IS chico a MTN?

[returnofthecutecel]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

 

[Zenis]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

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He looks insane in this photo

 

[registerfasterusing]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

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Gigachad

 

[Deleted member 175802]

high mtn? you are out of your fucking mind

 

[returnofthecutecel]

He looks insane in this photo

Looks high mtn

 

[Deleted member 175802]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

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cl easily

 

[returnofthecutecel]

high mtn? you are out of your fucking mind

If he opened a thread in a rating sub he'd get HTN ratings

 

[Deleted member 175802]

If he opened a thread in a rating sub he'd get HTN ratings

cope

 

[Zenis]

If he opened a thread in a rating sub he'd get HTN ratings

Because people here are retarted

 

[returnofthecutecel]

cope

Ramirez mogs chico

 

[Deleted member 175802]

Ramirez mogs chico

i know

 

[Deleted member 175802]

Ramirez mogs chico

we have to stay rira glazers cause we’re ethnic brothers

 

[pfl]

Ramirez mogs chico

No
Yes if his health indicators were better

 

[returnofthecutecel]

No
Yes if his health indicators were better

Because ramirez never looksmaxxed he didn't even have teeth... If he wanted he could've mog hard every PSL god

 

[pfl]

Because ramirez never looksmaxxed he didn't even have teeth... If he wanted he could've mog hard every PSL god

Not every psl god
He would be high chad

 

[Deleted member 175802]

No
Yes if his health indicators were better

Jordan is htn

 

[pfl]

Jordan is htn

Water

 

[Zenis]

Jordan is htn

Rameriz is a worse looking ethnic version of barret you shitskin worshipper

 

[trvechud]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

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He was carried by insane skin quality tbh

 

[Deleted member 175802]

Rameriz is a worse looking ethnic version of barret you shitskin worshipper

stfu you don’t even know why i said that retard

 

[returnofthecutecel]

He was carried by insane skin quality tbh

Harmony

 

[pfl]

Rameriz is a worse looking ethnic version of barret you shitskin worshipper

Hes an upgraded version of barrett lmao

 

[NoaA99]

Yeah, this is clearly your average Joe, the kind of guy I run into multiple times a day

 

[returnofthecutecel]

Hes an upgraded version of barrett lmao
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Barrett is a HTN

 

[Zenis]

Hes an upgraded version of barrett lmao
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whatever man they look the same barret just has a shorter skull

 

[pfl]

whatever man they look the same barret just has a shorter skull

Barretts face is compressed

 

[returnofthecutecel]

Yeah, this is clearly your average Joe, the kind of guy I run into multiple times a day

I got MTN rating and MTN is above avg.

 

[returnofthecutecel]

Barretts face is compressed

Short midface is ideal

 

[Zenis]

Barretts face is compressed

I find it asthetic but I know most don’t, just my opinion.

Looks like a highschool bully

 

[pfl]

Short midface is ideal

How
It looks terrible

 

[kenibba]

dude shut the fuck up hes at the very least htn in this pic. mtn means MID tier normie for fucks sake nigger.

 

[NoaA99]

Because people here are retarted

Got thirsted over by millions of women a decade ago, yet idiots here believe he’s objectively MTN-HTN

 

[Zenis]

Got thirsted over by millions of women a decade ago, yet idiots here believe he’s objectively MTN-HTN

Idiots here worship alien looking niggas what do you expect

 

[NoaA99]

I got MTN rating and MTN is above avg.

Average is above average basically?

 

[zemult]

Short midface is ideal

1:1 normal midface is ideal

Short and long is subhuman

 

[zemult]

Average is above average basically?

According to greycels it is now

It's 80th percentile

Top 20% of men

Get with the times unc!

 

[NoaA99]

Short midface is ideal

Only, when it’s a result of low-set brows, alongside sufficient IPD.
You can have a short mid-face as a result of vertically insufficient maxilla development, and hence look like a child.

 

[isis_Bleach]

if hes mtn we’re all fucking trucels

 

[zemult]

Only, when it’s a result of low-set brows, alongside sufficient IPD.
You can have a short mid-face as a result of vertically insufficient maxilla development, and hence look like a child.

I have 1.9 fwhr but 1.07 midface in my best pictures

Over tbh short faced subhuman

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Low iq question

 

[NoaA99]

I have 1.9 fwhr but 1.07 midface in my best pictures

Over tbh short faced subhuman

Not far from ideal values.

Mine is giga-compact, but I am a skeletal class 3, with stunted jaw development.
Short, and broad faces look like shit unfortunately.

