is coping a sign of low iq?

[subhuman37]

thinking abt it, coping may be a sign of low iq, if you are actively denying what’s true and creating false realities to make yourself feel better, it makes you stay at the same place if not worse so how would you get better at anything? the smartest people in the world earned that title because they kept on searching for more information and never thought it was enough, curiosity is what led to humans evolution so doing the opposite technically is technically devolving your brain and turn you into a mindless animal

 

[Deleted member 441405]

Everyone copes, even those who you consider intelligent.

 

[subhuman37]

you’re right to a certain extent, most people cope even the greats wheter it comes to athletes actors billionaires whatever, but the reason their great is because most of the time they were honest with themselves and realize they were capable of more and worked harder in order to reach their goal

 

[them streets b cold]

some people are just beat down so badly by life, their brain becomes distorted, soul extracted, cant think anymore. consider urself lucky and live a meaningful life

 

[subhuman37]

some people are just beat down so badly by life, their brain becomes distorted, soul extracted, cant think anymore. consider urself lucky and live a meaningful life

yea fair enough, childhood trauma is severely under looked, people’s brain are so fucked from past events that it changes their way of thinking, it’s so sad, it happened to even me, i coped for so long but it took me years to realize what actually works and what doesn’t. but yes we should live a meaningful life, but also one shouldn’t think normal it’s enough, i believe every human should strive for greatness even if that isn’t their destiny

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

Depends on the type of cope

 

[subhuman37]

Depends on the type of cope

i’m talking about the ones like how fat bitches act as if their weight is normal and think they deserve male attention, or how normies deny the bp even though they always see a good looking tall guy with their crush

 

[buddhistking]

I mean Buddhism is essentially the opposite of coping and the Buddha was the highest IQ man of all time

 

[ICL]

No you fucking idiot.

Cognitive dissonance is human nature, if you consider that low IQ consider yourself as well.

 

[ICL]

you’re right to a certain extent, most people cope even the greats wheter it comes to athletes actors billionaires whatever, but the reason their great is because most of the time they were honest with themselves and realize they were capable of more and worked harder in order to reach their goal

Neither billionaires nor actors are smart

Being honest with yourself and hard work serve 0 purpose

 

[subhuman37]

Neither billionaires nor actors are smart

Being honest with yourself and hard work serve 0 purpose

yes dude the fat whore who lies to herself that she’s skinny will be anything in life you’re right hard working doesn’t get you shit but how tf is being honest with yourself not, if a nigga is a fucking subhuman and he keeps coping with shit they see on tik tok how will they ever ascend if that’s their goal, that’s clearly a sign of low iq

 

[subhuman37]

No you fucking idiot.

Cognitive dissonance is human nature, if you consider that low IQ consider yourself as well.

murder is part of human nature as well, so is every sin and negative emotion as well, that doesn’t make it right stupid faggot, if i murder somebody because that’s part of human nature and you say i’m a bad human would that make you stupid? exactly

 

[ICL]

murder,rape is part of human nature as well, so is every sin and negative emotion as well, that doesn’t make it right stupid faggot, if i murder somebody because that’s part of human nature and you say i’m a bad human would that make you stupid? exactly

Shit absurdity logic and false analogy

Neither is murder nor rape part of human nature and they aren't done regularly unlike cognitive dissonance lol at you.

Murder and rape also do not define IQ, so you're just extra intellectually disabled

yes dude the fat whore who lies to herself that she’s skinny will be anything in life you’re right hard working doesn’t get you shit but how tf is being honest with yourself not, if a nigga is a fucking subhuman and he keeps coping with shit they see on tik tok how will they ever ascend if that’s their goal, that’s clearly a sign of low iq

If you were subhuman, you wouldn't accept that you are one.


Simple.


Cognitive dissonance


If literally everyone does it, you cannot reasonably call it a marker of low IQ without also calling the entire human species low IQ which makes the insult meaningless.

 

[kiwiicel]

Yes and no,putting it in such black and white terms is very reductive.I think it all depends on the level of cope and what the person has been presented with.I think when looking at cope not only do you have to look at the iq of a person but also the emotional and mental fortitude of the person.A person with a very high iq can fully read and comprehend and to some extent in their brains believe that something is true but repress it due to a weak emotional and mental fortitude not allowing them to fully want to accept that truth.

We see this not only in intelligent people but in people that you might call plain stupid aswell.If you have ever seen any amount of real catfish shows or have had any experience with people being catfished there are a few common factors that we can observe in some of the cases.It's plainly obvious that in alot of cases not only do they basically know they are being scammed but despite that they keep doing it.In alot of cases even after being shown the truth and acknowledging that they are being scammed they decide to keep living a harmful lie.Why is this? This is because despite them obviously having the capability of comprehending what is going on,they emotionally rely so much on this falsehood that their brains simply won't allow their rational brains to actually fully process or actually rationally act on what they know is the actual truth,so they cope.

