Is a small rib cage a death sentence?

its all about clavicles. ribcage doesnt matter. i have decent clavicles but narrow ribcage so when i was skinny i thought it was over for my frame, but after building muscle, specifically lats and delts, i have broad shoulders. now that i think about it, boomers always have a huge ribcage because it never stops growing but their shoulders are narrow as fuck
 
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its all about clavicles. ribcage doesnt matter. i have decent clavicles but narrow ribcage so when i was skinny i thought it was over for my frame, but after building muscle, specifically lats and delts, i have broad shoulders. now that i think about it, boomers always have a huge ribcage because it never stops growing but their shoulders are narrow as fuck

What can you say about my clavicles from the pics I posted?

All pre-gymcelling
 
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its all about clavicles. ribcage doesnt matter. i have decent clavicles but narrow ribcage so when i was skinny i thought it was over for my frame, but after building muscle, specifically lats and delts, i have broad shoulders. now that i think about it, boomers always have a huge ribcage because it never stops growing but their shoulders are narrow as fuck

Stop saying ribcage doesn't matter, it does. Small ribcage on longer clavicles looks laughable.
 
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What can you say about my clavicles from the pics I posted?
they are average. building muscle will do a lot for you. you look like zyzz before he started lifting, infact he was narrower than you, but when his physique was well within the natural limit "ottermode" his frame looked well above average. you need to start lifting
 
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its over
 
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Stop saying ribcage doesn't matter, it does. Small ribcage on longer clavicles looks laughable.
it's negligible. no one gives a fuck about your small ribcage if you have broad shoulders, and no one gives a fuck about your barrel ribcage if you have narrow shoulders . SHOULDERS are the bodily symbol of masculinity and dimorphism
 
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Reminder that if you dont look like that 6'3 wide framed big ribcage greek god you arent considered a human
 
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Nah, narrow shoulders and/or wide hips are a death sentence.
 
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it's negligible. no one gives a fuck about your small ribcage if you have broad shoulders, and no one gives a fuck about your barrel ribcage if you have narrow shoulders . SHOULDERS are the bodily symbol of masculinity and dimorphism

To say ribcage doesn't matter is stupid, and shoulders are not important in of itself, shoulder to waist ratio is and a smaller ribcage makes your waist looks bigger in proportion.
 
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no ribcage for your face and height
 
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Barely acceptable human in 2021
 
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To say ribcage doesn't matter is stupid, and shoulders are not important in of itself, shoulder to waist ratio is and a smaller ribcage makes your waist looks bigger in proportion.
do you not understand hyperbole? when we say something doesn't matter we mean it is negligible in comparison, and that's a fact. the ratio matters but its's retarded to think the ratio is more important. assuming they're both lean and just have different bones, a guy with 60cm shoulders and a wider waist will always look better than a guy with 40cm shoulders and a tiny ant waist. a smaller ribcage may make your waist look bigger but your SHOULDER to waist ratio is exactly that. it's mainly the shoulders that have the visual effect, and building the lats heavily mitigates a smaller ribcage whilst no amount of delt muscle mitigates narrow clavicles, and it doesn't matter that much if your ribcage makes your waist size look different because the shoulders are still the hightlight.
 
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do you not understand hyperbole? when we say something doesn't matter we mean it is negligible in comparison, and that's a fact. the ratio matters but its's retarded to think the ratio is more important. assuming they're both lean and just have different bones, a guy with 60cm shoulders and a wider waist will always look better than a guy with 40cm shoulders and a tiny ant waist. a smaller ribcage may make your waist look bigger but your SHOULDER to waist ratio is exactly that. it's mainly the shoulders that have the visual effect, and building the lats heavily mitigates a smaller ribcage whilst no amount of delt muscle mitigates narrow clavicles, and it doesn't matter that much if your ribcage makes your waist size look different because the shoulders are still the hightlight.

I agree that shoulders are very important but ratios are way more important than just shoulder size itself and im not talking about extremes because I could also compare a guy with huge shoudler that has a waist bigger than his shoulders.

Ribcage is also important, look at any top tier bodies and they have good ribcage. Ribcage is also highly dimorphic since males usually have 10% - 12% bigger lung capacity than females of the same size.
 
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I agree that shoulders are very important but ratios are way more important than just shoulder size itself and im not talking about extremes because I could also compare a guy with huge shoudler that has a waist bigger than his shoulders.

