Is Eppley a meme? (lateral commisuroplasty)

[soapbubble]

I want to get a lateral commisuroplasty for mouth widening in a few years once I’m 18/19, and Eppley is one of the few surgeons who does it. There are a lot of mixed opinions on the guy but his commisuroplasty results seem good. Seriously, is he worth it? So many mixed results, and I’ve seen so many comparisons of him and Giant Implants here, who is notoriously unreliable judging by patient complaints, realself, and plastic surgery reddit forums.

 

[Doctor Egor]

you should trust him

 

[Just_Get_Monero]

Isn't mouth widening just a meme surgery?

 

[soapbubble]

Isn't mouth widening just a meme surgery?

It exists, i’m fairly certain Eppley’s done it. however it’s a niche surgery that’s a lot easier to mess up so there aren’t many surgeons that are willing

 

[Realism]

The problem with Eppley is that he will agree to mostly anything you want to do, even though it's not in your best interest.

He will recommend a ton of implants, mouth widening surgery and what not, when what the person actually needed was a bimax.

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Epply is 100% a meme.

Try and get in with Mascaro, he does high volume lip work.

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

South Korea is also an option, they do it a bit more commonly their too. Still not done a ton thou.

 

[bossman]

He has a fair amount of before/afters for it. But the changes are minimal.

He is 70 now and has a history of botching people.

Don’t do it.

The lip pill is the hardest pill to swallow. None of the doctors mentioned here can “lengthen” the lips, they can merely add fullness or make them more upturned. Eppley is able to but he shouldn’t be trusted

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

None of the doctors mentioned here can “lengthen” the lips, they can merely add fullness or make them more upturned. Eppley is able to but he shouldn’t be trusted

Eppley does a lateral commisuroplasty using YV advance, so does Mascaro, so do surgeons in South Korea.

By far the South Koreans are the most aggressive, while Eppley has the least experience preforming the procedure.

 

[bossman]

Eppley does a lateral commisuroplasty using YV advance, so does Mascaro, so do surgeons in South Korea.

By far the South Koreans are the most aggressive, while Eppley has the least experience preforming the procedure.

please could you provide an example of one of these south korean surgeons?

also i tried to find any results of mascro doing this, but i could only find lip lifts. so if you could provide some examples here that would be great too

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

please could you provide an example of one of these south korean surgeons?

also i tried to find any results of mascro doing this, but i could only find lip lifts. so if you could provide some examples here that would be great too

In general there are a large number of procedures that are essentially off menu, plastic surgeons can preform. That's what makes epplys conduct shocking. Not only does he preformed a large number of these(most would max do 1-2), he advertises them as well. That's why its difficult finding them for other providers.

Eppley: Preforming large number of what is normally off menu niche surgeries, thus not doing them at high volume for any specific surgery. Which is one reason why his botch rate his so high.
Mascaro: Does 1-3 lip lifts a day for 8-10 years(yes that means people go to him for "lips" and some % will need corner lifts/joker lift/lateral commisuroplasty)
South Korea: Asia is more aggressive in all surgeries, for both cultural and practical reasons(their legal framework is much stronger for surgeons).


Here is an example of south korea;


Marsco doesn't have any online afaik, I've seen them in person.

 

[bossman]

In general there are a large number of procedures that are essentially off menu, plastic surgeons can preform. That's what makes epplys conduct shocking. Not only does he preformed a large number of these(most would max do 1-2), he advertises them as well. That's why its difficult finding them for other providers.

Eppley: Preforming large number of what is normally off menu niche surgeries, thus not doing them at high volume for any specific surgery. Which is one reason why his botch rate his so high.
Mascaro: Does 1-3 lip lifts a day for 8-10 years(yes that means people go to him for "lips" and some % will need corner lifts/joker lift/lateral commisuroplasty)
South Korea: Asia is more aggressive in all surgeries, for both cultural and practical reasons(their legal framework is much stronger for surgeons).


Here is an example of south korea;


Marsco doesn't have any online afaik, I've seen them in person.

holy botched

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

She looks over done, sure that’s what being too aggressive is. Your line just seems to be random though.

 

[bossman]

She looks over done, sure that’s what being too aggressive is. Your line just seems to be random though.

I didn't draw the line just screenshotted a part of the video.

But no, it is just proof that you cannot add significant length that looks natural.

 

[killuacel]

I didn't draw the line just screenshotted a part of the video.

But no, it is just proof that you cannot add significant length that looks natural.

Fuck, its truly over for us narrowlipcels

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

I didn't draw the line just screenshotted a part of the video.

But no, it is just proof that you cannot add significant length that looks natural.

You are truly a midwit.

No one said it would. The claim is that epply is by far the worst of the options. He is.

In what world would aggressive translate to natural.

 

[bossman]

Fuck, its truly over for us narrowlipcels

If you are truly a narrowlipcel, then yes.

