is being lean heightmaxxing or minimising heightmaxxing gains ?

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

should i eat ton of food im 16 rn turning 17 this yr and was wondering

like should i excerise a lot and eat enough or eat a lot of protien and shit ?

 

[OnlyHeightMatters]

aromatase and estrogen increase when you have a lot of fat so yeah eat all u can & exercise but stay relatively lean

 

[Deleted member 25667]

Depends how lean. If youre still growing you don't want to be sub 10% bf and should probably be in a slight caloric surplus to maximise possible height gains

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Depends how lean. If youre still growing you don't want to be sub 10% bf and should probably be in a slight caloric surplus to maximise possible height gains

i see

but after 19 yrs old its just being tall, handsome and lean ?

 

[Deleted member 25667]

i see

but after 19 yrs old its just being tall, handsome and lean ?

Yes, also good physique

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Yes, also good physique

what's considered a good physqiue

 

[Deleted member 25667]

what's considered a good physqiue

your pfp is ideal tbh

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

your pfp is ideal tbh

hard to achieve natty with average genetics

 

[Deleted member 25667]

hard to achieve natty with average genetics

that's what gear is for

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

that's what gear is for

how can u do gear and be handsome at the same time tho. can only pick one good face or good body if ur taking or not taking roids

 

[Rodion Raskolnikov]

how can u do gear and be handsome at the same time tho. can only pick one good face or good body if ur taking or not taking roids

your avi is an achievable amount of body mass, but you likely lack the muscle insertions to be as aesthetic as him.

 

[Deleted member 25667]

how can u do gear and be handsome at the same time tho. can only pick one good face or good body if ur taking or not taking roids

Just don't go over the top, we're not trying to acquire the top mens classic physique mr olympia.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

your avi is an achievable amount of body mass, but you likely lack the muscle insertions to be as aesthetic as him.

2nd looks photoshopped but iswtg thats how broad my shoulders are and at school i get shit ton of compliments for it and im untrained too

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Just don't go over the top, we're not trying to acquire the top mens classic physique mr olympia.

but like wont even small doses cause shit hair.collagen etc. ?

 

[Deleted member 25667]

but like wont even small doses cause shit hair.collagen etc. ?

Unless youre prone to acne breakouts and rapid hairloss then probably not. Look at all the top fitness "aesthetic" influencers - david laid, alex eubank, lex little, david geutsch. All chads with no signs of balding and decent collagen despite injecting tons of gear

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Unless youre prone to acne breakouts and rapid hairless then probably not. Look at all the top fitness "aesthetic" influencers - david laid, alex eubank, lex little, david geutsch. All chads with no signs of balding and decent collagen despite injecting tons of gear

what's safest one to take ?

 

[Rodion Raskolnikov]

2nd looks photoshopped but iswtg thats how broad my shoulders are and at school i get shit ton of compliments for it and im untrained too

good frame, train hard and eat good

and do sports, preferably endurance-based.

 

[Deleted member 25667]

what's safest one to take ?

Not too sure to give you an answer as of yet, but go check out some body building/roiding/gym forums. Theyll have more info about it

 

[Rodion Raskolnikov]

what's safest one to take ?

don't do roids before 25, even then, you have no way to gauge your response to roids until you actually do them.

do you want an enlarged ventricular cap for the remainder of your life?

you're 17 rn, train hard for 2-3 years and you'il have a more than commensurate natty physique.

women don't want more than a natty, lean physique, especially given your frame.

roids are for cursed framelets or lazy, narcy fags that can't dial in their diet properly and will gain 10 lbs of bloated, water mass on cycle these cursed children of yakub will never look as good as a natty that can put the fork away

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

don't do roids before 25, even then, you have no way to gauge your response to roids until you actually do them.

do you want an enlarged ventricular cap for the of your life?

you're 17 rn, train hard for 2-3 year and you'il have a more than commensurate natty physique.

women don't want more than a natty, lean physique, especially given your frame.

roids are either for cursed framelets or lazy, narcy fags that can't even diet properly and will gain 10 lbs of bloated, water mass on cycle and never look as good as a natty that can put the fork away

i see i look bigger irl btw photos i dont look big here but at school im getting compliments for my broad shoulders and being jacked even tho i dont workout and they believe im lying and larping when i actually dont.

