Is eating raw meat a meme?

[AscendingHero]

I'm talking about the historical side of your post

I'm not a historial guru by any means, don't quote me on this jfl

I already eat raw meat anyway

A based man, good for you

 

[kalefartbomb]

So what do you believe in- veganism? Read Andreas Moritz's on his take on cooked animal protein. I dont' have time to have a lengthy discussion right now but I will say that a big thing raw meat has over cooked meat is the digestion.

Certainly not vegan. Evolutionary diet, species-appropriate diet, whatever you want to call it. I don't like "carnivore" because its too restrictive. Red meat, fish, eggs, wild berries, fermented veg and in certain regions raw dairy. I think fruit is ok in moderation, I think vegetables should be fermented otherwise they're an abomination.

As someone who eats both raw and cooked meat, I don't notice a difference in digestion. What can affect digestion is what you eat the meat with, and people who eat cooked meat tend to eat "normal" foods with it, like burger buns, fries, potatoes etc which will negatively affect digestion. Whereas raw meat is more of a delicacy.

Another point is food quality. It's one thing for me in Europe to go to my local farmer market and eat raw grass fed liver straight from the stall. In many cities you simply can't do this, it's dangerous. In America you sometimes have to go hundreds of miles to find decent quality meat. So yes raw meat is great if the meat is good quality from a good farm but it worries me about telling kids to eat raw meat then they go to their supermarket and eat some imported shit raw and get sick. Not all meat is equal.

 

[AscendingHero]

Certainly not vegan. Evolutionary diet, species-appropriate diet, whatever you want to call it. I don't like "carnivore" because its too restrictive. Red meat, fish, eggs, wild berries, fermented veg and in certain regions raw dairy. I think fruit is ok in moderation, I think vegetables should be fermented otherwise they're an abomination.

Agreed ideal is a balanced diet but with plenty of animal protein?

Thoughts on fruits?

 

[Deleted member 13854]

It's okay if you do it with well-sourced meat, but might as well cook it. Maybe with organs it would make sense to not cook them, so you can retain the nutrients.

 

[kalefartbomb]

Agreed ideal is a balanced diet but with plenty of animal protein?

Thoughts on fruits?

The word "balance" can be a problem, it depends what you mean. Because we're trying to achieve complete nutrition, not some arbitrary balance of ingredients, or balance of macros. The more complete the food, the less balance you need in the diet. The indigenous Swiss ate nothing but raw dairy and rye bread for most of the year and had perfect health and teeth. Because their dairy and meat was such high quality they didn't need nutrition from elsewhere. Most indigenous societies ate pretty much whatever animals were native to their area and not much else. But they ate the complete animal, not just bits of it which is the modern problem. Eating complete animals will generally yield a perfect balance of amino acids and micronutrients, which is the balance that matters.

For fruit I tend to prefer fruit like berries over the really over-engineered modern stuff like bananas. Berries are closer to original wild fruits in terms of their micronutrient:sugar ratio.

 

[AscendingHero]

The word "balance" can be a problem, it depends what you mean. Because we're trying to achieve complete nutrition, not some arbitrary balance of ingredients, or balance of macros. The more complete the food, the less balance you need in the diet. The indigenous Swiss ate nothing but raw dairy and rye bread for most of the year and had perfect health and teeth. Because their dairy and meat was such high quality they didn't need nutrition from elsewhere. Most indigenous societies ate pretty much whatever animals were native to their area and not much else. But they ate the complete animal, not just bits of it which is the modern problem. Eating complete animals will generally yield a perfect balance of amino acids and micronutrients, which is the balance that matters.

For fruit I tend to prefer fruit like berries over the really over-engineered modern stuff like bananas. Berries are closer to original wild fruits in terms of their micronutrient:sugar ratio.

100% percent agree, very well-said.

The indigenous Swiss ate nothing but raw dairy and rye bread for most of the year and had perfect health and teeth.

I'm guessing you've done your research and come across Weston Price's work?

 

[TITUS]

Lol I agree with what you said but what i said isn't mental illness jfl at ur iq, knew this would happen, go educate yourself and read Aajonus's books

I know the guy but im too busy, hes probably just a bro-scientist, and i already eat enough raw animals.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

Besides the raw dairy, did the diet have a positive impact on you?

