Is confidence/charisma genetic?

[lilhorizontal32]

cant seem to understand how there are some ugly guys who are very charismatic, and chads like O'pry who come of as awkward and not very charming, despite getting an INSANE amount of positive feedback and validation from when they were young

also there have been numerous anecdotes on this forum of shy, unconfident Chads that people know, which doesnt make sense as these guys have much more of a reason to be confident than a guy who is much worse looking than him

thoughts?

 

[R@m@]

confidence comes either from being validated or being detached

 

[Biiyo03]

Cant relate cuz im not a chad

 

[lilhorizontal32]

confidence comes either from being validated or being detached

yes but there are genetic components to it.

sociopathy is mainly a genetic condition, and sociopaths are known for being very charismatic, due to mainly their abnormal amygdalas, making them naturally low inhib

read this. a guy temporarily changes his brain so that it becomes similar to that of a psychopath's, and he feels as if he has had a six pack of beer. imagine constantly being in a state like this, and how much easier socialising would be:

3 Things Psychopaths Can Teach You About Being A Happier Person - Barking Up The Wrong Tree

Is there anything good to learn from psychopaths? Yes. Oxford researcher Kevin Dutton explains -- and talks about what it's like to be a psychopath.

www.bakadesuyo.com

 

[jackieboy21]

cant seem to understand how there are some ugly guys who are very charismatic, and chads like O'pry who come of as awkward and not very charming, despite getting an INSANE amount of positive feedback and validation from when they were young

also there have been numerous anecdotes on this forum of shy, unconfident Chads that people know, which doesnt make sense as these guys have much more of a reason to be confident than a guy who is much worse looking than him

thoughts?

I’ve got a mate who’s quite ugly , only thing that saves him is north atlantid colouring, but anyways he has extreme confidence all the time, gets rejected a lot by girls but still seems to keep going forward and shooting his shot

 

[lilhorizontal32]

I’ve got a mate who’s quite ugly , only thing that saves him is north atlantid colouring, but anyways he has extreme confidence all the time, gets rejected a lot by girls but still seems to keep going forward and shooting his shot

is he confident just with women or with people in general?

and its crazy how some people can just keep going even despite so much rejection

 

[Deleted member 13994]

partially genetic. The rest is experience and your mind

 

[jackieboy21]

is he confident just with women or with people in general?

and its crazy how some people can just keep going even despite so much rejection

Confident with anyone, he’ll chat to anyone and try and get his way, it works sometimes but people can see past it

 

[R@m@]

yes but there are genetic components to it.

sociopathy is mainly a genetic condition, and sociopaths are known for being very charismatic, due to mainly their abnormal amygdalas, making them naturally low inhib

read this. a guy temporarily changes his brain so that it becomes similar to that of a psychopath's, and he feels as if he has had a six pack of beer. imagine constantly being in a state like this, and how much easier socialising would be:

3 Things Psychopaths Can Teach You About Being A Happier Person - Barking Up The Wrong Tree

Is there anything good to learn from psychopaths? Yes. Oxford researcher Kevin Dutton explains -- and talks about what it's like to be a psychopath.

www.bakadesuyo.com

but when you are a sociopath/psychopath you dont feel the need to socialize because you feel alone and need someone to emphatize and having good times its just for manipulation, and yes they are usually confident/low inhib due to lack of amygdala activity, anxiety cant kick in

 

[lilhorizontal32]

but when you are a sociopath/psychopath you dont feel the need to socialize because you feel alone and need someone to emphatize and having good times its just for manipulation, and yes they are usually confident/low inhib due to lack of amygdala activity, anxiety cant kick in

not true. many sociopaths are top lawyers, bankers, CEOs

all of these guys have large social networks and are constantly interacting with people, whether it is for business purposes or socially

 

[lilhorizontal32]

but when you are a sociopath/psychopath you dont feel the need to socialize because you feel alone and need someone to emphatize and having good times its just for manipulation, and yes they are usually confident/low inhib due to lack of amygdala activity, anxiety cant kick in

and you dont have to be a full sociopath to reap the rewards of it.

