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Hello guys I am thinking about doing 4ml jaw filler each side 2ml chin filler.I dont think I will get much from bimax after seeing lurking truecels post.I have inward gonions.My question is will jaw and chin filler alone can save my chubby cheeks.If not I will start to save for zygo implants
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Nigga that’s a massive range, if your chubby cheeks are from high bf you just need to lose weight, if you’re boneless in that are than jaw and chin won’t fix the problem youd need something for your zygos. Although the jaw and chin filer would still help you look better tho for sure
 
Nigga that’s a massive range, if your chubby cheeks are from high bf you just need to lose weight, if you’re boneless in that are than jaw and chin won’t fix the problem youd need something for your zygos. Although the jaw and chin filer would still help you look better tho for sure
Its not from bf for sure.I see my abs and obliquees very clearly.Zygo fillers more likely to migrate so ı will go got implants for them I guess.And yes ı am boneless as fuck.My mother has the worst gummy smile I ever seen and my father has sleep apnea because he has no jaw.I am glad ı had this much bone from the start ıt could be worse
 
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Its not from bf for sure.I see my abs and obliquees very clearly.Zygo fillers more likely to migrate so ı will go got implants for them I guess.And yes ı am boneless as fuck.My mother has the worst gummy smile I ever seen and my father has sleep apnea because he has no jaw.I am glad ı had this much bone from the start ıt could be worse
Yeah jaw filler is the way to go then. And zygo filler laterally isn’t as prone to migratin and usually requires less if you’re up for it. But otherwise implants would be your only options.
 
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full custom peek implants or ldar, filler will migrate and disappear.

best implants, last forever and very customisable.
 
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firstly lose weight and debloat
Its becouse ı am boneless.I can clearly see my abs and obliques.And ıts a bad photo so ı understand the reason you saying this.Irl ı dont look that much bloated
 
Its becouse ı am boneless.I can clearly see my abs and obliques.And ıts a bad photo so ı understand the reason you saying this.Irl ı dont look that much bloated
zygos are flat ofc, some filler will help, lose weight and train masseters maybe will change the game
 
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full custom peek implants or ldar, filler will migrate and disappear.

best implants, last forever and very customisable.
I was thinking like you for some time.I saved 40k for the surgery too.But implants are way to much unpredictable in my opinion.Doing fillers rest of my life is better imo.
 
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zygos are flat ofc, some filler will help, lose weight and train masseters maybe will change the game
why give him horrible copes? masseters will not save him, not in the slightest, it might even make it significantly worse since he has bad gonions, they are not easy to atrophy. and losing weight will do nothing for a boneless person such as himself. implants are the only way.
 
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I was thinking like you for some time.I saved 40k for the surgery too.But implants are way to much unpredictable in my opinion.Doing fillers rest of my life is better imo.
full custom peek implants have a 0 botch rate (unless u get a absolutely stupid disabled surgeon), they are literally make for your skull, only failure is with incompetent surgeon but its easy to avoid it, just get giant to make your implants design and go to a surgeon in the west (possibly turkey is fine just make sure its good)
 
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why give him horrible copes? masseters will not save him, not in the slightest, it might even make it significantly worse since he has bad gonions, they are not easy to atrophy. and losing weight will do nothing for a boneless person such as himself. implants are the only way.
i agree but before doing implants or fillers he can try at least
 
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zygos are flat ofc, some filler will help, lose weight and train masseters maybe will change the game
Yes of course ı will.But ı dont think ıt will be game changer for me the bloating from my cheeks is purely from lack of bone support
 
full custom peek implants have a 0 botch rate (unless u get a absolutely stupid disabled surgeon), they are literally make for your skull, only failure is with incompetent surgeon but its easy to avoid it, just get giant to make your implants design and go to a surgeon in the west (possibly turkey is fine just make sure its good)
Yes but isnt my biggest failo my lower third and even giants clients get masseter dehiscence?
 
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full custom peek implants have a 0 botch rate (unless u get a absolutely stupid disabled surgeon), they are literally make for your skull, only failure is with incompetent surgeon but its easy to avoid it, just get giant to make your implants design and go to a surgeon in the west (possibly turkey is fine just make sure its good)
Absolute cope. Stop misguiding people here.