No, it is completely overhyped. Just eat good food and you are fine. Aajonus was autistic, he always was.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

If you have acne it's because you have a) something in your environment poisoning you or b) a severe nutritional deficiency.

Usually it's a combination of both. Common irritants are food like homogenised milk, pesticides in food or something that you put on your skin. Any food that irritates your gut should be avoided. To fix nutritional deficiencies related to acne just eat 500g of liver every week for a month or two. You'll quickly notice much improved healing time and fewer spots.

Another reason you have acne is because maybe of the severe toxicity you still had in your body. I still don't know how raw dairy worsened your acne.

For me if anything it improved my collagen tremendously and I was only on it for a week until my cucked parents had to be cucks........

Eat a shit ton of animal fat and beef livers for ur skin=Glowing clear skin in weeks btw

Heard that a thousand times. Got my blood checked and I am only missing Vitamin D and a little bit Magnesium which btw is hard to get on the Primal Diet. I did eat A LOT of RAW LIVER from wildgame and it did NOT get better, in fact it got worse and worse. Milk contains IGF-1 which stimulates sebum production (it is a growth hormone after all), therefore acne prone skin will break out.
I do not have toxicity in my body, I am pretty sure since I feel well and super healthy, only the facial skin is bad. I really ate all the raw animal fat I could find, wildgame organs, I even drank blood etc.. the list goes on.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

Still think your acne wasn't due to the raw dairy. Maybe some people are lactose intolerant and just can't handle dairy they're some out there but i still think you still had a ton of toxicity in and around you aswell as doing things that irritated your gut.

If you ate and junk food or put an toxic crap on your skin this may be why

I was very serious with the diet and did ONLY AND ONLY eat raw or rare fatty cuts of beef, venison, wild boar, deer.. sometimes seasonal vegetables I got from a local organic farmer, one fruit a day, raw sheep milk, raw jersey milk, raw cheeses, raw butter, animal organs like liver, kidneys, brain etc, raw and rare...

What I never did where those vegetable juices Aajonus recommends since I do not own a blender. I just ate some celery whole here and there but very very rarely.

I did not put ANYTHING on my face except for water maximum once a day and yet every night inflamed pustules formed. I also have Cholinergic Urticaria and it gets better when I don't eat high histamine foods. Primal diet foods are often high in histamine like hard raw cheeses for example.

One big pro of the primal diet is the testosterone gain tho, I agree. I have natural high T now. The wider face part is also true, I look cavemanlike now, like my face grew in width 100percent.

 

[AscendingHero]

I was very serious with the diet and did ONLY AND ONLY eat raw or rare fatty cuts of beef, venison, wild boar, deer.. sometimes seasonal vegetables I got from a local organic farmer, one fruit a day, raw sheep milk, raw jersey milk, raw cheeses, raw butter, animal organs like liver, kidneys, brain etc, raw and rare...

What I never did where those vegetable juices Aajonus recommends since I do not own a blender. I just ate some celery whole here and there but very very rarely.

I did not put ANYTHING on my face except for water maximum once a day and yet every night inflamed pustules formed. I also have Cholinergic Urticaria and it gets better when I don't eat high histamine foods. Primal diet foods are often high in histamine like hard raw cheeses for example.

One big pro of the primal diet is the testosterone gain tho, I agree. I have natural high T now. The wider face part is also true, I look cavemanlike now, like my face grew in width 100percent.

Mirin the changes and dedication brother

Age?

Yea some people just have an intolerance to dairy, despite it being raw or no and just can't handle it. My hypothesis is all the toxicity you've been getting from microwave radiation, to PUFAS, xenoestrogens, diet before primal, etc contributed to this.

Anyways do the vegetable juice stuff he recommends. Humans have to much toxicity nowadays to go full raw you need some medicine in the form of carrot/cucumber/celery juice, etc.

 

[AscendingHero]

Got my blood checked and I am only missing Vitamin D and a little bit Magnesium which btw is hard to get on the Primal Diet.

You should be getting most of your vitamin D from the sun man, if you don't have enough sunlight where you live buy a Vitamin D lamp.

