Is everything under htn just ugly?

i can send you the mtn slayers if you want
again tales from chadlite. It doesnt make sense for someone above a certain looks level to speak on it
 
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Wouldn't expect many users here to understand it.
Be a charming ltn/mtn you will see to how many rejections it will lead you to. And when you do pull something above femcel level you will most likely get cucked when the naturally nt htn/chadlite appears
 
again tales from chadlite. It doesnt make sense for someone above a certain looks level to speak on it
sure bro it makes more sense to craft basment theories when you have 0 IRL experience
 
theres a big difference between ugly and average

ugly = people hate u for no reason
average = u can still be somewhat liked and get respect with body/money/height/nt etc
 
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sure bro it makes more sense to craft basment theories when you have 0 IRL experience
I am a human being i have a lot of experience, from when i was young and ugly and from now
 
theres a big difference between ugly and average

ugly = people hate u for no reason
average = u can still be somewhat liked and get respect with body/money/height/nt etc
pretty much my point, average = ugly but not repulsive you can still compensate although you are nothing special and a girl will never truly be proud of having you. You are meh you are being settled for
 
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I am a human being i have a lot of experience, from when i was young and ugly and from now
but youve only been to a club once in your life, how would you know how it turns out there and who slays?
 
Most posters on this forum irrespective of their own looks level view themselves as HTN or at least people that mog the average person.
HTN is a guy that has actual dimorphism and good facial harmony like this on the left pic. Problem is that, as you've said, users like the pic on the right consider themselves as HTNs xddddd
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but youve only been to a club once in your life, how would you know how it turns out there and who slays?
bc i have friends that so go to clubs. I have a mtn friend that is rich, he got a gf. Got cheated on. Have a mtn friend that has a gf, but she is fat and femcel he is in a happy relationship though i guess. I have friends that go to clubs and only pull girls that are whores and giga drunk jfl. You are so delusional if u think muh body or height or charm will just easily compensate for mid to ugly face
 
bc i have friends that so go to clubs. I have a mtn friend that is rich, he got a gf. Got cheated on. Have a mtn friend that has a gf, but she is fat and femcel he is in a happy relationship though i guess. I have friends that go to clubs and only pull girls that are whores and giga drunk jfl. You are so delusional if u think muh body or height or charm will just easily compensate for mid to ugly face
never did I say its as easy as if youre HTN+

its just that its not over tier if youre average

even in nightclubs there are so many recessed subhumans
 
never did I say its as easy as if youre HTN+

its just that its not over tier if youre average

even in nightclubs there are so many recessed subhumans
and most of those recessed subhumans leave without anything. Most of those subhumans could NEVER pull a girl that is not worthless like most girls in clubs are. Jfl with this club club club cope. If you wanna pull a respectable girl, if you see a gl girl outside or somewhere you will NOT pull her if you are under htn you just wont. Leave the club and join real life and suddenly the chances drop even harder for “mediocre” guys. Its just reality
 
and most of those recessed subhumans leave without anything. Most of those subhumans could NEVER pull a girl that is not worthless like most girls in clubs are. Jfl with this club club club cope. If you wanna pull a respectable girl, if you see a gl girl outside or somewhere you will NOT pull her if you are under htn you just wont. Leave the club and join real life and suddenly the chances drop even harder for “mediocre” guys. Its just reality
yet I see tons of wifey material girls that have unremarkable looking boyfriends in the city, on social media etc

what i said doesnt only apply to clubs it applies to IRL too, its only that in clubs its more visible
 
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and most of those recessed subhumans leave without anything. Most of those subhumans could NEVER pull a girl that is not worthless like most girls in clubs are. Jfl with this club club club cope. If you wanna pull a respectable girl, if you see a gl girl outside or somewhere you will NOT pull her if you are under htn you just wont. Leave the club and join real life and suddenly the chances drop even harder for “mediocre” guys. Its just reality
blud thinks i live in the club jfl
 
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never did I say its as easy as if youre HTN+

its just that its not over tier if youre average

even in nightclubs there are so many recessed subhumans
like yeah sure mtn can pull with warm approach when he knows a girl well, if he has money or is a tall athlete. for a mtn something else is literally a MUST you need to compensate its law. For a htn tho you just need to not have starving tier body and you will be liked by most girls probably. Also at htn level you can at least respect yourself and know that your girl will have some sort of a positive reaction seeing your face. Mtn is just like whatever. Its literally whatever its npc
 
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Mtn rated by good raters on this forum looks good enough for most girls. If tall+socialcirclemaxxed (doesnt even have to be tall tbh) they tend to only date pretty girls too
 
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yet I see tons of wifey material girls that have unremarkable looking boyfriends in the city, on social media etc
yeah ive seen that too, and how many of them work out. Not many
Also i have never seen random invisible mtns get ioi’s or admiration from girls
 
Be a charming ltn/mtn you will see to how many rejections it will lead you to. And when you do pull something above femcel level you will most likely get cucked when the naturally nt htn/chadlite appears
You will receive a lot of initial disinterest, yes, but some girls will "give you a chance" and eventually they will soften up to you. Charming Chad is life on easy mode but MTN with charisma is the next best thing. MTN will have a harder time getting girls but in some cases can achieve the same end result as a good looking guy: LTR with respect and attraction from the girl.
 
