, I don't even larp my age anymore.
I think age-discrimination doesn't really exist anyways, it only exists in theory and on apps where you can set age boundaries.
People just judge you by the way you look. If you look ugly, then suddenly age will become an issue. You become a creepy guy that only interacts with younger people, immature, etc.
If people like the way you look, then your age isn't seen in this negative light and you just become that
'chill, older, free-spirited guy that doesn't take life seriously'.
My 22yo housemate, which I vibe well with, has a 19yo gf that's holding a pool party at her parent's place, which I've now been invited to.
So I will be there getting drunk with her and her 19yo female friends n shit.
JFL if u think I will ever get opportunities like this once I am no longer a student.
Student-life forever.
Once my looks start failing me, resulting in my age suddenly becoming a 'creep failo', i will rope.
Wageslavery among oldcels is not for me.
nigga how are you going to deal with all that student debt jflstill doing the same bachelors ive been doing for the past 9 years. The last 6 years I've just been chilling, basically being NEET, not going to any lectures or passing any courses.
Not a great situation, but the result of my mental state and me realizing that excelling in academia didn't make me happy whatsoever, or brought me closer to any happiness.
I live in student housing. If I quit my studies I will be homeless. So I have to keep studying forever.nigga how are you going to deal with all that student debt jfl
wouldnt applying for a leave of absence be smarter so you dont have to keep paying to fail courses
Mirin ngl tbh. How long you gonna keep studentmaxxing? Also is there anything you are doing to collagenmax and retain youthfulness?I live in student housing. If I quit my studies I will be homeless. So I have to keep studying forever.
Normal housing is unaffordable in the netherlands and I am not gonna work more than the 12 hours/week I already do.
Only other option is taking a plane to syria and going back to the netherlands as a refugee. You get free housing+shitton of money.