[IQCELLS ONLY] In 10 years, the average man will be better looking and more alone.

[earnestmach]

Just a shower thought, wanted to write it out and see what others think.

Artificial General Intelligence will popularize the blackpill. It'll be adopted by the majority of people, and that has terrible implications on society.

The prospect of AGI in the next decade is a serious problem considered by many top computer scientists. It is not ridiculous. To see how, and the other problems it might make, ai2027 is an easy read for a near-worse-case forecast. I will take it as a given, I'm not on this forum to argue about whether AGI will come or not. I wanted to talk mostly about the issue of the post-scarcity society inevitably introduced by AGI, meaning: No jobs, but no need to work too, ridiculously high Universal Basic Income (UBI) from an AI-powered economy (like arabs with no taxes from oil but on steroids).

The problems are:

1. Hypergamy will persist
This is pretty obvious. I don't think there is any reason to believe that in a post-scarcity society, women are suddenly willing to date lower status men. Even if they do, it typically fails.

2. AGI will make us a post-scarcity society
Any remote job, and many physical jobs, will likely be replaced by AGI. UBI is really the only fix to the problem, otherwise society will likely suffer greatly and fail. The introduction of UBI, and no jobs will suddenly bring most men to a level playing-field financially, and perhaps more important, most women level to most men-- the issue is two-fold, inter-gender and intra-gender:

• Men, who could before distinguish themselves from other men with better financial security, now have nothing to show. Hypergamous choices, which before may resort to money, attractiveness, status, will no longer include finances-- emphasis will inevitably shift on relative attractiveness. A hypergamous choice still has to be made, it now just has to be almost exclusively about looks.
• Because hypergamy still persists, the standards of women will inevitably rise, but the decreased relative differences financially between the genders will drastically reduce the amount of men who "qualify" for their elevated standards.

3. Exacerbated hypergamy will make the black pill widely adopted
As a result, less men will qualify for women's standards. More men will feel lonely and wronged, and eventually adopt black pill thinking, so much so it becomes almost extremely common, far more than it is even now. Most men are forced to be made aware of lookism as dating becomes difficult

4. AGI will democratize knowledge and ability to improve looks
People already are resorting to AI to make decisions on their looks, most guides on this website is AI slop. That will only improve with time. Access to scientific literature is already being democratized by AI research engines. Eventually, what was knowledge buried deep in forums or barred by a medical degree is one prompt away. Another aspect is also in ability: UBI will be substantial from an automated economy of billions of automated workers, so most people will now have much easier financial access to steroids, RCs, peptides, other injectables and drugs, and surgeries. This, however, isn't a good thing.

5. Absolute gains massive, Relative gains zero.
This point remains reliant on the idea the black pill and looksmaxxing becomes common: if everyone improves, no one improves. Relative differences would not change by much if everyone adopts the black pill. The number of people more attractive than you won't change because everyone is changing. If there was not a reason to choose you before, there's not a reason to choose you still. Of course, this assumes that everyone improves looks at the same rate. If you went to more extreme methods, then you might gain relatively, only at the cost of the risks you take. Looksmaxxing becomes a tax, you can't get ahead, but you don't want to be left behind. It doesn't lead anywhere anymore.

AGI will make looksmaxxing obsolete, and yet almost necessary.

The average man will be better looking and more alone.

 

[JohnDon]

Just a shower thought, wanted to write it out and see what others think.

Artificial General Intelligence will popularize the blackpill. It'll be adopted by the majority of people, and that has terrible implications on society.

The prospect of AGI in the next decade is a serious problem considered by many top computer scientists. It is not ridiculous. To see how, and the other problems it might make, ai2027 is an easy read for a near-worse-case forecast. I will take it as a given, I'm not on this forum to argue about whether AGI will come or not. I wanted to talk mostly about the issue of the post-scarcity society inevitably introduced by AGI, meaning: No jobs, but no need to work too, ridiculously high Universal Basic Income (UBI) from an AI-powered economy (like arabs with no taxes from oil but on steroids).

The problems are:

1. Hypergamy will persist
This is pretty obvious. I don't think there is any reason to believe that in a post-scarcity society, women are suddenly willing to date lower status men. Even if they do, it typically fails.