Giant has had more than 10 botches in the last year.

Show me one implant result that can even rival your average filler result.

@yussimania I wish we could purge this forum of this stupidity
 
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Absolute cope. Stop misguiding people here.

Giant has had more than 10 botches in the last year.

Show me one implant result that can even rival your average filler result.

@yussimania I wish we could purge this forum of this stupidity
natural selection lol

I wouldn't say go to Giant for jaw implants unless you're heavily lacking bone support (filler is just volume). And even then you don't have to go to Giant for that you could go to Ramieri or other surgeons who work with respected designers

But for anything Eye area related for sure gotta be him his results i've seen are great
 
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full custom peek implants have a 0 botch rate (unless u get a absolutely stupid disabled surgeon), they are literally make for your skull, only failure is with incompetent surgeon but its easy to avoid it, just get giant to make your implants design and go to a surgeon in the west (possibly turkey is fine just make sure its good)
stop giving advice man, you have no idea what ur talking about

first of all fillers rarely migrate if done properly, been abusing for 2 years no migration. Literally look at anyone on this forum who uses filler, theres no cases of migration whatsoever. yes they dissapear but luckily you can refill them (retard) 2nd of all implants are not easy to get right, revisions are INCREDIBLY common. I had to bail on my implants cause the result was mediocre and looked less natural compared to filler

also cage at recommending giant, who made someone look like this
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stop giving advice man, you have no idea what ur talking about

first of all fillers rarely migrate if done properly, been abusing for 2 years no migration. Literally look at anyone on this forum who uses filler, theres no cases of migration whatsoever. yes they dissapear but luckily you can refill them (retard) 2nd of all implants are not easy to get right, revisions are INCREDIBLY common. I had to bail on my implants cause the result was mediocre and looked less natural compared to filler

also cage at recommending giant, who made someone look like this
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I dont like giant but this pic must be edited.No way this is how he looks like
 
full custom peek implants have a 0 botch rate (unless u get a absolutely stupid disabled surgeon), they are literally make for your skull, only failure is with incompetent surgeon but its easy to avoid it, just get giant to make your implants design and go to a surgeon in the west (possibly turkey is fine just make sure its good)
Nigga said 0 botch rate
 
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Absolute cope. Stop misguiding people here.

Giant has had more than 10 botches in the last year.

Show me one implant result that can even rival your average filler result.

@yussimania I wish we could purge this forum of this stupidity
why am i coping? one implant result which absolutely demolishes ANY filler result is linoob @lin00b on tiktok, ive known him for a long time and spoken to him about his hardmax many times, he only got full custom peek implants and softmax and ascended from ltn > htn+

also for botches check below reply - (i didnt find spe'cific stuff on giant because he isn't the surgeon, so yea) but giants results are good imo.
stop giving advice man, you have no idea what ur talking about

first of all fillers rarely migrate if done properly, been abusing for 2 years no migration. Literally look at anyone on this forum who uses filler, theres no cases of migration whatsoever. yes they dissapear but luckily you can refill them (retard) 2nd of all implants are not easy to get right, revisions are INCREDIBLY common. I had to bail on my implants cause the result was mediocre and looked less natural compared to filler

also cage at recommending giant, who made someone look like this
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giant result below btw jfl :feelsuhh:

i know people who have had filler migration and they looked horrible for months. but yeah filler is a good temporary option in my opinion implants/bsso or bimax is better for most cases (if we are considering long term)

i was quoted 20k usd for bsso and full custom peek implants. (didn't end up going with it)
natural selection lol

I wouldn't say go to Giant for jaw implants unless you're heavily lacking bone support (filler is just volume). And even then you don't have to go to Giant for that you could go to Ramieri or other surgeons who work with respected designers

But for anything Eye area related for sure gotta be him his results i've seen are great
giant result below.. dont generalize bc sum guys wanted too much and got a bad result due to greed.
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Nigga said 0 botch rate
PEEK implants showed a complication rate of ~22.2%, primarily hematoma

examines 52 patients, no major complications, and in other studies we see similar rates (10-30%) and most "botches"/"complications" are infection/hematoma and not major issue if properly taken care of - can easily be avoided.