 

[Klasik616]

This is not Chico's skull it's morphed by face app

 

[zemult]

Not far from ideal values.

Mine is giga-compact, but I am a skeletal class 3, with stunted jaw development.
Short, and broad faces look like shit unfortunately.

Skeletal class 3 with stunted jaw development, midface hypoplasia I'm assuming? Pretty sure you mentioned it to me before. I'm not very educated on which procedures could help to treat that.

With my case I'm pretty sure my maxilla is vertically grown enough, considering the 117 gonial angle, visible gums in smile, and ideal FWHR (in back camera pictures 6 feet away). But MFR sucks. It's 1.07 in the most ideal scenarios, I suspect it's to do with the placement of my philtrum paired with my less than ideal ICD. ESR is fine but ICD is like 1.1x or something like that.

Regardless gonna look into checking it out via scans, I might have a very slight overbite but I've read online that you're supposed to have one.

 

[NoaA99]

Skeletal class 3 with stunted jaw development, midface hypoplasia I'm assuming? Pretty sure you mentioned it to me before. I'm not very educated on which procedures could help to treat that.

With my case I'm pretty sure my maxilla is vertically grown enough, considering the 115 gonial angle, visible gums in smile, and ideal FWHR (in back camera pictures 6 feet away). But MFR sucks. It's 1.07 in the most ideal scenarios, I suspect it's to do with the placement of my philtrum paired with my less than ideal ICD. ESR is fine but ICD is like 1.1x or something like that.

Regardless gonna look into checking it out via scans, I might have a very slight overbite but I've read online that you're supposed to have one.

Yes exactly. I’m almost finished with Invisalign in preparation for DJS, but I’m a bit off-topic at the moment. I need to refresh my knowledge to ensure an acceptable outcome - ideally with some mid-face lengthening. There are a few options for that.

Right now, my lower teeth nearly overlap the uppers, and the jaw discrepancy led to a progressively worsening midline deviation. I also have a canted Maxilla, as well as severe TMJ with partial cartilage resorption- primarily on the left side.

It’s not terrible, though. A wider IPD is preferable, and 1.1 ICD is still far better than the closer-set extreme. I suppose your philtrum is relatively short? Perhaps a slight CW rotation could help elongate the mid-face and balance your IPD.

My FWHR is around 2.09-2.10, which looks comical since my zygos are extremely laterally projected, giving me a low ESR and an overly compact skull. It doesn’t help that my neurocranium and temple region are also too broad

 

[zemult]

Yes exactly. I’m almost finished with Invisalign in preparation for DJS, but I’m a bit off-topic at the moment. I need to refresh my knowledge to ensure an acceptable outcome - ideally with some mid-face lengthening. There are a few options for that.

Right now, my lower teeth nearly overlap the uppers, and the jaw discrepancy led to a progressively worsening midline deviation. I also have a canted Maxilla, as well as severe TMJ with partial cartilage resorption- primarily on the left side.

It’s not terrible, though. A wider IPD is preferable, and 1.1 ICD is still far better than the closer-set extreme. I suppose your philtrum is relatively short? Perhaps a slight CW rotation could help elongate the mid-face and balance your IPD.

My FWHR is around 2.09-2.10, which looks comical since my zygos are extremely laterally projected, giving me a low ESR and an overly compact skull. It doesn’t help that my neurocranium and temple region are also too broad

Nice, I wish you the best with the DJS you're preparing for. Usually those with shorter midfaces have a massive ascension via Bimax, but these are the Class 2 ones as I'm not too familiar with the Hypoplasia cases. Do you have any ETA for when the procedure may happen? And if you're comfortable sharing what exactly is planned to resolve hypoplasia? Quite curious because I only know about how you treat a class 2.

Yeah I was considering a CW rotation for myself, but my philtrum is actually normally long (chin to philtrum is normal, lower third height is normal, also just visibly normal). It's either the weird higher-end ICD, or something else. I'll see after I get scans I suppose

 

[NoaA99]

Nice, I wish you the best with the DJS you're preparing for. Usually those with shorter midfaces have a massive ascension via Bimax, but these are the Class 2 ones as I'm not too familiar with the Hypoplasia cases. Do you have any ETA for when the procedure may happen? And if you're comfortable sharing what exactly is planned to resolve hypoplasia? Quite curious because I only know about how you treat a class 2.