I'm thinking that someone can essentially be born with low-level sociopathy, thus getting all of the low inhib benefits of sociopathy without much of the negatives, including the inability to empathise with others and a tendency towards destructive behaviours

 

[n0rthface]

yes but there are genetic components to it.

sociopathy is mainly a genetic condition, and sociopaths are known for being very charismatic, due to mainly their abnormal amygdalas, making them naturally low inhib

read this. a guy temporarily changes his brain so that it becomes similar to that of a psychopath's, and he feels as if he has had a six pack of beer. imagine constantly being in a state like this, and how much easier socialising would be:

3 Things Psychopaths Can Teach You About Being A Happier Person - Barking Up The Wrong Tree

Is there anything good to learn from psychopaths? Yes. Oxford researcher Kevin Dutton explains -- and talks about what it's like to be a psychopath.

www.bakadesuyo.com

Sociopathy is caused by childhood abuse, psychopathy is genetic.

Sociopath = low IQ impulsive criminal
Psychopath = higher IQ CEO social predator

 

[hebbewem]

Everything has a genric component

 

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“Transcranial magnetic stimulation” (TMS) is when scientists apply a powerful magnet to a part of your brain. They don’t need to open your head to do it, either. It’s similar to an MRI. With TMS they can “turn down” the electrical signals in particular parts of your brain with powerful results. Target the amygdala and other specific areas and you can temporarily shut off empathy and fear, giving you a “psychopath makeover.”

I need a custom hat that has this TMS thing inside

 

[chadison]

partially genetic. The rest is experience and your mind

The correct answer OP. If I had to guess (I'm not a biologist/geneticist) I would say it's half genetic, half affirmations/experience by/with others in life.

 

[chadison]

but when you are a sociopath/psychopath you dont feel the need to socialize because you feel alone and need someone to emphatize and having good times its just for manipulation, and yes they are usually confident/low inhib due to lack of amygdala activity, anxiety cant kick in

The amygdala and hypothalamus are the two main factors that influence the genetic percentage attributable to confidence. Yes.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

cant seem to understand how there are some ugly guys who are very charismatic, and chads like O'pry who come of as awkward and not very charming, despite getting an INSANE amount of positive feedback and validation from when they were young

also there have been numerous anecdotes on this forum of shy, unconfident Chads that people know, which doesnt make sense as these guys have much more of a reason to be confident than a guy who is much worse looking than him

thoughts?

No.

I grew up in the upper middle class, but I've got more connections to working class people in the past few years. Working class people have a lot more charisma: They're funny, fun people to be around, and the way the speak is more effective, in a specific kind of way (being more incisive, "getting to the point" when it comes to real life matters). The reason is that charisma is a skill that you use to get what you want. It's a skill you practice when you have to struggle to succeed in life. There is no one on this planet less charismatic than upper middle class American women. They're miserable to be around, and subconsciously signal irritation and dissatisfaction on a constant basis. Even the way they talk (uptalk and vocal fry) is annoying.

 

[Slob]

Confidence comes from your collarbone and long bones. Charisma is stored in your mandible and maxilla.

 

[lilhorizontal32]

No.

I grew up in the upper middle class, but I've got more connections to working class people in the past few years. Working class people have a lot more charisma: They're funny, fun people to be around, and the way the speak is more effective, in a specific kind of way (being more incisive, "getting to the point" when it comes to real life matters). The reason is that charisma is a skill that you use to get what you want. It's a skill you practice when you have to struggle to succeed in life. There is no one on this planet less charismatic than upper middle class American women. They're miserable to be around, and subconsciously signal irritation and dissatisfaction on a constant basis. Even the way they talk (uptalk and vocal fry) is annoying.

interesting you say that. I've met lots of people from all different social classes and there doesn't seem to be a particularly strong correlation between charisma and wealth. if anything, the upper middle class people that I've met have been more charismatic

however, in general I would say that good looking people are definitely more social skilled and charming. most likely a combination of the halo effect and positive reinforcement from when they were young

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Sociopathy is caused by childhood abuse, psychopathy is genetic.

Sociopath = low IQ impulsive criminal
Psychopath = higher IQ CEO social predator

Retards on reddit say psychopaths have lower iq scores because criminals are low iq

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Bump

 

[jake_okok]

I think a bit but social skills r the best becoz you can build on them easily, compared to looksmaxxing
You can take a really quiet kid and make him very charismatic

Check out places like Liverpool/cities in England or Ireland, 'gift of the gab' is not genetic it's more environmental. when you are younger it's cultural to throw around insults and quips so you learn to be very on your feet and that translates into being witty when you're older

Most of it is just getting over the social anxiety/caring what people think tho, once u are confident you get out of your shell and become more attractive personality wise

A good way of doing this is just saying hi to people, shaking hands, etc. makes you feel more confident. places you should do this: gym, school, anywhere you see the same people often