For magnesium eat a ton of organ meats and try eating spinach, avocados, and nuts/seeds (Although I would be cautious and wary of the anti-nutrients and probable agrochemicals those contain) Also you could try supplementing.

I do not have toxicity in my body, I am pretty sure since I feel well and super healthy, only the facial skin is bad. I really ate all the raw animal fat I could find, wildgame organs, I even drank blood etc.. the list goes on.

In a Western Country in 2021, it's certain you have some form of toxicity in you, there's just no way around it. But what you can do is try and avoid as many as possible and build the body up to a certain health and efficiency that it can get resist, detox, and function around and even in the midst of toxicity.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

Mirin the changes and dedication brother

Age?

Yea some people just have an intolerance to dairy, despite it being raw or no and just can't handle it. My hypothesis is all the toxicity you've been getting from microwave radiation, to PUFAS, xenoestrogens, diet before primal, etc contributed to this.

Anyways do the vegetable juice stuff he recommends. Humans have to much toxicity nowadays to go full raw you need some medicine in the form of carrot/cucumber/celery juice, etc.

Thanks bro! I'm really glad to see someone here who knows his stuff about diet too

I started primal when I turned 19 all the way up until now, I am 21 now.

I actually don't have a dairy intolerance, I perfectly digest it, even large amounts. It is really only and only a skin issue. My skin was always bad since I was 14 but not as bad as now. Did probably get a lot of toxins before primal tho, my mum used to cook with loads of vegetable oil and I eat a lot of sweets n other junk.

Will try vegetable juice.

 

[AscendingHero]

I was very serious with the diet and did ONLY AND ONLY eat raw or rare fatty cuts of beef, venison, wild boar, deer.. sometimes seasonal vegetables I got from a local organic farmer, one fruit a day, raw sheep milk, raw jersey milk, raw cheeses, raw butter, animal organs like liver, kidneys, brain etc, raw and rare...

What I never did where those vegetable juices Aajonus recommends since I do not own a blender. I just ate some celery whole here and there but very very rarely.

I did not put ANYTHING on my face except for water maximum once a day and yet every night inflamed pustules formed. I also have Cholinergic Urticaria and it gets better when I don't eat high histamine foods. Primal diet foods are often high in histamine like hard raw cheeses for example.

One big pro of the primal diet is the testosterone gain tho, I agree. I have natural high T now. The wider face part is also true, I look cavemanlike now, like my face grew in width 100percent.

mirin what other facial changes/aesthetic changes have you noticed?

 

[AscendingHero]

Thanks bro! I'm really glad to see someone here who knows his stuff about diet too

I started primal when I turned 19 all the way up until now, I am 21 now.

I actually don't have a dairy intolerance, I perfectly digest it, even large amounts. It is really only and only a skin issue. My skin was always bad since I was 14 but not as bad as now. Did probably get a lot of toxins before primal tho, my mum used to cook with loads of vegetable oil and I eat a lot of sweets n other junk.

Will try vegetable juice.

For the skin, I'll recommend stuff like Vitamin C serums+Dermaneedling+ Tretonin, etc, if that doesn't work see a dermatologist.

But I will say be wary of them alot of them just advise stuff to make a quick buck and even if they do work they're very expensive and contain alot of toxins and harmful chemicals.

Dermaneedling is very legit, check out some of the skin threads here tho.

I still think skin issues are an internal problem so try and figure what that is. If you avoid dairy you'll need to get your carbs and minerals from somewhere else, so eat seafood (oysters, fish, shrimp) and high quality potatoes/rice.

Just be careful of the sourcing of the seafood esp.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

You should be getting most of your vitamin D from the sun man, if you don't have enough sunlight where you live buy a Vitamin D lamp.

For magnesium eat a ton of organ meats and try eating spinach, avocados, and nuts/seeds (Although I would be cautious and wary of the anti-nutrients and probable agrochemicals those contain) Also you could try supplementing.

In a Western Country in 2021, it's certain you have some form of toxicity in you, there's just no way around it. But what you can do is try and avoid as many as possible and build the body up to a certain health and efficiency that it can get resist, detox, and function around and even in the midst of toxicity.