2. AGI will make us a post-scarcity society
Any remote job, and many physical jobs, will likely be replaced by AGI. UBI is really the only fix to the problem, otherwise society will likely suffer greatly and fail. The introduction of UBI, and no jobs will suddenly bring most men to a level playing-field financially, and perhaps more important, most women level to most men-- the issue is two-fold, inter-gender and intra-gender:

• Men, who could before distinguish themselves from other men with better financial security, now have nothing to show. Hypergamous choices, which before may resort to money, attractiveness, status, will no longer include finances-- emphasis will inevitably shift on relative attractiveness. A hypergamous choice still has to be made, it now just has to be almost exclusively about looks.
• Because hypergamy still persists, the standards of women will inevitably rise, but the decreased relative differences financially between the genders will drastically reduce the amount of men who "qualify" for their elevated standards.

3. Exacerbated hypergamy will make the black pill widely adopted
As a result, less men will qualify for women's standards. More men will feel lonely and wronged, and eventually adopt black pill thinking, so much so it becomes almost extremely common, far more than it is even now. Most men are forced to be made aware of lookism as dating becomes difficult

4. AGI will democratize knowledge and ability to improve looks
People already are resorting to AI to make decisions on their looks, most guides on this website is AI slop. That will only improve with time. Access to scientific literature is already being democratized by AI research engines. Eventually, what was knowledge buried deep in forums or barred by a medical degree is one prompt away. Another aspect is also in ability: UBI will be substantial from an automated economy of billions of automated workers, so most people will now have much easier financial access to steroids, RCs, peptides, other injectables and drugs, and surgeries. This, however, isn't a good thing.

5. Absolute gains massive, Relative gains zero.
This point remains reliant on the idea the black pill and looksmaxxing becomes common: if everyone improves, no one improves. Relative differences would not change by much if everyone adopts the black pill. The number of people more attractive than you won't change because everyone is changing. If there was not a reason to choose you before, there's not a reason to choose you still. Of course, this assumes that everyone improves looks at the same rate. If you went to more extreme methods, then you might gain relatively, only at the cost of the risks you take. Looksmaxxing becomes a tax, you can't get ahead, but you don't want to be left behind. It doesn't lead anywhere anymore.

AGI will make looksmaxxing obsolete, and yet almost necessary.

The average man will be better looking and more alone.

The avg man will no be better looking, because the avg man will be brown

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

AI slop.
and no, we will not all be chad, but were all gonna make it, Brahs!

 

[earnestmach]

AI slop.
and no, we will not all be chad, but were all gonna make it, Brahs!

A few bold words and structure makes any piece of text ai . Can people fucking read anymore?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

A few bold words and structure makes any piece of text ai . Can people fucking read anymore?

Lmao. Don’t denie it. Why did I found not one Grammar misspelling then?

 

[Foreverbrad]

There is absolutely not going to be UBI. Society will be allowed to decline, money will be more important than ever, any unrest or revolution will be crushed by AI policing drones.

An obsolete labour force is not going to be allowed to exist simply due to the waste of resources it represents to maintain it - not to mention the environmental damage.

That’s even the optimistic scenario, pessimistically there will be a meat grinder WW3 or genetically engineered targeted pandemic or some other rapid means to depopulation.

 

[earnestmach]

Society will be allowed to decline

Why wouldn't most democratic societies be able to exert the necessary pressure to get the changes they need, especially if it literally means life or death for that society. Theres plenty of evidence that governments will still serve democracies in crises. No one is just "allowing" themselves or their families to starve. I'm pretty sure the changes that need to be made surely will be made.

An obsolete labour force is not going to be allowed to exist simply due to the waste of resources it represents to maintain it

I don't really think so. Because if we can truly replace every human worker with some genius AI agent, it has massive implications on the output of that society. If there are several data centers of hundreds of billions of AI agents, you probably would have the most productive nation in the world several times over. It is very imaginable that the basic needs of every person and much, much more can be covered, and probably will, considering we live in a democracy.

any unrest or revolution will be crushed by AI policing drones.

pessimistically there will be a meat grinder WW3 or genetically engineered targeted pandemic or some other rapid means to depopulation.