If you scale this up to people with higher iq they aren't going to be scammed because their higher iq will not allow them to.A certain amount of high iq can infact make up for a lack of emotional/mental fortitude but only to a certain degree.If a relatively high iq individual is presented with something that shatters their reality and breaks their sense of comfort it is possible that they will act irrationally too.

When applied to the BP what we see is people with high iq's who when learning about the bp (unlike alot of low iq individuals we see in this same forum,no offense to anyway in particular),actually fully understand every single implication about how truly brutal,depressing,nihilistic and shattering it would be for their pre conceived notions and beliefs about human nature.So many of them will simply deny and start looking for any way to debunk it,when they can't find any they will either believe in it and become somewhat depressed for a period or their low mental fortitude will simply not allow them and they will believe any countless excuses as to why it isn't true.

You could be a mathematical genius,a musical genius,the smartest scientist that's ever lives,but the truth is that humans are deeply deeply inclined to reject truths that go against the beliefs they hold near and dear,and especially those that shatter the comfort and happiness they hold in many aspects of the world.

 

[subhuman37]

Shit absurdity logic and false analogy

Neither is murder nor rape part of human nature and they aren't done regularly unlike cognitive dissonance lol at you.

Murder and rape also do not define IQ, so you're just extra intellectually disabled

If you were subhuman, you wouldn't accept that you are one.


Simple.


Cognitive dissonance


If literally everyone does it, you cannot reasonably call it a marker of low IQ without also calling the entire human species low IQ which makes the insult meaningless.

okay whatever, that cognitive dissonance shit is true yea, every human has that, my main point was that we should try to supress it and realize what’s true and how we should get rid of our flaws as best as we can, i called it low iq to the ones who mainly partake in and suffer from it, but you’re right every human copes and that’s human nature

 

[subhuman37]

Yes and no,putting it in such black and white terms is very reductive.I think it all depends on the level of cope and what the person has been presented with.I think when looking at cope not only do you have to look at the iq of a person but also the emotional and mental fortitude of the person.A person with a very high iq can fully read and comprehend and to some extent in their brains believe that something is true but repress it due to a weak emotional and mental fortitude not allowing them to fully want to accept that truth.

We see this not only in intelligent people but in people that you might call plain stupid aswell.If you have ever seen any amount of real catfish shows or have had any experience with people being catfished there are a few common factors that we can observe in some of the cases.It's plainly obvious that in alot of cases not only do they basically know they are being scammed but despite that they keep doing it.In alot of cases even after being shown the truth and acknowledging that they are being scammed they decide to keep living a harmful lie.Why is this? This is because despite them obviously having the capability of comprehending what is going on,they emotionally rely so much on this falsehood that their brains simply won't allow their rational brains to actually fully process or actually rationally act on what they know is the actual truth,so they cope.

If you scale this up to people with higher iq they aren't going to be scammed because their higher iq will not allow them to.A certain amount of high iq can infact make up for a lack of emotional/mental fortitude but only to a certain degree.If a relatively high iq individual is presented with something that shatters their reality and breaks their sense of comfort it is possible that they will act irrationally too.

When applied to the BP what we see is people with high iq's who when learning about the bp (unlike alot of low iq individuals we see in this same forum,no offense to anyway in particular),actually fully understand every single implication about how truly brutal,depressing,nihilistic and shattering it would be for their pre conceived notions and beliefs about human nature.So many of them will simply deny and start looking for any way to debunk it,when they can't find any they will either believe in it and become somewhat depressed for a period or their low mental fortitude will simply not allow them and they will believe any countless excuses as to why it isn't true.

You could be a mathematical genius,a musical genius,the smartest scientist that's ever lives,but the truth is that humans are deeply deeply inclined to reject truths that go against the beliefs they hold near and dear,and especially those that shatter the comfort and happiness they hold in many aspects of the world.

yea i get what you mean, there’s never a a definitive answer when it comes to stuff like this, there’s always different perspectives, i should’ve worded it better, by coping being low iq i mean the blatant ones, like let’s say someone who stinks, the easy solution is to shower buy a better deodorant and wear fresh clothes,but instead the said person makes a lot of excuses and doesn’t change that which affects people by making them uncomfortable, however other levels of cope like someone who’s short and can do nothing about it, it’s fine for them to cope, it’s not their fault, they were unfortunately born with those genetic determination the only thing they can do is work in the different areas, it’s not just this either there’s different instances when cope isn’t bad and infact is positive for people, you made a great argument i’ll give you that and i admit that my statement is very flawed and superficial

 

[ICL]

we should try to supress it and realize what’s true and how we should get rid of our flaws as best as we can

Impractical, suppression is weak and has a marginal effect

i called it low iq to the ones who mainly partake in and suffer from it,

so the whole world;

You realize you just suffered through cognitive dissonance? You first were aggressive and opposing, now you're reserved and agreeing.

