Is it even possible to change your personality/become more NT?

[Mongrelcel]

After you have become what you are? After all your formative and developmental phases are done?

I feel like a big part of being NT or socially skilled is just enjoying the social interactions. I don't - I think that many of us just don't. Conversation is just not "fun" for me. I don't have the desire to speak about myself, and to find out more about others.

Is the biggest difference between us and social chad the fact that he simply has lower standards for what he considers an enjoyable social interaction?
By that I mean that he's able to enjoy even boring conversations.

Because not all NT people are funny - not by a long shot. When I remember back, I was one of the funniest guys around, it was always something I said or did that got people laughing, unlike some normies that almost never were able to make a good joke.

To me, trying to come up with things to say is just hard, it's difficult and it takes a lot of energy. Can that ever change?
They say that extroverts gain energy from social interactions, and introverts lose it.
Being an introvert is basically a death sentence for a man - you will never be able to go through all the steps necessary, and even if you do, what are you going to do with the woman? You need to talk to her lmao
(I have no idea how the fuck can a couple spend entire days together, the fuck do they talk about)

I feel like you can only improve your ability to converse, but it will be very mechanical, very analytical, it will require a lot of conscious thought and therefore will be very taxing to keep up.

(Most of what I'm talking about is the conversation itself, since that's the essence, the other part of being NT is being able to read the room and a bunch of other smaller and much more easily attainable things)

@Syobevoli @AlexAP

 

[Mongrelcel]

I feel like normies have this urge to just fucking say things

And I don't - maybe it's because I've been conditioned that what I think doesn't matter, or I have much more negative experiences associated with speaking or I simply get less from the reward system in my brain from speaking

All "social skills advice" is pretty fucking worthless, because it all stems from they way your thoughts work, how they are formed, and in what way.

I found this out by taking drugs - many drugs had profound effects on my ability to carry a conversation, on weed or LSD I was reaching normie levels of being able to talk about nothing

So this leads me to a conclusion that the brain needs to be strongly changed to be able to have normal conversations

 

[Looks234]

Spoiler

Subliminals

 

[BearBoy]

Yes but depends on the things you do that change you

 

[Mongrelcel]

Yes but depends on the things you do that change you

Elab?

 

[khvirgin]

I feel like normies have this urge to just fucking say things

And I don't - maybe it's because I've been conditioned that what I think doesn't matter, or I have much more negative experiences associated with speaking or I simply get less from the reward system in my brain from speaking

instead of having the natural urge to say things I have the mechanic urge to say things
something like "I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING HERE, IT'S MY TIME " or "THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO X PLACE, IF I DON'T TALK I WILL BE LEFT BEHIND "

overthinking natural things

 

[BearBoy]

Elab?

For example anxiety, you can have anxiety if you dont go outside

but when you start going outside and doing more stuff you become changed so does your personality, from introverted to extroverted

 

[Deleted member 4106]

After you have become what you are? After all your formative and developmental phases are done?

I feel like a big part of being NT or socially skilled is just enjoying the social interactions. I don't - I think that many of us just don't. Conversation is just not "fun" for me. I don't have the desire to speak about myself, and to find out more about others.

Is the biggest difference between us and social chad the fact that he simply has lower standards for what he considers an enjoyable social interaction?
By that I mean that he's able to enjoy even boring conversations.

Because not all NT people are funny - not by a long shot. When I remember back, I was one of the funniest guys around, it was always something I said or did that got people laughing, unlike some normies that almost never were able to make a good joke.

To me, trying to come up with things to say is just hard, it's difficult and it takes a lot of energy. Can that ever change?
They say that extroverts gain energy from social interactions, and introverts lose it.
Being an introvert is basically a death sentence for a man - you will never be able to go through all the steps necessary, and even if you do, what are you going to do with the woman? You need to talk to her lmao
(I have no idea how the fuck can a couple spend entire days together, the fuck do they talk about)

I feel like you can only improve your ability to converse, but it will be very mechanical, very analytical, it will require a lot of conscious thought and therefore will be very taxing to keep up.