Is it more sensible for the government to nationalize AI and provide UBI for a fraction of a fraction of its output or invest into the largest genocide in human history killing hundreds of millions of people? UBI is hard, but I think less hard for a government than genocide. I don't think there's much reason to NOT do UBI.

 

[earnestmach]

Lmao. Don’t denie it. Why did I found not one Grammar misspelling then?

there's actually plenty. you're just too retarded to find them

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

there's actually plenty. you're just too retarded to find them

Didn’t search jfl

 

[mdawg1244]

probably not in 10 years but hypergamy will obviously still be on the rise maybe quite a few decades and humans will all be 6’6 chads

 

[jteric]

Lmao. Don’t denie it. Why did I found not one Grammar misspelling then?

because english isn't your first language lmao, "mispelling". Answered yourself there

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

because english isn't your first language lmao, "mispelling". Answered yourself there

Joined - Nov 5, 2025
guess what

 

[cash.org]

could be on to smth

 

[kuudrah]

Just a shower thought, wanted to write it out and see what others think.

Artificial General Intelligence will popularize the blackpill. It'll be adopted by the majority of people, and that has terrible implications on society.

The prospect of AGI in the next decade is a serious problem considered by many top computer scientists. It is not ridiculous. To see how, and the other problems it might make, ai2027 is an easy read for a near-worse-case forecast. I will take it as a given, I'm not on this forum to argue about whether AGI will come or not. I wanted to talk mostly about the issue of the post-scarcity society inevitably introduced by AGI, meaning: No jobs, but no need to work too, ridiculously high Universal Basic Income (UBI) from an AI-powered economy (like arabs with no taxes from oil but on steroids).

The problems are:

1. Hypergamy will persist
This is pretty obvious. I don't think there is any reason to believe that in a post-scarcity society, women are suddenly willing to date lower status men. Even if they do, it typically fails.

2. AGI will make us a post-scarcity society
Any remote job, and many physical jobs, will likely be replaced by AGI. UBI is really the only fix to the problem, otherwise society will likely suffer greatly and fail. The introduction of UBI, and no jobs will suddenly bring most men to a level playing-field financially, and perhaps more important, most women level to most men-- the issue is two-fold, inter-gender and intra-gender:

• Men, who could before distinguish themselves from other men with better financial security, now have nothing to show. Hypergamous choices, which before may resort to money, attractiveness, status, will no longer include finances-- emphasis will inevitably shift on relative attractiveness. A hypergamous choice still has to be made, it now just has to be almost exclusively about looks.
• Because hypergamy still persists, the standards of women will inevitably rise, but the decreased relative differences financially between the genders will drastically reduce the amount of men who "qualify" for their elevated standards.

3. Exacerbated hypergamy will make the black pill widely adopted
As a result, less men will qualify for women's standards. More men will feel lonely and wronged, and eventually adopt black pill thinking, so much so it becomes almost extremely common, far more than it is even now. Most men are forced to be made aware of lookism as dating becomes difficult

4. AGI will democratize knowledge and ability to improve looks
People already are resorting to AI to make decisions on their looks, most guides on this website is AI slop. That will only improve with time. Access to scientific literature is already being democratized by AI research engines. Eventually, what was knowledge buried deep in forums or barred by a medical degree is one prompt away. Another aspect is also in ability: UBI will be substantial from an automated economy of billions of automated workers, so most people will now have much easier financial access to steroids, RCs, peptides, other injectables and drugs, and surgeries. This, however, isn't a good thing.

5. Absolute gains massive, Relative gains zero.
This point remains reliant on the idea the black pill and looksmaxxing becomes common: if everyone improves, no one improves. Relative differences would not change by much if everyone adopts the black pill. The number of people more attractive than you won't change because everyone is changing. If there was not a reason to choose you before, there's not a reason to choose you still. Of course, this assumes that everyone improves looks at the same rate. If you went to more extreme methods, then you might gain relatively, only at the cost of the risks you take. Looksmaxxing becomes a tax, you can't get ahead, but you don't want to be left behind. It doesn't lead anywhere anymore.