Do you allow me to call you Low IQ?

 

[subhuman37]

Impractical, suppression is weak and has a marginal effect

so the whole world;

You realize you just suffered through cognitive dissonance? You first were aggressive and opposing, now you're reserved and agreeing.

Do you allow me to call you Low IQ?

ngl im very stressed at work rn i’m sorry if i came off aggressive, after reading it with much thought i realized i was the one in the wrong, if you want to call me low iq go for it, it’s your opinion me forcing you to think otherwise would be very low iq of me

 

[kiwiicel]

yea i get what you mean, there’s never a a definitive answer when it comes to stuff like this, there’s always different perspectives, i should’ve worded it better, by coping being low iq i mean the blatant ones, like let’s say someone who stinks, the easy solution is to shower buy a better deodorant and wear fresh clothes,but instead the said person makes a lot of excuses and doesn’t change that which affects people by making them uncomfortable, however other levels of cope like someone who’s short and can do nothing about it, it’s fine for them to cope, it’s not their fault, they were unfortunately born with those genetic determination the only thing they can do is work in the different areas, it’s not just this either there’s different instances when cope isn’t bad and infact is positive for people, you made a great argument i’ll give you that and i admit that my statement is very flawed and superficial

I think it shows alot of character to apologize,and yes,i do think most cases of blatant coping are low iq and low emotional fortitude.I think the main issue is what you define as cope.I don't think coping is ever good.It always shows a level of mental weakness and despite it being inherently part of human nature everyone should try to their best to not indulge in it.Someone short doesn't have the right to cope if coping means fooling themselves into thinking women won't care or that it won't affect their lives.A high iq short person would accept what their conditions in life are and make the best of it.So to a certain extent i do get what you are trying to say,maybe it was just a question with difficult phrasing and you were somewhat confrontative answering others in the thread

 

[kiwiicel]

No you fucking idiot.

Cognitive dissonance is human nature, if you consider that low IQ consider yourself as well.

To be fair you also could have been less rude,his position is reasonable.Blatant coping is in many cases a case of both low iq with a very weak emotional intelligence.Just because it's human nature doesn't mean some don't indulge in it to a degree that's unreasonable.We all to a degree cope,but the truth is most people live in a lie,and of those some take it to the next level and dilude themselves much further.No need to call him a fucking idiot for his opinion

 

[subhuman37]

i appreciate the compliment, the reason why i got so emotional was because i was one who would cope a lot as well, during my early teenage years i was skinny fat and wasn’t the best looking due to my high body fat and acne, and for years instead of putting in work i made false hopes and my brain and thought everything would magically get better, but now that i’m older i realized how stupid of me that was and how not only did ruin my life back then but i also stunted my potential and could’ve been better in any aspect you can point out, but yea it was an instance of bad phrasing, i made that yesterday at night and didn’t word my argument the best, now that it’s the next day i realized how dumb i could’ve sounded and should’ve came off more mature to a serious topic of this magnitude

 

[Jeiko]

DNR everything except the title, i think its a sign of neurotypical

 

[kiwiicel]

i appreciate the compliment, the reason why i got so emotional was because i was one who would cope a lot as well, during my early teenage years i was skinny fat and wasn’t the best looking due to my high body fat and acne, and for years instead of putting in work i made false hopes and my brain and thought everything would magically get better, but now that i’m older i realized how stupid of me that was and how not only did ruin my life back then but i also stunted my potential and could’ve been better in any aspect you can point out, but yea it was an instance of bad phrasing, i made that yesterday at night and didn’t word my argument the best, now that it’s the next day i realized how dumb i could’ve sounded and should’ve came off more mature to a serious topic of this magnitude

It's ok,everyone makes mistakes and i believe the person who responded to you while making fair points was overly rude too.Don't beat yourself up.I know exactly how you feel,we all cope,especially when we're younger.The world is an extremely dark place especially after you fully take and understand the BP and other things.I really hope the best for you and the other person responding in the thread.

 

[ICL]

To be fair you also could have been less rude,his position is reasonable.Blatant coping is in many cases a case of both low iq with a very weak emotional intelligence.Just because it's human nature doesn't mean some don't indulge in it to a degree that's unreasonable.We all to a degree cope,but the truth is most people live in a lie,and of those some take it to the next level and dilude themselves much further.No need to call him a fucking idiot for his opinion

This forum is an uncensored forum for a reason. If they're gonna hold a grudge against me because I insulted them, so be it, I don't mind.

He asks if coping is low IQ. Neither is it low IQ nor is it a sign. It's a form of cognitive dissonance which we just saw with him, being cognitively dissonant.

ut the truth is most people live in a lie,

Water.