Yeah I recently included nuts n seeds, feel better now. I always had the feeling something was missing when eating. Sourdough rye bread is also not the worst thing in the world.. the population of the alps used to thrive on a diet of raw cured meats, raw dairy and sourdough rye bread with large amounts of raw butter. Tastes like heaven.

mirin what other facial changes/aesthetic changes have you noticed?

Facial changes where only in width. I expected more tbh like some super visible jaw or cheekbone growth as I combined liver and sauerkraut/fermented stuff with raw milk for a long period which contains all the nutrients and even a growth factor from the raw dairy. Expectint that is a pipedream I guess, but hey, it gets better. Gained muscle mass without even working out too much, my biceps is large. Broader shoulders. Thicker arms. Deeper voice. I am aware those are signs of the biological maturing but diet played a role in this, for sure.

 

[Deleted member 12216]

For the skin, I'll recommend stuff like Vitamin C serums+Dermaneedling+ Tretonin, etc, if that doesn't work see a dermatologist.

But I will say be wary of them alot of them just advise stuff to make a quick buck and even if they do work they're very expensive and contain alot of toxins and harmful chemicals.

Dermaneedling is very legit, check out some of the skin threads here tho.

I still think skin issues are an internal problem so try and figure what that is. If you avoid dairy you'll need to get your carbs and minerals from somewhere else, so eat seafood (oysters, fish, shrimp) and high quality potatoes/rice.

Just be careful of the sourcing of the seafood esp.

Thanks for the quality replies man, I really appreciate.

Went to the derm, got prescribed Epiduo (Benzoylperoxide+Adapalene) and I know it works, with bad dry skin as a side effect, but I am currently trying to avoid all dairy for 3 months or longer and see what happens. If I still have Acne I will use the medication and start drinking raw milk n eating raw dairy again.

Btw I also have another skin condition, cholinergic urticaria. Face stings and itches like hell and I get deep red spots for a short period after I do sports or I am under stress (whenever body temp rises). Battling that shit for 3 years now and I excluded all high histamine foods and it is harder to trigger now.. it will probably go away on its own one day! A lot of people from the primal community told me it has to be due to a toxin in my environment or because I still have toxicity in my body. I will only wash my clothes and bedsheets with water from now on and ditch that toxic washing substances.

 

[softlysoftly]

My hypothesis is all the toxicity you've been getting from microwave radiation, to PUFAS, xenoestrogens, diet before primal, etc contributed to this.

holy cow mate you are really like stupid as fuck
literally nothing qualifies you to speak on human diet and nutrition yet you speak like some kind of expert
the moment you quoted the works of a fraudulent actor as sound nutrition advice I knew you were either a joke or a completely uneducated retard
I think you fall into the latter

 

[softlysoftly]

View attachment 1142209 An oldcel subhuman who improved his health considerably on the diet, there's a ton of before and afters and remarkable testimonials so I'll just link this site: We Want2Live.com/Testimonials

omg you braindead clown you should be demodded and banned for spreading dangerous contraindicated advice!

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

Read We Want to Live and The Recipe for Living Without Disease, follow the guidelines strictly.

Yeah I would buy these books is there a specific site to interact with ppl whose on the primal/Aajonus diet

Already bought Weston Price and Andreas Moritz

 

[Deleted member 52057]

The word "balance" can be a problem, it depends what you mean. Because we're trying to achieve complete nutrition, not some arbitrary balance of ingredients, or balance of macros. The more complete the food, the less balance you need in the diet. The indigenous Swiss ate nothing but raw dairy and rye bread for most of the year and had perfect health and teeth. Because their dairy and meat was such high quality they didn't need nutrition from elsewhere. Most indigenous societies ate pretty much whatever animals were native to their area and not much else. But they ate the complete animal, not just bits of it which is the modern problem. Eating complete animals will generally yield a perfect balance of amino acids and micronutrients, which is the balance that matters.

For fruit I tend to prefer fruit like berries over the really over-engineered modern stuff like bananas. Berries are closer to original wild fruits in terms of their micronutrient:sugar ratio.

indigenous swiss (the guy from youtube) introduced me to the raw diet
blessings to that guy

 

[Deleted member 52057]

the aryans ate raw meat
end of the discussion