Is filler the way to go? Timothy Haireth Situation Analysis (LONG THREAD)

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So i have recently seen quite a lot of videos of timothy haireth on him getting surgery all over social media, all the information he had to gather throughout years, plenty 1 on 1 consultations he had to have with many surgeons and doctors, getting in contact with surgery planners like giants implants, then we got to see his brutal post surgery, a ton of swelling, a load of pain, 50.000 dollars spent, had to fly from the USA to turkey, endure all of this ALONE, in a different country, at like 20 years old, etc.

He described it as the worst pain he ever had to endure and that tells you something coming from a 5'5 tall man with a unique disease that gets rid of all your hair (head, eyebrows, eyelashes, body, beard, etc) all while he was a teenager (aka peak life experiences missed) aswell as having a sub5 face, i mean the guy had EVERYTHING stacked against him, and yet he managed to make something out of himself, start an ecommerce business, "ascend" a little (after a lot of pain and planning), and start a social media.

But at the end of the day, even with all that INFO gathered over many years and IQ (yeah i assume he has a way above average iq and resilience to still be alive and "thriving" w his business and social media due to his circumstances) he BARELY managed to ascend, still got complications, had to re-take his surgery, more $ down the drain, pain, possible dependance on pain meds (addiction), etc, etc, etc.

And whats funny is that, again, he BARELY looks better, people say "oh its swelling" but BRO, swelling can also make you look BETTER than what it would look like if you were kinda boneless like he was, also the whole "wait in 1 year he will look better", BRO AGAIN the clock is ticking for all of us, today you are 20 and in a click of a finger you are 30 tomorrow, 1 year of recovery is too brutal, you gotta start living NOW.

Point being, most of us dont have his IQ, his resilience, his mental fortitude, his wallet, his pain tolerance, his experiences, the TIME to research it and do it and RECOVER from it. No way we can reach such an "ascension" (from a 4 to a 4.5 in SMV tbh) going under the knife, theres gotta be other ways, and thats were I THINK something like FILLERS, is the way to go.

Fillers is SIMPLE, CHEAP, LOWER RISK OF BEING BOTCHED, REVERSIBLE (for better or for worse depends on how you look at it), easier to perform, can be done/redone without general anesthesia, can be done by any certified and capable person (plenty exist if you live in a somewhat big city), is NOT INVASIVE, you can inmediatly see the results, you can dissolve them if you wish, they dont HURT at all, etc.

Ive changed my mind a lot after seeing Timothys videos, i doubt A LOT im getting any surgery in the future, fillers and softmaxxing is enough for me, what are your guys opinions?
 
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I think it depends on how serious your flaws are cuz fillers are like the icing on a cake if your features are mid then yh its def gna help but if you're recessed then you might have to get surgery.
 
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His chin is gone btw, lost connection totally
 
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His chin is gone btw, lost connection totally
oh my god thats terrible is that real?? this is exactly what i mean people think getting surgery is just a snap of your fingers and boom you are chad, meanwhile even getting sub optimal results like his takes YEARS of gathering information and actually finding a surgeon (qualified one ofc) willing to perform it, NOT EASY OR ACCESIBLE WHATSOEVER and all that for marginal results.... yeah i pass
 
I think it depends on how serious your flaws are cuz fillers are like the icing on a cake if your features are mid then yh its def gna help but if you're recessed then you might have to get surgery.
totally agree, however in my opinion you would have to be severely recessed and have some sort of deformity or health concern to even think about getting one, if not its very much NOT worth it (imo again)
 
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totally agree, however in my opinion you would have to be severely recessed and have some sort of deformity or health concern to even think about getting one, if not its very much NOT worth it (imo again)
Yeah i mean a lot of hardmaxxes ppl do to "ascend" are procedures which only really should be done if you have a severe facial deformity and getting the surgery would improve your quality of life e.g. help you breathe better
 
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Yeah i mean a lot of hardmaxxes ppl do to "ascend" are procedures which only really should be done if you have a severe facial deformity and getting the surgery would improve your quality of life e.g. help you breathe better
god its like a bucket fresh water finding someone who actually thinks long term for once lol, most people here recommend surgeries that 95% of REPUTABLE surgeons will never advice nor perform on you for obvious reasons
 
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I think it depends on how serious your flaws are cuz fillers are like the icing on a cake if your features are mid then yh its def gna help but if you're recessed then you might have to get surgery.
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this guy was clearly reccesed and now he looks a lot better with fillers
 
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this guy was clearly reccesed and now he looks a lot better with fillers
exactly, i have seen a lot of good results from fillers, and not so many with surgery, given the complications stemming from surgery (and all the other things i mentioned in the post) i truly believe fillers are the way to go for most people, timothys situation is just all i needed to make up my mind tbh
 
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Filler is always the way to go unless ur bite is fucked up or u have a short mandible length.

It’s limited by how bad ur jaw is at the start tho
 
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Filler is always the way to go unless ur bite is fucked up or u have a short mandible length.

It’s limited by how bad ur jaw is at the start tho
agree 100% but even then getting jaw surgery is way much more complicated and doesnt guarantee results as much as fillers does
 
ty, its crazy cause he doesnt even look bad from the outside I guess we cant really tell without scans
exactly, nobody knows whats going on inside, all that matters is that you look good from the outside and are "healthy" (aka not botched and can still function afterwards) in his case even with his high iq, information gathered, precise planning and good surgeon and even surgery planner HE STILL GOT BOTCHED, ¿whats left for us average dudes then?
 
exactly, i have seen a lot of good results from fillers, and not so many with surgery, given the complications stemming from surgery (and all the other things i mentioned in the post) i truly believe fillers are the way to go for most people, timothys situation is just all i needed to make up my mind tbh
Speaking of the future, do you plan to continue injections until you're 40? jfl
 

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