AGI will make looksmaxxing obsolete, and yet almost necessary.

The average man will be better looking and more alone.

people intrinsically prefer comfort, i think were seeing a little snapshot of what the utmost popularity of bp would be. currently its super trending on tiktok and similar platforms but most of the traction its getting is either people who deny it, claim to be "greypilled" or whitepilled and other lazy copes. theres always been people who claim theyre into looksmaxxing or bp but havent done anything more than softmax like twice a week. Most of the tiktok immigrants dont even have an account here, if they end up getting one i doubt theyd use it more than once or twice ever.

overall were definitely seeing a rise in bp's publicity but that doesnt mean everyone who's learning about it will commit themselves to actually doing better, most will give up quickly or never even start.

all in all, even if we do see a large influx of people on the site and adopting the ideology in general, there wont be a societal change where everyone is committed and ends up ascending.

remember—companies PROFIT off of the populations incapability to get off their couch and go buy food (doordash, uber eats). do you really think a person like that has the mental capacity to ascend, even if they have potential?

 

[irrumator praetor]

Artificial General Intelligence

will not be developed because it would threaten the elite

 

[earnestmach]

people intrinsically prefer comfort, i think were seeing a little snapshot of what the utmost popularity of bp would be. currently its super trending on tiktok and similar platforms but most of the traction its getting is either people who deny it, claim to be "greypilled" or whitepilled and other lazy copes. theres always been people who claim theyre into looksmaxxing or bp but havent done anything more than softmax like twice a week. Most of the tiktok immigrants dont even have an account here, if they end up getting one i doubt theyd use it more than once or twice ever.

overall were definitely seeing a rise in bp's publicity but that doesnt mean everyone who's learning about it will commit themselves to actually doing better, most will give up quickly or never even start.

all in all, even if we do see a large influx of people on the site and adopting the ideology in general, there wont be a societal change where everyone is committed and ends up ascending.

remember—companies PROFIT off of the populations incapability to get off their couch and go buy food (doordash, uber eats). do you really think a person like that has the mental capacity to ascend, even if they have potential?

Yeah, everyone being black pilled doesn't mean everyone will start looksmaxxing. You can also be black pilled and just sit and not change anything, but I think the black pill is a strong motivator for change. There will probably be people who give up, but also a significant amount of people who don't and just suffer anyways.

But in a post-scarcity society, everyone would be made as equal as possible-- in every way outside of those most unchangeable: looks and intelligence and maybe a few other things. It's basically dating in a blue city but 10 times worse. If women still choose hypergamously, and everyone is equal outside of those things, then they have very few things to 'choose up' on. The standards for looks will rise and less men qualify, wether men try or not. But I'm inclined to think a lot of men will try, because it's pretty clear that relationships or children or marriage is a goal for most men.

 

[earnestmach]

will not be developed because it would threaten the elite

The opposite. AI can be used in mass propaganda campaigns and very easily sway democracies, or seriously facilitate revolutions through AI military personnel replacing human soldiers, or simply limiting the most capable models to the most richest, allowing them to be significantly more productive and strategic than the average person. It is very easy for AI, in the hands of a few, to strengthen the elite.

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

It doesn't matter, all I care about is that the knowledge remains. Knowledge is my favorite thing, what defines me. I don't give a damn if everyone else looks better than me, I just want to gain more knowledge and realize what they don't

 

[kuudrah]

Yeah, everyone being black pilled doesn't mean everyone will start looksmaxxing. You can also be black pilled and just sit and not change anything, but I think the black pill is a strong motivator for change. There will probably be people who give up, but also a significant amount of people who don't and just suffer anyways.

But in a post-scarcity society, everyone would be made as equal as possible-- in every way outside of those most unchangeable: looks and intelligence and maybe a few other things. It's basically dating in a blue city but 10 times worse. If women still choose hypergamously, and everyone is equal outside of those things, then they have very few things to 'choose up' on. The standards for looks will rise and less men qualify, wether men try or not. But I'm inclined to think a lot of men will try, because it's pretty clear that relationships or children or marriage is a goal for most men.