(Most of what I'm talking about is the conversation itself, since that's the essence, the other part of being NT is being able to read the room and a bunch of other smaller and much more easily attainable things)

@Syobevoli @AlexAP

Do you really want a tip to be more NT? stop creating such big texts, jfl if you think someone read it all

 

[Mongrelcel]

instead of having the natural urge to say things I have the mechanic urge to say things
something like "I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING HERE, IT'S MY TIME " or "THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO X PLACE, IF I DON'T TALK I WILL BE LEFT BEHIND "

overthinking natural things

That's one of the things I didn't touch up on in my post, that having classic social anxiety (exactly what you're describing) will simply "use up" the "resources in your brain"

It's just a retarded theory, but if you're intensely thinking about how you need to say something, you aren't actually engaged in the conversation, you're not thinking about the actual topic at hand.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

After you have become what you are? After all your formative and developmental phases are done?

I feel like a big part of being NT or socially skilled is just enjoying the social interactions. I don't - I think that many of us just don't. Conversation is just not "fun" for me. I don't have the desire to speak about myself, and to find out more about others.

Is the biggest difference between us and social chad the fact that he simply has lower standards for what he considers an enjoyable social interaction?
By that I mean that he's able to enjoy even boring conversations.

Because not all NT people are funny - not by a long shot. When I remember back, I was one of the funniest guys around, it was always something I said or did that got people laughing, unlike some normies that almost never were able to make a good joke.

To me, trying to come up with things to say is just hard, it's difficult and it takes a lot of energy. Can that ever change?
They say that extroverts gain energy from social interactions, and introverts lose it.
Being an introvert is basically a death sentence for a man - you will never be able to go through all the steps necessary, and even if you do, what are you going to do with the woman? You need to talk to her lmao
(I have no idea how the fuck can a couple spend entire days together, the fuck do they talk about)

I feel like you can only improve your ability to converse, but it will be very mechanical, very analytical, it will require a lot of conscious thought and therefore will be very taxing to keep up.

(Most of what I'm talking about is the conversation itself, since that's the essence, the other part of being NT is being able to read the room and a bunch of other smaller and much more easily attainable things)

@Syobevoli @AlexAP

Yes, it is possible.
Social skill is like a muscle, the more you use it, the better you get and get used to it.
For example, I had better social skills when I was at school since I had to interact with other people,
In short, interact socially, and you'll get better with time.
It's a simple tip, but it's the most useful.

 

[Mongrelcel]

For example anxiety, you can have anxiety if you dont go outside

but when you start going outside and doing more stuff you become changed so does your personality, from introverted to extroverted

Anxiety is one thing, but I'm talking about the fact that I have nothing to say even in super low pressure situations. I can't even think up of jokes, or things to say even when I'm alone.

This has more to do with the way my brain works, rather than being anxious (I do have some degree of anxiety too ofc)

 

[Deleted member 275]

Is it possible? I think so.

Is it easy? No I think it's incredibly hard. It would take daily conscious effort and major lifestyle change.

Much harder than say, fixing your diet and going to the gym regularly.

 

[AlexAP]

It's possible in the sense that it's possible to be an alcohol addict from 15 to 30 and then quit alcohol forever. But it is as difficult.

I think in the first years it will feel very hard, but after 2-3 years it will become normal to be able to hold a conversation. It's a skill that has to be trained. But as someone who was non-NT it will always feel a little bit forced, like you were acting. Just like for former alcohol addicts it will be always a battle to not touch alcohol. However, the rewards are worth it in the end.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

i want to have sex with somebodys mother and then see boy whos mother i fucked and brag to him like i would show him his naked mother

 

[micropenis29]

NT = lower intelligence

it's possible to be giga autistic and giga social, if that's what you're getting at

 

[Carolus]

Tbh I used to overthink a lot and still do sometimes, like what am I gonna say now, is it my turn, trying to plan a conversation beforehand on what to say. Now I just say fuck it, think of the first thing to say to kick off the conversation and then I roll with it. Nothing planned and I go in to it with blank-mind confidence(like it's not gonna matter what I'm gonna say)

Just the other day I thought of one opening line to talk to a girl at work and we ended up talking for 30-40 minutes straight about a lot of stuff. Was great

 

[TITUS]

You have to become the mogger in body and soul.

 

[Deleted member 3583]

you get high and that puts u in same sort of neurochemical profile that normies are in naturally. and then u realise that everything normies do and say is natural and easy, they aren’t even trying

 

[ivan.kuk]

you get high and that puts u in same sort of neurochemical profile that normies are in naturally. and then u realise that everything normies do and say is natural and easy, they aren’t even trying

fuck