Though, in the sense where this forum traditionally believes what coping is, then saying "cope" doesn't mean anything. Additionally, it's clearly interpreted in such manner, no need for an equivocation fallacy

 

[subhuman37]

thank you bro i hope the best for you as well, you seem like a nice dude who looks at the things from multiple perspectives rather than being ignorant, that’s a good characteristic

 

[kiwiicel]

This forum is an uncensored forum for a reason. If they're gonna hold a grudge against me because I insulted them, so be it, I don't mind.

He asks if coping is low IQ. Neither is it low IQ nor is it a sign. It's a form of cognitive dissonance which we just saw with him, being cognitively dissonant.

Water.

Though, in the sense where this forum traditionally believes what coping is, then saying "cope" doesn't mean anything. Additionally, it's clearly interpreted in such manner, no need for an equivocation fallacy

Just because the forum is uncensored doesn't mean you have to insult this guy for no reason,if he was being a dick then i'd be for it since i don't believe in any form of censorship law or regulation,i just don't believe it's warranted.Extreme cope aka being delusional is a sign of low emotional intelligence unless a person has a diagnosed mental health condition that causes them to suffer from delusions.If a person believes in something that contradicts all logic despite them being aware it does then yes,it's a sign of not only low iq but low emotional intelligence.

Most people do live in a lie,if you ask the average man what they think they'd say they believe that what women love is personality,they even believe that what they love is personality.They will believe that confidence and "game" can make women more attracted to them and that women are actually truly attracted to money and status and won't only use them for it and cheat on them with a more attractive man.They believe in true love for sub5 men,a big part of them either don't know about hypergamy or deny it and alot of them say and believe that "it's inside what matters".If we include women in the mix of people (which i do) then the overwhelming amount of people live in pretty much a delusion about a pretty large part of how life works.Women are incapable of admitting to themselves or others facts about the BP they themselves know because it's very hard for someone to process these things,especially because your brain will pretty much never make yourself to be the bad guy.

I don't want antagonize you,i just don't agree with your points,i'm not someone who has been in the forums their whole life and has never had any experience.Before becoming a shut in i had 2 partners and i observed alot of things that solidified and started my introduction to BP theory.

 

[ICL]

If a person believes in something that contradicts all logic despite them being aware it does then yes,it's a sign of not only low iq but low emotional intelligence.

Water.

Of course I know exceptions exist; there is no point in going to extremes as it's water that there are certain groids that cope severely and are effectively delusional. However, I don't believe this was the message OP was delivering, especially by the fact that he was against cognitive dissonance on its own as well.

Just because the forum is uncensored doesn't mean you have to insult this guy for no reason,if he was being a dick then i'd be for it since i don't believe in any form of censorship law or regulation,i just don't believe it's warranted.E

Ironic, I experienced cognitive dissonance now that I realize there was no point in being rude. Regret and contradiction is human.

Most people do live in a lie,if you ask the average man what they think they'd say they believe that what women love is personality,they even believe that what they love is personality.They will believe that confidence and "game" can make women more attracted to them and that women are actually truly attracted to money and status and won't only use them for it and cheat on them with a more attractive man.They believe in true love for sub5 men,a big part of them either don't know about hypergamy or deny it and alot of them say and believe that "it's inside what matters".If we include women in the mix of people (which i do) then the overwhelming amount of people live in pretty much a delusion about a pretty large part of how life works.Women are incapable of admitting to themselves or others facts about the BP they themselves know because it's very hard for someone to process these things,especially because your brain will pretty much never make yourself to be the bad guy.

I don't have much against or supportive of this so yea, fair enough.

I don't want antagonize you,i just don't agree with your points,i'm not someone who has been in the forums their whole life and has never had any experience.Before becoming a shut in i had 2 partners and i observed alot of things that solidified and started my introduction to BP theory.

I don't know what to do with this either, I don't need an introduction of you bro.

 

[kiwiicel]

Water.

Of course I know exceptions exist; there is no point in going to extremes as it's water that there are certain groids that cope severely and are effectively delusional. However, I don't believe this was the message OP was delivering, especially by the fact that he was against cognitive dissonance on its own as well.

Ironic, I experienced cognitive dissonance now that I realize there was no point in being rude. Regret and contradiction is human.

I don't have much against or supportive of this so yea, fair enough.

I don't know what to do with this either, I don't need an introduction of you bro.

Idk why i interpreted "water" as you telling me to go outside,thats why i included the last paragraph.Still i'm glad we could find some middle around on some stuff

 

[kiwiicel]

Idk why i interpreted "water" as you telling me to go outside,thats why i included the last paragraph.Still i'm glad we could find some middle around on some stuff

Ground*

 

[ICL]

Idk why i interpreted "water" as you telling me to go outside,thats why i included the last paragraph.Still i'm glad we could find some middle around on some stuff

Ah right then

Since water means something obvious usually