Is it actually over am I gonna die alone

he really wants to prevent u roping im dead, hair part is true though wtf even is that shit LOL
bro what do u suggest? i got a cut a few days ago tho it looks better now
 
No its not retard jfl

Main issue is his fucking face stop lying to people, you’re going to point him in the wrong direction
brother wdym? dude his clavicles are short man, besides the face, what he can focus on without money? working out will do most of the work.. i just pointed what it could be rewarded and changeable
 

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brother wdym? dude his clavicles are short man, besides the face, what he can focus on without money? working out will do most of the work.. i just pointed what it could be rewarded and changeable
If you’re assuming that he doesnt have any sort of wealth to fund his ascension, then he’s just unfixable.

Should unironically rope lmao gym isnt saving his face
 
brother wdym? dude his clavicles are short man, besides the face, what he can focus on without money? working out will do most of the work.. i just pointed what it could be rewarded and changeable
anyway to grow my clavicles or is it over in that regard? is it still possible to build good physique
 
No its not retard jfl

Main issue is his fucking face stop lying to people, you’re going to point him in the wrong direction
Never underestimate frame/gym maxxing bro.

He will definitely benefit from going to the gym.
 
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puberty is over ik it can still change but nothing significant. how bad is the frame bro :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: i knew it was bad but is it really THAT bad (u said shocking so im assuming u mean sub 3). with training is it possible to get it average?
i assume working out can change it, but i don't know at what point may it be ideal, i just see the contrast that it's narrow, just cherry pick the tips at the end, i just trynna help with my perception
 
@5moreyears 60k is the highest itd ever go and its only if u want the best of the best, do you really want the best of the fucking best nigga?

Chin filler can cost 10k if i wanted to go to fucking harvard and get that shit done retard :lul:

On average its not costly AT ALL, and if it is for you its kinda over
 
Never underestimate frame/gym maxxing bro.

He will definitely benefit from going to the gym.
The battle of the greys that have no fucking idea what they’re talking abt JFL
 
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anyway to grow my clavicles or is it over in that regard? is it still possible to build good physique
you can build your physique anyways, it's just the structure that may make you lack on the aesthetic global perception, also your overall dimorphism gets more fucked if you have them like that
 
bro what do u suggest? i got a cut a few days ago tho it looks better now
it looks like ur back length doesnt match ur front since ur front is comically short in length

if you got a cut a few days ago dont go back to that fucker again lmfao
 
@5moreyears 60k is the highest itd ever go and its only if u want the best of the best, do you really want the best of the fucking best nigga?

Chin filler can cost 10k if i wanted to go to fucking harvard and get that shit done retard :lul:

On average its not costly AT ALL, and if it is for you its kinda over
hopefully i can afford it by age 30 at most but idk if i want to do really invasive surgeries like that i might do eye surgeries first to see if that ascends me to average (if im not there already) if it does ill prolly stop there ngl
 
it looks like ur back length doesnt match ur front since ur front is comically short in length

if you got a cut a few days ago dont go back to that fucker again lmfao
no i meant these photos are before i got the cut. what cut should i get bro like a mod cut?
 
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crine at this fucking cope, at most 20k? where LOL

also this nut is 15
and why would i be coping about this?

what would be the benefit, in general 40k (if hes a greedy jew and wants the best of the fucking best) in the US not even out the country, its really not that much. To fix his life and face?

Regardless its around 8k-15k outside of country in Turkey. Again, not costly at all
 
and why would i be coping about this?

what would be the benefit, in general 40k (if hes a greedy jew and wants the best of the fucking best) in the US not even out the country, its really not that much. To fix his life and face?

Regardless its around 8k-15k outside of country in Turkey. Again, not costly at all
do i have potential to be average without surgery or nah
 
hopefully i can afford it by age 30 at most but idk if i want to do really invasive surgeries like that i might do eye surgeries first to see if that ascends me to average (if im not there already) if it does ill prolly stop there ngl
Unfortunately if you’re not ready to do hardmaxxes like a lefort, you’re definitely hardstuck mltn.

thats the only chance you have for ascension unironically, other than simple softmaxxes
 
The battle of the greys that have no fucking idea what they’re talking abt JFL
yeah dude just give him some tips that may help in a span of 20 years instead, wtf, i MEAN, they still help nigga but ffs just say everything atp
 
do i have potential to be average without surgery or nah
im going to be honest, no.