Ribcage is also important, look at any top tier bodies and they have good ribcage. Ribcage is also highly dimorphic since males usually have 10% - 12% bigger lung capacity than females of the same size.
shoulders are still way more important. obviously top tier bodies will have it all, but those are extreme examples. if you look at guys with decent to good bodies, they all have decent clavicles but not necessarily the best ribcage. on the other hand guys with a big ribcage look like shit if they have short clavicles even if they are jacked. just look at david laid, when he was scrawny you can see he had a tiny bird ribcage but good clavicles and now that he's jacked he has an insane dimorphic v shape despite his smaller ribcage
 
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Look up “Francisco Lachowski shirtless”. His frame is nothing impressive.
noone said it's bodybuilder tier but you're coping if u think its as bad as the frame on ur skinnyfat body
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shoulders are still way more important. obviously top tier bodies will have it all, but those are extreme examples. if you look at guys with decent to good bodies, they all have decent clavicles but not necessarily the best ribcage. on the other hand guys with a big ribcage look like shit if they have short clavicles even if they are jacked. just look at david laid, when he was scrawny you can see he had a tiny bird ribcage but good clavicles and now that he's jacked he has an insane dimorphic v shape despite his smaller ribcage

Yes shoudlers are still more important.

If you look at david laid his ribcage is small but the his ribcage to waist ratio is still good. If his waist was bigger than his ribcage he'd look like shit even with big shoulders. Ribcage is important.

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This looks commical.
 
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noone said it's bodybuilder tier but you're coping if u think its as bad as the frame on ur skinnyfat body
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Shrink him down to 6’ and it probably wouldn’t be much different if we were next to each other.
I can always lose fat and add muscle. Better than spamming “FACE” on every looksmaxxing thread that isn’t face related and growing gay rainbow TikTok hair.
 
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Yes shoudlers are still more important.

If you look at david laid his ribcage is small but the his ribcage to waist ratio is still good. If his waist was bigger than his ribcage he'd look like shit even with big shoulders. Ribcage is important.
all that proves is that waist size is more important than the ribcage. if his waist was bigger than his ribcage, he'd look like shit, but his actual ribcage size would be unchanged, so what you're saying is that the waist size matters more than the ribcage itself
 
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incel in 2022

no muscle for ur ribcage XDD

I’m not looking to be a bodybuilder. It’s mainly my arms I want to grow. I don’t live in a warm country so I’ll rarely bee seen without my shirt.
I’d love to see how your rib cage looks, considering your views on gymcelling.
 
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all that proves is that waist size is more important than the ribcage. if his waist was bigger than his ribcage, he'd look like shit, but his actual ribcage size would be unchanged, so what you're saying is that the waist size matters more than the ribcage itself

You could also make his ribcage smaller and leave his waist unchanged it'd still look like shit.

I'm saying ratios matter more and that ribcage is still important, to say other wise is coping with a shit tier body.
 
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Ideal Shoulder To Waist Ratio 1.62-1.8

Ideal Shoulder To Hip Ratio 0.9
 
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better ribcage, better breathing, better breast muscles, most likely wider frame, naturally thicker neck, better posture naturally
 
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I’m not looking to be a bodybuilder. It’s mainly my arms I want to grow. I don’t live in a warm country so I’ll rarely bee seen without my shirt.
I’d love to see how your rib cage looks, considering your views on gymcelling.
i unironically frame, hip and ribcage mog u lol, its over
 
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woah kinda gay to be asking me for shirtless pics lol

Not any more gay than worshiping TikTok twinks.
Not asking for fap material, just want you to prove your point.

What’s your bideltoid?
 
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Not any more gay than worshiping TikTok twinks.
Not asking for fap material, just want you to prove your point.

What’s your bideltoid?
i dont measure my body cause im not a gymcel lol
and no im not taking shirtless pics for ur gay ass
 
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You could also make his ribcage smaller and leave his waist unchanged it'd still look like shit.

I'm saying ratios matter more and that ribcage is still important, to say other wise is coping with a shit tier body.
ok, make his clavicles smaller and leave everything else unchanged and it looks like shit. just because a ribcage can make a body look worse doesn't change the fact that clavicles are far more important. ratios matter but your clavicles are the main thing that effects the v taper. given that they're both lean, big shoulders with a bad waist looks better than narrow shoulders with a tiny waist
Shoulder model

this guy has hip bones wider than his ribcage but still has an insane v taper due to his clavicle
 
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its all about clavicles. ribcage doesnt matter.
They work together in terms of building bideltoid, and usually they also grow together.

There are no discrepancies.
 
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i dont measure my body cause im not a gymcel lol
and no im not taking shirtless pics for ur gay ass

So if you don’t actually know if you’re wider than me then you’re just talking out your ass.

>will happily post pictures of male models doing homoerotic poses, meant to appeal to gays and teenage girls
>won’t post a picture of his upper body to prove his point

Lmao.
 
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They work together in terms of building bideltoid, and usually they also grow together.

There are no discrepancies.
there are absolutely discrepanices, they are correlated but they aren't the exact same bones so there are discrepancies
Shoulder

small ribcage + above average clavicle
 
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ok, make his clavicles smaller and leave everything else unchanged and it looks like shit. just because a ribcage can make a body look worse doesn't change the fact that clavicles are far more important. ratios matter but your clavicles are the main thing that effects the v taper. given that they're both lean, big shoulders with a bad waist looks better than narrow shoulders with a tiny waist
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this guy has hip bones wider than his ribcage but still has an insane v taper due to his clavicle

Im not arguing that clavicles doesn't matter or that its not more important mate. How big your clavicle, ribcage and waist is in porportion to each other is what effect a V tape not just shoulder size alone aka RATIOS.