But I think a lot of people incorrectly think this, when in reality their lips don't harmonise with the rest of their face. This might be due to a lack of facial depth, too much facial width, or too much alar width.

As long as your lip width is 70%+ of your IPD you should be fine.

 

[killuacel]

If you are truly a narrowlipcel, then yes.

But I think a lot of people incorrectly think this, when in reality their lips don't harmonise with the rest of their face. This might be due to a lack of facial depth, too much facial width, or too much alar width.

As long as your lip width is 70%+ of your IPD you should be fine.

My lip width is around 76% of my ipd.
Then again my esr is also poor jfl.

I'm most likely going to reduce my alar width to try and give the illusion my lips are wider. Possibly some filler too as they are slightly thin.

 

[Oesteogenesis]

holy botched

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looks a bit uncanny ngl

 

[Jgns]

holy botched

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in another timeline she coulda had a crazy ascension the iqpill is brutal asf

 

[Nahorscend]

If you are truly a narrowlipcel, then yes.

But I think a lot of people incorrectly think this, when in reality their lips don't harmonise with the rest of their face. This might be due to a lack of facial depth, too much facial width, or too much alar width.

As long as your lip width is 70%+ of your IPD you should be fine.

72-74%

Alar base reduction if you can hear us alar base reduction please save me
Time to scapegoat the nose and narrow it till I can't breathe all because the surgery that I actually need is the one surgery that doesn't exist in any meaningful way

 

[nishka]

72-74%

Alar base reduction if you can hear us alar base reduction please save me
Time to scapegoat the nose and narrow it till I can't breathe all because the surgery that I actually need is the one surgery that doesn't exist in any meaningful way
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alar base reduction doesnt work?

 

[Nahorscend]

alar base reduction doesnt work?

It works but if you don't actually have a significantly wide alar base and half the reason you are doing it is just to improve your nose to mouth ratio (can't widen mouth hence have to narrow nose) then it is kinda not ideal.

 

[Ascension75]

holy botched

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Forever smiling like the joker. Not too bad. Also in motion she does look brighter and happier.

My lip corners are down turned so people usually ask me why I am sad or angry lmao

 

[Prøphet]

In general there are a large number of procedures that are essentially off menu, plastic surgeons can preform. That's what makes epplys conduct shocking. Not only does he preformed a large number of these(most would max do 1-2), he advertises them as well. That's why its difficult finding them for other providers.

Eppley: Preforming large number of what is normally off menu niche surgeries, thus not doing them at high volume for any specific surgery. Which is one reason why his botch rate his so high.
Mascaro: Does 1-3 lip lifts a day for 8-10 years(yes that means people go to him for "lips" and some % will need corner lifts/joker lift/lateral commisuroplasty)
South Korea: Asia is more aggressive in all surgeries, for both cultural and practical reasons(their legal framework is much stronger for surgeons).


Here is an example of south korea;


Marsco doesn't have any online afaik, I've seen them in person.

holy botched

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JFLLL Holy shit why do all these foids go with the most low iq surgeries ever, she needed something for her eyes now she just looks uncanny and sick

 

[bossman]

Forever smiling like the joker. Not too bad. Also in motion she does look brighter and happier.

My lip corners are down turned so people usually ask me why I am sad or angry lmao

JFLLL Holy shit why do all these foids go with the most low iq surgeries ever, she needed something for her eyes now she just looks uncanny and sick

looks a bit uncanny ngl

The funny thing is, it didn't even change the width.

Before IPD: 179 pixels
Before lip width: 145 pixels (81% of IPD)

After IPD: 184 pixels
After lip width: 149 pixels (81% of IPD) - UNCHANGED

EVERYONE needs to swallow the lip pill.

My lip width is around 76% of my ipd.
Then again my esr is also poor jfl.

I'm most likely going to reduce my alar width to try and give the illusion my lips are wider. Possibly some filler too as they are slightly thin
in another timeline she coulda had a crazy ascension the iqpill is brutal asf

72-74%

Alar base reduction if you can hear us alar base reduction please save me
Time to scapegoat the nose and narrow it till I can't breathe all because the surgery that I actually need is the one surgery that doesn't exist in any meaningful way
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Yes, bear in mind that there are a lot of flaws of calculating lip width relative to IPD, but in my opinion it is the fastest heuristic. Especially because the triangle formed by both eyes and the lips are the most important part of the face.

I think measuring in relation bigonial width is not helpful if you are recessed. These models don't have "wide" lips but still look fine because there is contour in the lower face, it's not flat but there is outward projection. This is somewhat related to the "muzzle" look that has been described by others on this site.

O' Pry has a short alar base. The second model has a wider alar base, but it looks masculine. Facial aesthetics is an extremely complex web which is why incremental change is the best way to go about things.

My controversial opinion is that some lipcels will truly benefit from jaw reduction surgery. Lip issues should always be judged by a holistic facial plastic surgeon with a good aesthetic eye first, before talking to a lip specialist. One example is Dr. Ariel Rad (expensive asf)