Gym will really help you, softmaxxes such as grooming and skin. But you will be hardstuck below avg
 
Unfortunately if you’re not ready to do hardmaxxes like a lefort, you’re definitely hardstuck mltn.

thats the only chance you have for ascension unironically, other than simple softmaxxes
not even eye surgery can ascend me?
 
im going to be honest, no.

Gym will really help you, softmaxxes such as grooming and skin. But you will be hardstuck below avg
brutal guess ill get my money up
 
yeah dude just give him some tips that may help in a span of 20 years instead, wtf, i MEAN, they still help nigga but ffs just say everything atp
When someone asks for help with ascension, you point out their major flaws, and tell them how to fix them so they can fucking ascend.

Not just give them a bunch of cope and say “yeah bro!! Gym!!!!! Go to the gym rn you’ll ascend!!!!”

dont be retarded. Learn how to help others
 
Unfortunately if you’re not ready to do hardmaxxes like a lefort, you’re definitely hardstuck mltn.

thats the only chance you have for ascension unironically, other than simple softmaxxes
am i low ltn or mid ltn right now
 
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and why would i be coping about this?

what would be the benefit, in general 40k (if hes a greedy jew and wants the best of the fucking best) in the US not even out the country, its really not that much. To fix his life and face?

Regardless its around 8k-15k outside of country in Turkey. Again, not costly at all
no 15 yr old got the funds cuh

even if he got the lefort, his jaw still sucks so whats he gonna do then? dudes gonna be homeless

turkey for surgery JFLLLLL
 
not even eye surgery can ascend me?
ofc it will, but thats a hardmaxx. thats surgery.

a rhino will help ascend you, mouth widening as well, literally any surgery u can think of will ascend you. But you kinda just said ur good off surgeries
 
ur parents are supposed to fund these surgeries for u
my mom said she'll pay for my ptosis repair (doc said insurance will prolly cover after consulation tho) maybe i can convince to pay 30k out of pocket for lefort but realistcally that aint happening
 
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no 15 yr old got the funds cuh

even if he got the lefort, his jaw still sucks so whats he gonna do then? dudes gonna be homeless

turkey for surgery JFLLLLL
im 16 and im going to Turkey for a genio funded by my parents in a couple of months

“JFLLLLLL”
 
ofc it will, but thats a hardmaxx. thats surgery.

a rhino will help ascend you, mouth widening as well, literally any surgery u can think of will ascend you. But you kinda just said ur good off surgeries
i meant eye surgeries wont get me to average? mb worded badly. ill get lefort if needed
 
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my mom said she'll pay for my ptosis repair (doc said insurance will prolly cover after consulation tho) maybe i can convince to pay 30k out of pocket for lefort but realistcally that aint happening
Worth a try, biggest ascension you can get is with that surgery
 
im 16 and im going to Turkey for a genio funded by my parents in a couple of months

“JFLLLLLL”
lucky you, still a cheaper surgery btw especially cuz its in turkey so idk what ur tryna say kid
 
Parents are more blackpilled than i am lmao, they just want me to get any surgery i can to fix my face :lul:
my mom not even like against surgeries for me its just that she wont pay for smth she doesnt seem an issue. she said she would pay for ptosis repair and hair transplant cuz those are issues but not jaw cuz she thinks its normal
 
lucky you, still a cheaper surgery btw especially cuz its in turkey so idk what ur tryna say kid
dont think 8k-15k at turkey is a lot for a fucking lefort “kid” :lul:
 
When someone asks for help with ascension, you point out their major flaws, and tell them how to fix them so they can fucking ascend.

Not just give them a bunch of cope and say “yeah bro!! Gym!!!!! Go to the gym rn you’ll ascend!!!!”

dont be retarded. Learn how to help others
don't misunderstand, i just pointed out some mitigation for certain flaws, i know that his face is not on point at the end of the day but, i just tried to help on a easy way, of course if he had the money and he specified it, i would basically say more stuff, anyways i'm grey jfl i couldn't help anyways cuz i'm not that experienced with it
 
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