is @Bryce right?

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i just don't know how it explains why sadness is inner feeling and feels like sadness

 

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@thn @Dorogi

 

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@TiktokUser

 

[psychopathic]

i just don't know how it explains why sadness is inner feeling and feels like sadness

It doesn't wtf, the entire conversation leading up to this point was about when and why men should cry. You brought up "qualia" out of nowhere when that wasn't the driving point of the conversation. The entire thread for reference:

how often do you cry?

i do it once or twice per week

looksmax.org

 

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It doesn't wtf, the entire conversation leading up to this point was about when and why men should cry. You brought up "qualia" out of nowhere when that wasn't the driving point of the conversation. The entire thread for reference:

how often do you cry?

i do it once or twice per week

looksmax.org

but emotionality and qualia are connected to each other

 

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It doesn't wtf, the entire conversation leading up to this point was about when and why men should cry. You brought up "qualia" out of nowhere when that wasn't the driving point of the conversation. The entire thread for reference:

how often do you cry?

i do it once or twice per week

looksmax.org

i brought up qulia to explain it why inner feeling like cry wanting is subjective

 

[psychopathic]

but emotionality and qualia are connected to each other

Again this is entirely separate and has nothing to do with emotional regulation in correlation to hormonal balance.

i brought up qulia to explain it why inner feeling like cry wanting is subjective

It isn't though. Not a single man with above 1,000 ng/dL testosterone levels would cry over something that has never happened or has not yet happened, such as a sob story or a fucking movie trailer.

 

[Dorogi]

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Im on a pretty high dosage of test and emotionaly i dont feel that diffrent

 

[Clqs]

Who

 

[psychopathic]

Who

You know damn well who I am you bastard

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Again this is entirely separate and has nothing to do with emotional regulation in correlation to hormonal balance.

how are they separate, you can't have a conversation about the right" or "wrong emotions to have without talking about the subjective quality of those emotions because emotionality is the phenomenon of having emotions, qualia is the "what-it's-like-ness" of those emotions, if you understand ofc.

It isn't though. Not a single man with above 1,000 ng/dL testosterone levels would cry over something that has never happened or has not yet happened, such as a sob story or a fucking movie trailer.

why is this causality instead of correlation?

 

[Eskorbutin]

When I was fat and low T I had way more trouble handling my emotions wether crying or raging. When I lost weight and rebalanced I still felt things but I was more clearly aware of my feelings and what they really mean. Could it also mean I matured during this time? I don't know

 

[psychopathic]

how are they separate, you can't have a conversation about the right" or "wrong emotions to have without talking about the subjective quality of those emotions because emotionality is the phenomenon of having emotions, qualia is the "what-it's-like-ness" of those emotions, if you understand ofc.


why is this causality instead of correlation?

You're living in a dunning Kruger haze of labcoat and philosophical horseshit that I do not care about. Higher testosterone is proven to improve emotional control and awareness, simple as that. The higher T you are, the less you will cry and throw conniption fits over dumb stuff. That was the original point anyways, now you're just conflating that with this qualia nonsense for no reason.

 

[Dorogi]

Testosterone levels probably influence your emotions i dont doubt that but its mostly just how your brain is wired. When i was younger i used to cry about everything and couldnt control my emotions because i (probably) had an underdeveloped frontal lobe (misdiagnosed with ASD) and around 12-13 it started developing and since than i cried like a couple times a year but now i havent cried in 2 years or so which makes me think its mostly brain wiring

 

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You're living in a dunning Kruger haze of labcoat and philosophical horseshit that I do not care about. Higher testosterone is proven to improve emotional control and awareness, simple as that. The higher T you are, the less you will cry and throw conniption fits over dumb stuff. That was the original point anyways, now you're just conflating that with this qualia nonsense for no reason.

if you aren't into philosophy then why are you saying that emotionality must be objective it's already philosophy, just a shit one but it is philosophy. emotions are inner feelings and inner feelings are always subjective, even if testosterone has some impact upon it

 

[psychopathic]

Testosterone levels probably influence your emotions i dont doubt that but its mostly just how your brain is wired. When i was younger i used to cry about everything and couldnt control my emotions because i (probably) had an underdeveloped frontal lobe (misdiagnosed with ASD) and around 12-13 it started developing and since than i cried like a couple times a year but now i havent cried in 2 years or so which makes me think its mostly brain wiring

They undoubtably do, as does frontal lobe development. But don't bring that up to @theRetard because then he'll just try to play the gotcha game with hypothetical ramblings.

 

[Dorogi]

They undoubtably do, as does frontal lobe development. But don't bring that up to @theRetard because then he'll just try to play the gotcha game with hypothetical ramblings.

Idk much about the debate im pretty low iq for an ndcel

 

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It doesn't wtf, the entire conversation leading up to this point was about when and why men should cry. You brought up "qualia" out of nowhere when that wasn't the driving point of the conversation. The entire thread for reference:

how often do you cry?

i do it once or twice per week

looksmax.org

@Klasik616 thoughts

 

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They undoubtably do, as does frontal lobe development. But don't bring that up to @theRetard because then he'll just try to play the gotcha game with hypothetical ramblings.

you can't prove that crying caused by low t

 

[psychopathic]

you can't prove that crying is the signs of low t

Oh my God you fucking moron, I am not going to engage with your retarded half-assed attempts at debating after this. Not once did I say crying in and of itself was a sign of low T, I said the consistency of the event and the context surrounding it is reflective of your testosterone levels. So now that I've repeated that for the 10th time, I'll leave you to your obsession with qualia. Hope this didn't make you cry!

 

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Oh my God you fucking moron, I am not going to engage with your retarded half-assed attempts at debating after this. Not once did I say crying in and of itself was a sign of low T, I said the consistency of the event and the context surrounding it is reflective of your testosterone levels. So now that I've repeated that for the 10th time, I'll leave you to your obsession with qualia. Hope this didn't make you cry!

well i asked about why is crying caused by low t instead of being correlated