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A lot of people call trading cope, some say it’s op. Here’s a breakdown where we can decide if it’s really cope or not
what are the real statistics?
It’s not 99% of traders lose, it’s deeper than that
Statistically
74% of people who try trading are fast losers who treat it like a casino and lose most of their account within weeks or months and step away permanently from trading
23% of people were persistent persistent and tried their hardest for a long period of time but still ended up quitting with a loss
(So overall 97% quit with a loss, making a profitable trader 1 in 30)
1.9% manage to make a lil money on the side, often below minimum wage but not enough to replace a job, the lower half mostly just break even.
0.6% make enough money to replace their job and just trade full time
0.49% get comfortably wealth and make up to what’s considered a professional salary
And 0.01% actually get stinking rich
Why?
Trading is just gambling in a sense because it’s the same concept, bet on an outcome that hasn’t been determined yet.
But unlike total randomness, you can use certain tools or concepts and theories to give yourself an edge.
Those 97% who fail, most of them don’t have a real strategy, most of them give up too soon, most of them get emotional, most of them revenge trade, most of them don’t stick to their rules, most of them get greedy, most of them don’t have proper risk management.
It’s not a get rich quick scheme but a job, it requires the same amount of attention and smart approach and dedication as one.
The money math:
a lot of traders trade an instrument called nq
Which is 100 of the biggest tech companies in the us in a index averaging out at a price of abt 30,000 usd
Nq frequently makes 100-200 dollar price moves daily.
The way you make money is based on points, and 1 dollar of price movement is 1point
So if it goes down to 29,999 from 30,000
That’s 1 point down
If it goes up to 30,001 from 30,000 that’s 1 point up
You have an micro nq contract which gives you or takes 2 dollars per point moved
And e-mini nq which gives you or takes 20 dollars per point moved
Once you open the position
So if you catch a 200 point move with 1 e mini
That’s 4000 dollars, with a micro it’s a 10th of the size.
With 5 contracts, catch a 100 point move, that’s 10000 dollars
Fees are negligible with only costing around 5 dollars to open and close a position per contract
Most prop firms have a max drawdown of 2.5k usd in a 50k account so you have 5 chances to make money using e minis which cost around 500-1000 to open.
But even if you get one trade that creates a good buffer.
But most traders use micros for better risk management and bigger stop losses
Yes the risk is just as giant as the reward,
So, what do you think? Cope or real way to make money if you know what you’re doing?
@Wicket @RJ_ascends @tenmacel @myoglobin @greylurker
what are the real statistics?
It’s not 99% of traders lose, it’s deeper than that
Statistically
74% of people who try trading are fast losers who treat it like a casino and lose most of their account within weeks or months and step away permanently from trading
23% of people were persistent persistent and tried their hardest for a long period of time but still ended up quitting with a loss
(So overall 97% quit with a loss, making a profitable trader 1 in 30)
1.9% manage to make a lil money on the side, often below minimum wage but not enough to replace a job, the lower half mostly just break even.
0.6% make enough money to replace their job and just trade full time
0.49% get comfortably wealth and make up to what’s considered a professional salary
And 0.01% actually get stinking rich
Why?
Trading is just gambling in a sense because it’s the same concept, bet on an outcome that hasn’t been determined yet.
But unlike total randomness, you can use certain tools or concepts and theories to give yourself an edge.
Those 97% who fail, most of them don’t have a real strategy, most of them give up too soon, most of them get emotional, most of them revenge trade, most of them don’t stick to their rules, most of them get greedy, most of them don’t have proper risk management.
It’s not a get rich quick scheme but a job, it requires the same amount of attention and smart approach and dedication as one.
The money math:
a lot of traders trade an instrument called nq
Which is 100 of the biggest tech companies in the us in a index averaging out at a price of abt 30,000 usd
Nq frequently makes 100-200 dollar price moves daily.
The way you make money is based on points, and 1 dollar of price movement is 1point
So if it goes down to 29,999 from 30,000
That’s 1 point down
If it goes up to 30,001 from 30,000 that’s 1 point up
You have an micro nq contract which gives you or takes 2 dollars per point moved
And e-mini nq which gives you or takes 20 dollars per point moved
Once you open the position
So if you catch a 200 point move with 1 e mini
That’s 4000 dollars, with a micro it’s a 10th of the size.
With 5 contracts, catch a 100 point move, that’s 10000 dollars
Fees are negligible with only costing around 5 dollars to open and close a position per contract
Most prop firms have a max drawdown of 2.5k usd in a 50k account so you have 5 chances to make money using e minis which cost around 500-1000 to open.
But even if you get one trade that creates a good buffer.
But most traders use micros for better risk management and bigger stop losses
Yes the risk is just as giant as the reward,
So, what do you think? Cope or real way to make money if you know what you’re doing?
@Wicket @RJ_ascends @tenmacel @myoglobin @greylurker
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