its suprising becuase when we have a gym the dudes who gym out lift me on the compounds by a lot and they believe me when i could barely deadlift 110kg when they did 185kg for 5 reps and look smaller then me and more narrow

 

[Deleted member 22191]

one word, genetics

 

[Rodion Raskolnikov]

i see i look bigger irl btw photos i dont look big here but at school im getting compliments for my broad shoulders and being jacked even tho i dont workout and they believe im lying and larping when i actually dont.

its suprising becuase when we have a gym the dudes who gym out lift me on the compounds by a lot and they believe me when i could barely deadlift 110kg when they did 185kg for 5 reps and look smaller then me and more narrow

you have the advantage of an above average bideltoid width- and a small waist, similar to mine, but you have wider clavicles.

rn i would get a bit leaner by way of playing a little more sports and cutting out retarded foods e.g don't eat cookies or other semite concoctions

eat like a man.

a mental cue i used to navigate cravings is visualizing that desire to such a degree that it appears to you another person. what type of base animal can't put the fork down? that inner voice that tells you to stay home, or give in to this or that- that voice is an unequivocal bitch, a person you would be disgusted by were you not so blinded by yourself.

other than that you just have to take advantage of puberty, eat well, sleep 8 h minimum, play sports et cetera, all this should be obvious to you.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

you have the advantage of an above average bideltoid width- and a small waist, similar to mine, but you have wider clavicles.

rn i would get a bit leaner by way of playing a little more sports and cutting out retarded foods e.g don't eat cookies or other semite concoctions

eat like a man.

a mental cue i used to navigate cravings is visualizing that desire to such a degree that it appears to you another person. what type of base animal can't put the fork down? that inner voice that tells you to stay home, or give in to this or that- that voice is an unequivocal bitch, a person you would be disgusted by were you not so blinded by yourself.

other than that you just have to take advantage of puberty, eat well, sleep 8 h minimum, play sports et cetera, all this should be obvious to you.

is Austin Dunham physique more attainable then my avi ?

ngl hes pretty good looking like tyrone realaistically speaking but 5'8

 

[Graham]

2nd looks photoshopped but iswtg thats how broad my shoulders are and at school i get shit ton of compliments for it and im untrained too

Stay natural, keep fit and when you're a bit older, get lean, but that is genetic lottery frame. You have to remember, standards on lookism sites are wayyyy higher than standards in real life so don't do anything too drastic that can cause problems down the line, furthermore, being lean with some muscle trumps being completely massive for most women (outside of certain niches of women).

 

[Deleted member 25965]

aromatase and estrogen increase when you have a lot of fat so yeah eat all u can & exercise but stay relatively lean

wouldn't this do the opposite and height minimize, not sure i'm just asking out of curiosity

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Make sure to eat high protein, 1g per lb of bodyweight to maximize bone growth. My biggest regret is not eating high protein during puberty.

 

[User28823]

In general you want to avoid dirty bulking at all costs because you'll gain more fat and that increases aromatization of testosterone to estrogen and reduces growth hormone pulses that fasting would provide.

If you're heightmaxxing this is what I would do if I could go back to your age:

- Nuke my estrogen to < 10pg/mL with an aromatase inhibitor, letrazole being the best performing in all studies tracking height increase in kids with short stature because it is the strongest of all AIs.
- Take 25mg of MK677 at bare minimum but optimally follow the standard MK677 + CJC 1295 with DAC + Huperzine A to mimic a pharma grade dose of growth hormone. Of course if you can get legit HGH or IGF-1 (unlikely) then that is the best route.
- Consume VERY HIGH protein, following the guide of your weight in kg * (anywhere from 2 to 4) = protein intake (in grams) for optimal height increase.
- Stay as lean as possible so that less testosterone converts to estrogen

 

[OnlyHeightMatters]

wouldn't this do the opposite and height minimize, not sure i'm just asking out of curiosity

you misunderstood what I meant I think. I'm saying to eat as much as possible without getting fat, as getting fat = +aromatase +estrogen = heightmin

 

[Deleted member 25965]

you misunderstood what I meant I think. I'm saying to eat as much as possible without getting fat, as getting fat = +aromatase +estrogen = heightmin

oh sorry i thought you were saying to eat as much as possible