Mtn rated by good raters on this forum looks good enough for most girls. If tall+socialcirclemaxxed (doesnt even have to be tall tbh) they tend to only date pretty girls too
Real life mtn is mediocre. It has mid in the fucking name it should be mediocre or average. Every day everywhere guy. Not gl enough. Invisible NPC. Common
 
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Real life mtn is mediocre. It has mid in the fucking name it should be mediocre or average. Every day everywhere guy. Not gl enough. Invisible NPC. Common
Which is why you should looksmax to mog, not get girls.
 
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Mtn rated by good raters on this forum looks good enough for most girls. If tall+socialcirclemaxxed (doesnt even have to be tall tbh) they tend to only date pretty girls too
the fucking prettyboys i post here get mtn htn ratings while popular on tiktok and shit, if rates are gonna be that braindead sure mtn is enough. Vinnie hacker is htn after all for some users
 
You will receive a lot of initial disinterest, yes, but some girls will "give you a chance" and eventually they will soften up to you. Charming Chad is life on easy mode but MTN with charisma is the next best thing. MTN will have a harder time getting girls but in some cases can achieve the same end result as a good looking guy: LTR with respect and attraction from the girl.
Chadlite is the next best thing, then htn is the next best thing. After that its all meh. mid tier low tier subhuman its all invisible. Mtn can at least compensate though i guess
 
yet I see tons of wifey material girls that have unremarkable looking boyfriends in the city, on social media etc

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Muh unremarkable guys.
By the way, the average height for zoomers is 6‘2… so sorry.
 
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Which is why you should looksmax to mog, not get girls.
unfortunately its not that easy. Genetics can really set you back, some just dont have the potential to hit the necessary htn minimum
 
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Muh unremarkable guys.
By the way, the average height for zoomers is 6‘2… so sorry.
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these are the unremarkable guys in question. MTNs and HTNs. Unremarkable and common irl jfl. Its so over
 
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unfortunately its not that easy. Genetics can really set you back, some just dont have the potential to hit the necessary htn minimum
Being here is great you have potential due to good base (forward growth, no downward growth, good ratios) since you will likely just need implants/fat grafts like I do to look good. Being here with no looksmaxing potential seems quite depressing.
 
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Being here is great you have potential due to good base (forward growth, no downward growth, good ratios) since you will likely just need implants/fat grafts like I do to look good. Being here with no looksmaxing potential seems quite depressing.
I also think that surgeries are cope for most. If you do get them good for you but for most users its just a cope so they can sleep at night. Until i see the money and the opportunity i am standing by the fact that i will most likely never have the opportunity to get a surgery. Its softmaxx what you can and hope for the best
 
the fucking prettyboys i post here get mtn htn ratings while popular on tiktok and shit, if rates are gonna be that braindead sure mtn is enough. Vinnie hacker is htn after all for some users
obviously vinnie is not htn, hes around 6 psl, the other guys you post are htn/chadlite yes which is highly attractive (95th+ percentile) and plenty good enough to go viral on tiktok
 
Yes.
 
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obviously vinnie is not htn, hes around 6 psl, the other guys you post are htn/chadlite yes which is highly attractive (95th+ percentile) and plenty good enough to go viral on tiktok
chadlite+ minimum for most of them. Also its absolutely psychotic to claim that you spot a lot of guys that look like them irl, thats simply not the case.
Although there were people who rated some of them literally as low as mtn jfl. Mtn is invisible, htn is starting to be gl and striking and not npc. These guys just mog.
@HalfGypsyMogger
 
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chadlite+ minimum for most of them. Also its absolutely psychotic to claim that you spot a lot of guys that look like them irl, thats simply not the case.
Although there were people who rated some of them literally as low as mtn jfl. Mtn is invisible, htn is starting to be gl and striking and not npc. These guys just mog.
@HalfGypsyMogger
this guy mogs your chadlite my friend
HTN is a guy that has actual dimorphism and good facial harmony like this on the left pic. Problem is that, as you've said, users like the pic on the right consider themselves as HTNs xddddd
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Chad appeal but not chad by psl. He lacks bone mass for that but yeah I prob underrated him
we are still talking about psl in 2023 like it matters to women in any possible way?
 
If youre not super gl, women will try to humble u
 
Mtn is dead average. Mtb is attractive for women since the average man is attracted to the average woman (the opposite isn't the case). Men are gaslit so hard or know its over that some guys will say that ltbs are attractive.
 
Mtn is dead average. Mtb is attractive for women since the average man is attracted to the average woman (the opposite isn't the case). Men are gaslit so hard or know its over that some guys will say that ltbs are attractive.
exactly mtn is dead average and common as fuck. Its everywhere and has nothing that stands out. Mtn is like drinking an invisibility potion, you wont get bullied for your looks but no one gives a shit about you. The jump to htn is a big one

Also yeah mtb is good enough in women case while mtn is simply not
 
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