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1. The only relevant condition is the present condition; man cannot find comfort in things either past or future rather he is concerned only about his present condition. Ie. if he was warm previously but is freezing to death currently, he will find no tangible and physical comfort in that warmth as it is entirely irrelevant to his present state. Thus, if he does not exist, he will not find comfort in a previous state of existence, as there is no "he" to speak of.
2. The same concept is applied to our necessary eternal state, as covered by the likes of Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas etc. The eternality of the soul is a logical precedent, you may deny this, but it is still an undeniable possibility when compared to simply nonexistence after death.
Now apply these two principles to suicidal individuals, they wish for their suffering to end and for suicide to be the method in which it ends. However, you're relying on the hope that:
A. The soul is not eternal, and that the only relevant reality is the present reality (this is akin to a fetus arrogantly assuming that being in the womb is the entirety of existence, even though the logos, or essential intellect/consciousness is not actually understood in any capacity).
B. The suffering will actually end, since suicide is considered a grave mortal sin in every traditional philosophical school of thought and religion with any historical basis, it is a given that the suffering will only be prolonged in an eternal state of misery and reflection called Hell.
C. Roping actually means anything at all, since we have proven that the only relevant state is the current, present state of man, suffering is insignificant as time is arbitrary and suffering must necessarily cease according to the irreligious, secularist view. Thus, roping is no different than simply continuing to exist, or having lived every pleasure on earth, or having never existed at all etc. Since all of these things are temporary and finite, and thus irrelevant to your future state of nonexistence.
Conclusion:
There is no point in roping whatsoever, as physical suffering is provably temporary. Thus, you should keep living, if not for the possibility that the soul is eternal, then for the fact that roping does not mean anything at all.
(Heavily summarized, I can elaborate further)
2. The same concept is applied to our necessary eternal state, as covered by the likes of Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas etc. The eternality of the soul is a logical precedent, you may deny this, but it is still an undeniable possibility when compared to simply nonexistence after death.
Now apply these two principles to suicidal individuals, they wish for their suffering to end and for suicide to be the method in which it ends. However, you're relying on the hope that:
A. The soul is not eternal, and that the only relevant reality is the present reality (this is akin to a fetus arrogantly assuming that being in the womb is the entirety of existence, even though the logos, or essential intellect/consciousness is not actually understood in any capacity).
B. The suffering will actually end, since suicide is considered a grave mortal sin in every traditional philosophical school of thought and religion with any historical basis, it is a given that the suffering will only be prolonged in an eternal state of misery and reflection called Hell.
C. Roping actually means anything at all, since we have proven that the only relevant state is the current, present state of man, suffering is insignificant as time is arbitrary and suffering must necessarily cease according to the irreligious, secularist view. Thus, roping is no different than simply continuing to exist, or having lived every pleasure on earth, or having never existed at all etc. Since all of these things are temporary and finite, and thus irrelevant to your future state of nonexistence.
Conclusion:
There is no point in roping whatsoever, as physical suffering is provably temporary. Thus, you should keep living, if not for the possibility that the soul is eternal, then for the fact that roping does not mean anything at all.
(Heavily summarized, I can elaborate further)