You’re definitely not wrong, I just think you’re giving the greater population more credit than they deserve. I guess at the end of the day all we can do is hope I’m right and you’re not

 

[Docc]

tldr: society will become communist and everyone will be chad

 

[INCEST]

100 % hand written 655 word essay, impressive!

 

[exkira]

Just a shower thought, wanted to write it out and see what others think.

Artificial General Intelligence will popularize the blackpill. It'll be adopted by the majority of people, and that has terrible implications on society.

The prospect of AGI in the next decade is a serious problem considered by many top computer scientists. It is not ridiculous. To see how, and the other problems it might make, ai2027 is an easy read for a near-worse-case forecast. I will take it as a given, I'm not on this forum to argue about whether AGI will come or not. I wanted to talk mostly about the issue of the post-scarcity society inevitably introduced by AGI, meaning: No jobs, but no need to work too, ridiculously high Universal Basic Income (UBI) from an AI-powered economy (like arabs with no taxes from oil but on steroids).

The problems are:

1. Hypergamy will persist
This is pretty obvious. I don't think there is any reason to believe that in a post-scarcity society, women are suddenly willing to date lower status men. Even if they do, it typically fails.

2. AGI will make us a post-scarcity society
Any remote job, and many physical jobs, will likely be replaced by AGI. UBI is really the only fix to the problem, otherwise society will likely suffer greatly and fail. The introduction of UBI, and no jobs will suddenly bring most men to a level playing-field financially, and perhaps more important, most women level to most men-- the issue is two-fold, inter-gender and intra-gender:

• Men, who could before distinguish themselves from other men with better financial security, now have nothing to show. Hypergamous choices, which before may resort to money, attractiveness, status, will no longer include finances-- emphasis will inevitably shift on relative attractiveness. A hypergamous choice still has to be made, it now just has to be almost exclusively about looks.
• Because hypergamy still persists, the standards of women will inevitably rise, but the decreased relative differences financially between the genders will drastically reduce the amount of men who "qualify" for their elevated standards.

3. Exacerbated hypergamy will make the black pill widely adopted
As a result, less men will qualify for women's standards. More men will feel lonely and wronged, and eventually adopt black pill thinking, so much so it becomes almost extremely common, far more than it is even now. Most men are forced to be made aware of lookism as dating becomes difficult

4. AGI will democratize knowledge and ability to improve looks
People already are resorting to AI to make decisions on their looks, most guides on this website is AI slop. That will only improve with time. Access to scientific literature is already being democratized by AI research engines. Eventually, what was knowledge buried deep in forums or barred by a medical degree is one prompt away. Another aspect is also in ability: UBI will be substantial from an automated economy of billions of automated workers, so most people will now have much easier financial access to steroids, RCs, peptides, other injectables and drugs, and surgeries. This, however, isn't a good thing.

5. Absolute gains massive, Relative gains zero.
This point remains reliant on the idea the black pill and looksmaxxing becomes common: if everyone improves, no one improves. Relative differences would not change by much if everyone adopts the black pill. The number of people more attractive than you won't change because everyone is changing. If there was not a reason to choose you before, there's not a reason to choose you still. Of course, this assumes that everyone improves looks at the same rate. If you went to more extreme methods, then you might gain relatively, only at the cost of the risks you take. Looksmaxxing becomes a tax, you can't get ahead, but you don't want to be left behind. It doesn't lead anywhere anymore.

AGI will make looksmaxxing obsolete, and yet almost necessary.

The average man will be better looking and more alone.

This assumes most people end up putting any effort into their appearance.

The absolute basics of looksmaxxing that take you 70% of the way to being fully softmaxxed, (accutane, and getting lean) everybody already knows, but most people still dont do it. People might know they can get better looking, but most dont TRULY understand whats at stake so they dont try in the first place.

just go in the ratings subforum to see what I mean.

 

[joseph]

This assumes most people end up putting any effort into their appearance.

The absolute basics of looksmaxxing that take you 70% of the way to being fully softmaxxed, (accutane, and getting lean) everybody already knows, but most people still dont do it. People might know they can get better looking, but most dont TRULY understand whats at stake so they dont try in the first place.

just go in the ratings subforum to see what I mean.

Hope you’re right & we don’t see looks inflation