Not to mention bigger ribcage is almost guaranteed a bigger clavicle, same cannot be said the other way round.
 
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Im not arguing that clavicles doesn't matter or that its not more important mate. How big your clavicle, ribcage and waist is in porportion to each other is what effect a V tape not just shoulder size alone.

Not to mention bigger ribcage is almost guaranteed a bigger clavicle, same cannot be said the other way round.
it's the opposite. guys with a wide clavicle tend to have bigger ribcages. not the other way round. and clavicles are absolutely more important than the ribcage for ratios, that's why it's called the shoulder to waist ratio. just look at the guys in the pics i posted.
Shoulder model2

another example of unimpressive ribcage with a sick v taper due to big clavicles. you will never see a guy with who has a shape as good as this with a wide ribcage and shorter clavicles
 
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So if you don’t actually know if you’re wider than me then you’re just talking out your ass.

>will happily post pictures of male models doing homoerotic poses, meant to appeal to gays and teenage girls
>won’t post a picture of his upper body to prove his point

Lmao.
what? you really dont believe that i mog your puny frame?
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hate to break it to you but yours is well below average
 
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1st percentile lung capacity
 
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it's the opposite. guys with a wide clavicle tend to have bigger ribcages. not the other way round. and clavicles are absolutely more important than the ribcage for ratios, that's why it's called the shoulder to waist ratio. just look at the guys in the pics i posted.
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another example of unimpressive ribcage with a sick v taper due to big clavicles. you will never see a guy with who has a shape as good as this with a wide ribcage and shorter clavicles

"guys with a wide clavicle tend to have bigger ribcages" yet all the examples you brought up are guys with big shoulders and a small ribcage, so how the fuck is it the opposite. Show me someone with a big rib cage and small clavicle.

Yes I agree on ratios but what you were arguing before was that only shoulders matter while I'm arguing ratios. Once again, a huge shoulder with a waist the same size will look like shit.

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Plus i have a similar body to this guy but because I have a bigger rib cage, it makes my V tapper looks better.
 
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what? you really dont believe that i mog your puny frame?
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hate to break it to you but yours is well below average

Im skinny fat and I have a small rib cage, already said that so I don’t see what you’re trying to prove. When I’m outside I’m at the very least average when it comes to bideltoid width. I measured it to be 17 - 18 inches.

There is a good chance you’re below that, so unless you measure it or at least post a picture you can just continue barking or jacking off to rainbow-coloured curtain hairstyles along with all the other prepubescent girls.
 
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Is that photoshopped? He posted selfies recently and he looks like a gigaframecel, given his height.
Probably. Chico looks really small with a T-shirt on.
 
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Im skinny fat and I have a small rib cage, already said that so I don’t see what you’re trying to prove. When I’m outside I’m at the very least average when it comes to bideltoid width. I measured it to be 17 - 18 inches.

There is a good chance you’re below that, so unless you measure it or at least post a picture you can just continue barking or jacking off to rainbow-coloured curtain hairstyles along with all the other prepubescent girls.
ok framecel lol
 
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My shoulder width is average.
What’s yours?
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this frame isnt average bro, i really dont want to like make fun of you or bully you or anything i just called you skinnyfat as a small joke, please stop blowing this out of proportion or ill show no mercy
 
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yet all the examples you brought up are guys with big shoulders and a small ribcage
thanks for proving my point for me. all the guys i posted have small ribcages but have insane v tapers due to their big clavicles, therefore proving that clavicles are more important than ribcage for ratios.
Now show me someone with a big rib cage and small clavicle.
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Yes I agree on ratios but what you were arguing before was that only shoulders matter while I'm arguing ratios.
you are too autistic to understand hyperbole apparently. when i say it's all about shoulders i don't mean that's all that matters, i mean it's the most important. and i never once said ratios don't matter, just that shoulders are the main thing that affects the ratio which i posted several examples of
Once again, a huge shoulder with a waist the same size will look like shit.
no one has the fucking bone structure to have a waist as wide as a pair of wide shoulders. if a guy has wide shoulders and his waist is just as big that's because he has high body fat.
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Plus i have a similar body to this guy but because I have a bigger rib cage, it makes my V tapper looks better.
you don't have a better v taper than this guy. post pics or it's just e stats.
 
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this frame isnt average bro, i really dont want to like make fun of you or bully you or anything i just called you skinnyfat as a small joke, please stop blowing this out of proportion or ill show no mercy

Lmao what a bitch. Of course you will... yet you’re too much of a pussy to post yours. I wonder why.

I measured myself to be 18 inches wide. One google search tells me the average is 16, but probably just like with height stats you need to add an extra 2 inches, making me exactly average, with a below average rib cage.

Now go ahead and post yours or you’ll just seem like an insecure barker. Wouldn’t want that.
 
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