Yeah I was considering a CW rotation for myself, but my philtrum is actually normally long (chin to philtrum is normal, lower third height is normal, also just visibly normal). It's either the weird higher-end ICD, or something else. I'll see after I get scans I suppose

Thank you. Personally, I don’t think the changes will be too dramatic. My face should become slightly more symmetrical again (in the lower third region), and my midface will gain some volume. However, the upper maxilla area will most likely remain the same, so I’ll likely still have a bit of that tired look with perm dark circles.

I haven’t scheduled anything yet, there are still a few things I need to sort out beforehand. But I’d estimate that the surgery could take place early next year.

My plans aren’t concrete because I haven’t fully decided on a surgeon yet, though I’ve already had a few consultations. One surgeon suggested DJS with a high-cut Le Fort I, but she refused my request for malar or infraorbital implants. Her plan was to move both the mandible and maxilla forward, the mandible only slightly, and the maxilla by about 7mm+, depending on the mandible movement. She also mentioned correcting the canted maxilla, though she wasn’t specific in how to do that.

Another surgeon proposed just a Le Fort I with a slight clockwise rotation.

And I definitely need a rhino in the process. Maxilla retrusion does make the nose appear visually prominent, and it’s paired with a deviated septum, bulbousness and an asymmetrical nose shape.
Surgery will widen it even more in the tip region.

I’ll be meeting with more surgeons in the near future, as I’m not convinced by any plan so far.
Of course, I want to ease the severe TMJ first and foremost, but I obviously want to ensure a good visual outcome as well.

That’s strange. Does it even look noticeably compact then? Do you have any form of malocclusion?

 

[zemult]

Thank you. Personally, I don’t think the changes will be too dramatic. My face should become slightly more symmetrical again (in the lower third region), and my midface will gain some volume. However, the upper maxilla area will most likely remain the same, so I’ll likely still have a bit of that tired look with perm dark circles.

I haven’t scheduled anything yet, there are still a few things I need to sort out beforehand. But I’d estimate that the surgery could take place early next year.

My plans aren’t concrete because I haven’t fully decided on a surgeon yet, though I’ve already had a few consultations. One surgeon suggested DJS with a high-cut Le Fort I, but she refused my request for malar or infraorbital implants. Her plan was to move both the mandible and maxilla forward, the mandible only slightly, and the maxilla by about 7mm+, depending on the mandible movement. She also mentioned correcting the canted maxilla, though she wasn’t specific in how to do that.

Another surgeon proposed just a Le Fort I with a slight clockwise rotation.

And I definitely need a rhino in the process. Maxilla retrusion does make the nose appear visually prominent, and it’s paired with a deviated septum, bulbousness and an asymmetrical nose shape.
Surgery will widen it even more in the tip region.

I’ll be meeting with more surgeons in the near future, as I’m not convinced by any plan so far.
Of course, I want to ease the severe TMJ first and foremost, but I obviously want to ensure a good visual outcome as well.

That’s strange. Does it even look noticeably compact then? Do you have any form of malocclusion?

It should go well in the end, you're smarter than most users on here and clearly are making steps toward hardmaxxing which already puts you above most users.

It looks noticeably compact sometimes, and I may have a slight overbite like previously mentioned. But that's normal I'm pretty sure. I'll check if I have a malocclusion whenever I get scans done. I've never had trouble eating so

 

[NoaA99]

It should go well in the end, you're smarter than most users on here and clearly are making steps toward hardmaxxing which already puts you above most users.

It looks noticeably compact sometimes, and I may have a slight overbite like previously mentioned. But that's normal I'm pretty sure. I'll check if I have a malocclusion whenever I get scans done. I've never had trouble eating so

Yeah, let’s hope so. I’ll definitely take every precaution I can beforehand. I want to measure potential post-op facial values, though you obviously can’t predict those changes with full accuracy.
Still, as I mentioned, just being able to live without constant facial or neck pain, and hopefully eat without pain, would already be a huge relief. Might as well still get every possible benefit of course.

I see, do you already have an appointment scheduled?

 

[GhostBoySwag]

Found this Pic of him and here looks high mtn tbh

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Nope still a chad in my eyes all day

 

[zemult]

Yeah, let’s hope so. I’ll definitely take every precaution I can beforehand. I want to measure potential post-op facial values, though you obviously can’t predict those changes with full accuracy.
Still, as I mentioned, just being able to live without constant facial or neck pain, and hopefully eat without pain, would already be a huge relief. Might as well still get every possible benefit of course.

I see, do you already have an appointment scheduled?

Not as of yet, still saving up money to prepare for any procedure that I will need