SECOND STUDY - MORE SPECIFIC COMPLICATIONS DETAILED:
BUT ALSO IT INCLUDES CRANIAL VAULT RECONSTRUCTION (HIGHER COMPLICATION RATES)
28% complication rate - infection (13%), postoperative hematoma (10%), CSF leak (2.5%), wound problems (2.5%)
(infection resulting from primary hematoma)



TLDR; GET A GOOD SURGEON AND ITS BEGUN.


ALSO 0 BOTCH RATE IS WRONG PLEASE DON'T HAVE A FIT I JUST MEANT IN TERMS OF UNAPPEALING RESULTS - USUALLY THEY ARE GOOD RESULTS. UNLESS PRIOR SURGERY INTERFERED/BAD SURGEON OR IMPLANT DESIGNER, WHICH IS JUST IQLET PROBLEMS
 
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why am i coping? one implant result which absolutely demolishes ANY filler result is linoob @lin00b on tiktok, ive known him for a long time and spoken to him about his hardmax many times, he only got full custom peek implants and softmax and ascended from ltn > htn+

giant result below btw jfl :feelsuhh:

giant result below
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His result is good, not bad but not amazing. it definitely doesnt demolish any filler result especially when accounting for the uncannyness. His infraorbital implants are too rectangular and anyone with a trained eye could spot he had work done. Plus these photos are somewhat frauded, i have other photos of him unfrauded that portray the plastic look he obtained. Thats not to say implants are bad but on average they have a high revision rate and tend to look more artificial



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His result is good, not bad but not amazing. it definitely doesnt demolish any filler result especially when accounting for the uncannyness. His infraorbital implants are too rectangular and anyone with a trained eye could spot he had work done. Plus these photos are somewhat frauded, i have other photos of him unfrauded that portray the plastic look he obtained. Thats not to say implants are bad but on average they have a high revision rate and tend to look more artificial



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imo his result surpasses bgm who looks uncanny, hes a black dude with european face :forcedsmile:


first guys gonion filler looks so bad but his result is probably near/slightly above/below first guys results. also i think the square infras look natural on him (just my opinion)
 
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His result is good, not bad but not amazing. it definitely doesnt demolish any filler result especially when accounting for the uncannyness. His infraorbital implants are too rectangular and anyone with a trained eye could spot he had work done. Plus these photos are somewhat frauded, i have other photos of him unfrauded that portray the plastic look he obtained. Thats not to say implants are bad but on average they have a high revision rate and tend to look more artificial



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First guy went from some random ltn to a low chad holy fucking shit
 
stop giving advice man, you have no idea what ur talking about

first of all fillers rarely migrate if done properly, been abusing for 2 years no migration. Literally look at anyone on this forum who uses filler, theres no cases of migration whatsoever. yes they dissapear but luckily you can refill them (retard) 2nd of all implants are not easy to get right, revisions are INCREDIBLY common. I had to bail on my implants cause the result was mediocre and looked less natural compared to filler

also cage at recommending giant, who made someone look like this
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He mogs hard
 
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stop giving advice man, you have no idea what ur talking about

first of all fillers rarely migrate if done properly, been abusing for 2 years no migration. Literally look at anyone on this forum who uses filler, theres no cases of migration whatsoever. yes they dissapear but luckily you can refill them (retard) 2nd of all implants are not easy to get right, revisions are INCREDIBLY common. I had to bail on my implants cause the result was mediocre and looked less natural compared to filler

also cage at recommending giant, who made someone look like this
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That wasn’t a standard Giant case. The design was dictated by extreme non-negotiables, making giant an order taker rather than the designer, so using it as a representative example is misleading and something the uninformed do - cherry picking sub-optimal or early cases is classic negativity bias.

The “unfrauded” photos of me you’re referencing were taken during recovery, before edema, soft-tissue remodeling and fat redistribution had finalized, so they’re not representative of my current state at all.

The conclusions you’ve drawn are completely understandable for someone outside the loop.
 
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But filler lasts all of a few fucking months and thats if you're lucky. In my country it's a very popular procedure for women of all ages and they ALL have filler face, it migrates like fuck, how are you supposed to keep anything viscous from behaving like a liquid?? (you cant). Cope cope cope. Implants or DEATH.
 

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